VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[Satou Pendragon]

anyone have save file and complete scene?

Yes, I'd guess nearly everyone here who's playing it.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

anyone have save file and complete scene?

There's a walkthrough for all current content, and Ctrl-skipping is a wonderful feature available in Ren'Py. If you don't care anything at all about the current story, it won't take you very long to get all existing content and make a save for yourself.

 

[Dorfnutter]

You're thinking too literally, though, as an "exploit" meaning something specifically technology- / computer-related. What I'm saying is that there's too much blurring of the lines to rule certain things out. The cube technology that suddenly makes an NPC mindlessly follow commands would, under a normal gaming view, be considered a "hack" or "exploit". And yet, it's been demonstrated at least twice already to "bend" things to a user's will. So for all the vehemence you use trying to argue against things I've said, you seem conveniently to ignore things like this.

Cube "tech" is something that's based on "existing Eternum 'tech'" as per Linus' words, so it counts as a magical artifact (or more accurately, a copy of one), and not truly tech (hence why I'm ignoring it). Also, can you really count it as an exploit when the ability to use it exists in the normal game (see: Caly's prison) and that the reason the Praetorians are having a fit about it is not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but because it threatens to upend the VRMMO's masquerade?

Pretending that there's no possible way anyone could take advantage of a weakness in the system — again, I'm not saying this is a VRMMO or anything similar, and I'm not saying (anymore) that Jerry himself does this — seems to me to be ignoring information we already know.

That's not what I was arguing tho? I was arguing that Eternum is a supernatural plane of existence so you can't manipulate its very nature using code or tech (otherwise The Founder would be god already). Granted, you can use science to do shit like mass-producing Xenomorphs and the like, but as the mysterious guy at the Ulysses party said that's just basically people using tech on tech rather than the kind of godlike stuff you can do using devtools or hacking if it was an actual game.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I said what I said because Eternum isn't a VRMMO and that Jerry doesn't have the same abilities that Orion has at the moment. And before you bring up Nova's "hacking" of Ogygia as proof that Eternum itself can be manipulated via tech (and thus vulnerable to "exploits"), there's a running theory that Idriel basically assisted Nova in that endeavor but made it look like the latter was the one who did it, likely to prevent the Founder from tracing the assist back to the former.

You just not did my Wife that Dirty like that do you ? how dare you Downplay Nova abilities

 

[Dorfnutter]

You just not did my Wife that Dirty like that do you ? how dare you Downplay Nova abilities
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I mean if Idriel really has some form of foresight/prescience then it tracks that she knows where Orion and his group were REALLY going (which is why I think she smirked at him before sending him off), hence why she would give them a helping hand (especially since she's the one making the portal system possible). The Praetorians and the mercs being sent there are basically just a formality at that point.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

Cube "tech" is something that's based on "existing Eternum 'tech'" as per Linus' words, so it counts as a magical artifact (or more accurately, a copy of one), and not truly tech (hence why I'm ignoring it). Also, can you really count it as an exploit when the ability to use it exists in the normal game (see: Caly's prison) and that the reason the Praetorians are having a fit about it is not because it gives players an "unfair advantage" but because it threatens to upend the VRMMO's masquerade?

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That's not what I was arguing tho? I was arguing that Eternum is a supernatural plane of existence so you can't manipulate its very nature using code or tech (otherwise The Founder would be god already). Granted, you can use science to do shit like mass-producing Xenomorphs and the like, but as the mysterious guy at the Ulysses party said that's just basically people using tech on tech rather than the kind of godlike stuff you can do using devtools or hacking if it was an actual game.

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[AVNplayer69]

I mean if Idriel really has some form of foresight/prescience then it tracks that she knows where Orion and his group were REALLY going (which is why I think she smirked at him before sending him off), hence why she would give them a helping hand (especially since she's the one making the portal system possible). The Praetorians and the mercs being sent there are basically just a formality at that point.

She's not the one making the portal system possible or operational. It was the founder who kept it in place and Idriel doesn't have any control over it, also why Calypso or anybody for that matter can access Hyril'ar with the portal system cuz that's just another mechanic in the game "Eternum" that the founder made. Also Idriel wouldn't know where Mc is if he's taking the fast route, by which he could probably even traverse to Hyril'ar in the next update after all he's been there now
Edit : also Idriel said she couldn't do anything and she's powerless in the real world. So if she could actually control the whole thing she could do much more... That is unless she didn't want to help Orion...

 

[HanzoGruber]

Annie has a family who likely wants her home for the holidays. Her sneak is possibly her making a video call to Orion and the Carters while she's back in the UK for the time being.

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Nova has a family so can't really see how she could join the trip. Same with Luna. Alex is disowned so there's really no issue to her getting dragged to the trip (other than possibly her muttering "Bah! Humbug!" on their way to the ski resort).

Then again, Cari could be lying with these sneaks again and that everyone is actually there, just like how he omitted Orion in this particular sneak...

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...when he's actually part of the shot in the actual update.

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I have family too, but never really celebrate Christmas. I am an atheist. My family accepts it. I also live 10000km away from my family so I rarely visit them anyway (about the same distance US to europe, I am from Germany but live in China now).

I hve very good relations with my family but you wont see me celebrating any religious holiday or its perverted nowaday versions of it (christmas was 150 years ago really diferent) . I am the kind of guy who gives spontanious presents out not on some fixed day ^^

To make it short, it is not necessarily plausible to travel to the UK for some holiday, the travel time is aroiund 9 to 12 hours depending on where Kredon is supposed to be located. it isnt worth the money and time .

 

[JigglyPal]

I am the kind of guy who gives spontanious presents out not on some fixed day ^^

Based spontaneous gift giver. I've always found that to be way more genuine than giving out perfunctory gifts on predetermined and largely arbitrary occasions.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

I have family too, but never really celebrate Christmas. I am an atheist. My family accepts it. I also live 10000km away from my family so I rarely visit them anyway (about the same distance US to europe, I am from Germany but live in China now).

I hve very good relations with my family but you wont see me celebrating any religious holiday or its perverted nowaday versions of it (christmas was 150 years ago really diferent) . I am the kind of guy who gives spontanious presents out not on some fixed day ^^

To make it short, it is not necessarily plausible to travel to the UK for some holiday, the travel time is aroiund 9 to 12 hours depending on where Kredon is supposed to be located. it isnt worth the money and time .

Ofc, it sounds like you're assuming she'd only be going for a day or two (maybe even the weekend). Typically in the United States, if you're going to travel internationally for a holiday like Christmas, you would plan at least one or two weeks away. (I even do that myself when flying from Denver to Portland, which obviously is not even international travel.) That would be between 5 and 12 days outside of travel, and so absolutely worth it, especially if you buy the tickets way ahead of time, when the prices will tend to be much lower. (That's assuming you've got good relations with your family, ofc, but if not why would you travel in the first place?)

 

[technicalownage1]

Does Caribdis still get chubbb when making the animated seggs scenes?? or is he a man of business??

 

[Dorfnutter]

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[Dorfnutter]

She's not the one making the portal system possible or operational. It was the founder who kept it in place and Idriel doesn't have any control over it, also why Calypso or anybody for that matter can access Hyril'ar with the portal system cuz that's just another mechanic in the game "Eternum" that the founder made. Also Idriel wouldn't know where Mc is if he's taking the fast route, by which he could probably even traverse to Hyril'ar in the next update after all he's been there now
Edit : also Idriel said she couldn't do anything and she's powerless in the real world. So if she could actually control the whole thing she could do much more... That is unless she didn't want to help Orion...

The idea is based on the theory that Idriel is Anima or used to be Anima. We know from Calypso's tale that Anima is essentially a more powerful version of her, so it would track that while the Founder may be the one who came up with the idea for exit portals, she's the one actually making said portal tech in Eternum possible. Not to mention her responsibilities in the Nexus (sending people on their way to various servers) are basically the same as to how Orion used Calypso prior to her rant in 0.6: being a glorified portal opener.

Also, Idriel is powerless because she is chained, yes. But that didn't stop her from creating the Weapons of Atlas (which the Founder said was her doing) nor is it stopping her from appearing to Orion every now and then. This implies that even when chained, she DOES have a little bit of freedom, so it wouldn't surprise me if she was the real reason as to how the group managed to get their way to Ogygia.

I have family too, but never really celebrate Christmas. I am an atheist. My family accepts it. I also live 10000km away from my family so I rarely visit them anyway (about the same distance US to europe, I am from Germany but live in China now).

I hve very good relations with my family but you wont see me celebrating any religious holiday or its perverted nowaday versions of it (christmas was 150 years ago really diferent) . I am the kind of guy who gives spontanious presents out not on some fixed day ^^

To make it short, it is not necessarily plausible to travel to the UK for some holiday, the travel time is aroiund 9 to 12 hours depending on where Kredon is supposed to be located. it isnt worth the money and time .

Well you and Annie are not the same person so I don't really know why you would bring that up. Also, if Orion was able to go to the UK to visit his folks during the timeskip period between the end of 0.5 and the beginning of 0.6, then why can't Annie?

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Penny's scene with the Lambo was in 0.7.

No, Annie came with MC for the study-abroad opportunity. Her father was alive at least at the time they left; we see a flashback of MC telling him he'll take care of her like his sister.

So one update absence instead of two. Too long, I say!

I think I remember now. That´s why she´s on the train with Orion and Chang when the game starts, right? She´s also came with Orion to Kredon.

If a character is presented to have the ability to jump across many realities, it is not unreasonable to assume that said character will likely jump into the real world in the future. It's basically a Chekov's Gun that a lot of people have been waiting to fire since her abilities were revealed.

Idk if it´s unreasonable, I never thought of that possibility. Sure she has that ability but it´s inside Eternum, where all those realities are a part of, so it makes sense that she can do that inside the game she´s an NPC of. It´s another to leave the actual game and come to our world.
Yet, the game is going in a direction where Eternum is leaking into the real world, so maybe that´s not that crazy.

 

[-CookieMonster666-]

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Meh. I'm not convinced really, especially because you're inferring but saying it's implied. Implication is only known by the creator; everyone else is making an inference. It's an important distinction, because you can see one thing in the grains of sand while I see something entirely different. Both of those can vary greatly from what Caribdis intended.

But as you say, agree to disagree, although I would say that for more than just the definition. I'm gonna leave this here, because I never intended to get hardcore into super-secret-research-manual-level detail on game theory or whatnot. I expressed my view, and you say I'm wrong. Cool. No more discussion needed. I don't mean this as anything against you, but for me personally delving this heavily into this stuff makes me feel like I'm wasting my time. Heavy-duty fan theorizing online has never really been my thing.

 

[ReoNa_MK]

If only I didn't hate honey select so much I could give this a shot.

 

[JustinStrife]

If only I didn't hate honey select so much I could give this a shot.

you're missing out. It's one of my favorite VN's.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Nearly a year since last update... Shame it seems abandoned, it was a decent game

/dev posts sneak peeks a few days ago and continues to reiterate that he plans to release before the end of the year

/gets accused of abandoning the game

 

[The Senior Perv]

If only I didn't hate honey select so much I could give this a shot.

You're missing quite a lot of amazing AVNs. But hey, you do you. Can't like every adult game/visual novel.

Nearly a year since last update... Shame it seems abandoned, it was a decent game

Yeah, it sucks Caribdis doesn't do weekly updates or one one update per month at the longest, with +50 lewd scenes each release. More time than that means the dev either abandoning the game or just milking. Sure, he makes monthly wallpapers (one SFW and another NSFW), also does monthly devlogs with sneak pics... but no, it must be just a way to scam his patreons. That sleazy bastard.

 

[Leinad_Sevla]

Everyone is falling for the troll again...