VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[khn8p7]

Add emotional weight: Eternum isn't that kind of story. This is mainly a comedy adventure romance. Not a drama.

So was OIALT, but Cari still did a Stabby Mike's death fakeout. And I agree with the sentiment that we ALL know none of the LIs' death will be permanent, but I totally wouldn't put it past Caribdis to do it. And tbf, it could just as likely be Chang who's gonna get clipped, but because Caribdis already fake-killed the "best friend" character in his previous game, I suspect he'll step it up this time. It's all speculation of course, but I doubt THIS is the reason why he WOULDN'T do it.

Motivate Orion: Motivation, with rare exceptions, should come naturally from the story, not artificially from a character death. Also, Orion needs no more motivation.

I think a shift in motivation from Orion's altruistic drive to help the Eternum NPC and uncover Ulysses' wrongdoing, to a more personal one like rescuing/avenging/finding a way to bring an LI back to life doesn't necessarily make it any less "natural" in terms of narrative. If anything, the conflict between personal and moral has already been teased during our meeting with the Founder during the dinner party with Alex, when he asked us if we were willing to sacrifice innocent lives to protect our loved ones. I think if Caribdis were to go ahead with the LIs' death fakeout, that one moment would be the biggest foreshadowing we have.

Granted, the struggle between personal and moral choices doesn't necessarily have to come in the form of an LI's death, maybe they're trapped and we have to sacrifice some NPCs to rescue them, or MAYBE, their "death" (or the NPCs' "death") will be determined by how we answered the Founder's question at the party, and then towards the end of the game we'll (hopefully) have the option to bring back whoever was dead.

I'm just saying, there are ways to incorporate a character's death into the story without it being unnatural, especially after we have received such significant foreshadowing already.

 

[daddymeneer]

impregnate them all!!! even the ones that are not in the harem, spread that seed MC!!!

 

[JoeTheMC84]

It was over 600,000.

Yeah, fair, I went back and checked and it does say 600,000. The first time I played I missed the part after the "Six..." the lady says in the news report.

But the bulk of my point is true:

So only dying in Eternum or being forcefully disconnected results in deaths, but exit portals are safe. The problem is getting that information to people in Eternum before they die there thinking they would be fine (and getting info to people outside Eternum to keep anyone from disconnecting them).

Meaning the people, "Trapped in Eternum," (as it says in the lower part of the new feed) are only "trapped" in the sense of getting the news to them since there could be people in isolated areas or servers or in "low tech" servers were information isn't able to travel as fast. So, like in the fantasy server there could be people off in a cave fighting goblins and they have no idea that if a goblin kills them they will die, so they are "trapped" in that sense.

So, with all that said, my main point stands that the girls should be fine. They are all strong and together, if they were even logged in when it went down, and so I doubt that anything bad would happen to any of them.

 

[ZeroLux1234]

question the art style is Honey Select 2

 

[JoeTheMC84]

question the art style is Honey Select 2

Answer: Yes

Edit:
Slightly Longer Answer: Yes, but the dev also does a bunch of work on it with mods and other programs and it's just HS2 standard.

 

[Khayon]

question the art style is Honey Select 2

Yes

 

[GamingSavant]

Yeah, fair, I went back and checked and it does say 600,000. The first time I played I missed the part after the "Six..." the lady says in the news report.

But the bulk of my point is true: View attachment 5613162 View attachment 5613163

So only dying in Eternum or being forcefully disconnected results in deaths, but exit portals are safe. The problem is getting that information to people in Eternum before they die there thinking they would be fine (and getting info to people outside Eternum to keep anyone from disconnecting them).

Meaning the people, "Trapped in Eternum," (as it says in the lower part of the new feed) are only "trapped" in the sense of getting the news to them since there could be people in isolated areas or servers or in "low tech" servers were information isn't able to travel as fast. So, like in the fantasy server there could be people off in a cave fighting goblins and they have no idea that if a goblin kills them they will die, so they are "trapped" in that sense.

So, with all that said, my main point stands that the girls should be fine. They are all strong and together, if they were even logged in when it went down, and so I doubt that anything bad would happen to any of them.

There's also no other reports coming from what's going on INSIDE Eternum right now besides people being trapped. It's a very real chance that Ulysses, and specifically the Founder, is enacting in an exterminatus plan to force out the endgame. Here's where it gets interesting though: What happens for people like Thanatos who already died in the real world? It might be the actual link they need to kill him.

EDIT: The other thing that might be happening is the "realities" of both Eternum and the normal world are merging, as the means to bridge that gap had been to use a VR headset so far, while they are now potentially in a situation where that gap is being severed and Eternum is becoming "real" for the normal world.

 

[weadwave]

Any news regarding how long the next update will take or approximate release month?

The only thing we know is that the next update (0.10) will be much shorter than 0.9. It's also worth noting that there were some issues with the music during the development of 0.9, which also slowed down development. On average, update development took about six months. Therefore, I think 0.10 will be released in the summer, either early or late.
0.1 (Sep 4, 2021) → 0.2 (Dec 24, 2021): 111 days
0.2 (Dec 24, 2021) → 0.3 (May 5, 2022): 132 days
0.3 (May 5, 2022) → 0.4 (Sep 3, 2022): 121 days
0.4 (Sep 3, 2022) → 0.5 (February 14, 2023): 164 days
0.5 (February 14, 2023) → 0.6 (August 22, 2023): 189 days
0.6 (August 22, 2023) → 0.7 (Apr 16, 2024): 238 days
0.7 (Apr 16, 2024) 2024) → 0.8 (January 14, 2025): 273 days
0.8 (January 14, 2025) → 0.9 (January 21, 2026): 372 days

 

[bobdaniels]

So only dying in Eternum or being forcefully disconnected results in deaths, but exit portals are safe. The problem is getting that information to people in Eternum before they die there thinking they would be fine (and getting info to people outside Eternum to keep anyone from disconnecting them).

Meaning the people, "Trapped in Eternum," (as it says in the lower part of the new feed) are only "trapped" in the sense of getting the news to them since there could be people in isolated areas or servers or in "low tech" servers were information isn't able to travel as fast. So, like in the fantasy server there could be people off in a cave fighting goblins and they have no idea that if a goblin kills them they will die, so they are "trapped" in that sense.

So, with all that said, my main point stands that the girls should be fine. They are all strong and together, if they were even logged in when it went down, and so I doubt that anything bad would happen to any of them.

Guys, who do we know that constantly dies in Eternum and just completed his redemption arc...

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[duckydoodoo]

idk why anyone is worried about LIs dying in eternum, MC will just use hit Huntsmand powers and pull a Neo inside the matrix, bringing em back to life so they can grab a phone portal. oh crap, i just now realized this game is like a Japanese move interpretation of an american sci-fi novel. take a decent american fiction and make it pretty. shit no, my brain wont stop, agent smith is thanatos, idriel is the oracle, ulysses is the architect and stabby mike, stabby mike is,... morpheus. my world is now shattered. imma go to bed i think im stoned.

 

[fromcsabi]

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Does Caribdis has Nova avatar picture? Nice, It is confirmed, Nova is protected

I really like this part because it shows us potential endings for the story.
A) Sacrifice the ones you love for power, bad ending (Orion King of Eternum without LI)
B) Sacrifice the ones you love to save others, bad ending (presumably this is what leads to the timeline reset by Orion if Idriel dialogue in the Elf Jail about him "finding a way to return" is a hint to what happened in most previous instances)
C) Don't sacrifice the ones you love to save others, bad ending (presumably this is another reset by Idriel because she wants freedom)
D) Don't sacrifice the ones you love and somehow save others, presumably cannon good ending

How did you come up with the D option from that? If there is a "save everyone" option there is no dilemma.

 

[ashencone]

Haven't finished playing through 0.9 yet, but I have to explain, Cari has successfully cemented his spot as the best AVN writer in my book, period.

Here's the one detail that touched me the most. Since the very first episode, there were the hearts screen, with 7 girls, and an Others section.


It stayed like this for all 8 updates, while all of Calypso's scenes went into the Others folder, signifying their relation is different from others. Finally in 0.9 after this scene-

Spoiler: THE SCENE

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There's a heartbeat, and I was surprised as to whose heartbeat was that, cause Calypso was not even in the list. So I clicked on the heart and-
Signifying the change in their relationship.

That's such a subtle way of storytelling with game mechanics, it's just... perfect.

 

[SweatyDevil]

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Well, the only moment I was aware of Dev receiving actual death threats was when DPC allowed one of the LIs to die in Acting Lessons.
So... Could it be that some of the LI's might die for episode or two until Orion learn a way to bring her back? Or will Cari create the illusion that they are dead, but they will be only trapped in Eternum? Oh, goodness, I’m not looking forward to this at all.

 

[weadwave]

Where did this theory about someone dying even come from? We have Calypso on our team. Remember how she revived Orion after he was shot in the back and lost a lot of blood.

 

[e6mill]

We have Calypso on our team.

Do we? Can we get back there RN? It also kinda seemed like she might have her hands full for a bit yet here.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Where did this theory about someone dying even come from?

Speculation based on what dev said a long while back...



...which he keeps repeating even in the present.

 

[weadwave]

It's actually sad that we're facing such a plot twist =(

 

[DroneZone]

Speculation based on what dev said a long while back...

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...which he keeps repeating even in the present.

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Cari has basically said prior to every update so far 'There's no cliffhanger this time, for real' and of course each time he slugs us with a cliffhanger. Now he's specifically hyping the 0.10 cliffhanger. He could do the funniest thing ever and just.... not do a cliffhanger

 

[Dorfnutter]

Cari has basically said prior to every update so far 'There's no cliffhanger this time, for real' and of course each time he slugs us with a cliffhanger. Now he's specifically hyping the 0.10 cliffhanger. He could do the funniest thing ever and just.... not do a cliffhanger

He could...or do what he did with the 0.8 cliffhanger and move it to a different update.


(^comment was from the release of 0.7)

 

[avnlovr]

Speculation based on what dev said a long while back...

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...which he keeps repeating even in the present.

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I honestly think that something happening to the girls, even as a cliffhanger and even being temporary, would be a bit disappointing. Of course, Cari could find a way to make it work, but it's very easy for something like that to feel like the writer is just trying to throw a crazy cliffhanger out there to keep the engagement high.