VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[diegoBigdih]

I'm unfamiliar with updating these games, could someone tell me how you would go about it? Does it have to a a full download of the new version and then transferring save files over or something?

if you are in PC save transfer it's automatic. Just download the new version and unzip it

 

[FuckMe1234567890]

Anybody have any guesses on what the scenes in the next update will be? I feel like I normally know who will be featured.

-Nancy is the only guaranteed one I can think of.
-Maybe Annie or Nova since they were skipped in the previous one?
-Orion has a meeting with Axel, so maybe Alex...though she's gotten a bunch in a row already, so maybe not. (But she's tied for my favorite, so I wouldn't be mad at all if she got another)
-No idea on who the fourth would be, if we assume both Annie and Nova get separate scenes. And one of them will probably be a threesome if following the current trend.

Annie and Luna threesome was hinted 3000 times already, I hope 0.10 will have it finally. And I wouldn't be so sure about Nancy, my theory about cliffhangers and cryptic Caribdis messages is that someone from girls will have some kind of ulterior motive. Nancy is my prime suspect. It would explain why she doesn't age (you know, if she is NPC or some shit). Also it would be reason why she is helping Orion - maybe she actually doesn't.

Of course, it could be nothing like that and more like "OMG I need to save them from certaint death" or something. In that scenario I think we would get Calypso scene (because she would be only person who is powerfull enough to help us, so we need to have arc with her, and arc = sex scene). Also, she is yet to be penetrated.

 

[AVNplayer69]

And I wouldn't be so sure about Nancy, my theory about cliffhangers and cryptic Caribdis messages is that someone from girls will have some kind of ulterior motive. Nancy is my prime suspect. It would explain why she doesn't age (you know, if she is NPC or some shit). Also it would be reason why she is helping Orion

 

[FuckMe1234567890]

I mean, she even works for Founder

 

[diegoBigdih]

Caribdis, bring back Stabby Mike for 0.10 pls

 

[Dorfnutter]

I mean, she even works for Founder

No she doesn't? Her lab got acquired by Ulysses, yes, but she doesn't answer directly to the Founder.

 

[AVNplayer69]

I mean, she even works for Founder

Sure man.... Nancy is an NPC, she's Founder's puppet, Dalia and Penny are just her holographic projections, Annie and Chang are just Orion's imaginary friends and Orion is Schizophrenic

 

[Idle-Fool]

Probably a dumb question since there doesn't seem to be but is there any way to skip/choose episodes? I got very far in the past but lost access to my old laptop/saves and now I have to start over. I'm limited on time and sadly can't really play the whole thing again so I just thought I'd check. I'd appreciate any reply whatever the answer is. Cheers.

Get the walkthrough mod (or just the walkthrough page), click all 3 skip options in "Preferences," and skip through the game how you want. It'll take an hour or less to do everything, and less to get where you were.

OR you can search and download a save file of the last update you played that'll get you around to where you were.

 

[Kensai13]

So this is the first time I've played this one. I really like what I see so far but I'm having a problem with the game crashing to desktop after around 10 minutes of playtime. I've forced changed renderers and about everything else I can think of. I get this message in Windows Events:

Faulting application name: Eternum.exe, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x66dfb641
Faulting module name: libpython3.9.dll, version: 3.9.10150.1013, time stamp: 0x66c9812e
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x000000000011989f
Faulting process id: 0x15384
Faulting application start time: 0x1DC8494495E3756
Faulting application path: C:\games\Eternum-0.9.2-pc\Eternum-0.9.2-pc\Eternum.exe
Faulting module path: C:\games\Eternum-0.9.2-pc\Eternum-0.9.2-pc\lib\py3-windows-x86_64\libpython3.9.dll
Report Id: 626561e0-cbb1-4bfe-8a97-ebe13bac9786
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

 

[FuckMe1234567890]

Sure man.... Nancy is an NPC, she's Founder's puppet, Dalia and Penny are just her holographic projections, Annie and Chang are just Orion's imaginary friends and Orion is Schizophrenic

I never wrote that (other that Nancy being NPC). I just said, that broadly speaking, cliffhanger doesn't need to be somebody dying, it can be betrayal too. No need to be sarcastic.

No she doesn't? Her lab got acquired by Ulysses, yes, but she doesn't answer directly to the Founder.

So, if I work for Meta and my superior is some rando from Bangladesh, Zuck can't give me orders? Don't think that works in real life bro. Also, this super important guy is getting in to her lab every week - seems to me that there could be connection to Founder.

 

[gino.pilotino]

I never wrote that (other that Nancy being NPC). I just said, that broadly speaking, cliffhanger doesn't need to be somebody dying, it can be betrayal too. No need to be sarcastic.

So, following your theory and knowing that NPCs are the souls of the dead trapped in Eternum, it's not clear to me how Nancy can disconnect from Eternum and return to Earth.
Furthermore, another thing is not clear to me: if Nancy is an NPC, then she is already dead. The necrophilia tag is missing here.

 

[Dorfnutter]

So, if I work for Meta and my superior is some rando from Bangladesh, Zuck can't give me orders? Don't think that works in real life bro. Also, this super important guy is getting in to her lab every week - seems to me that there could be connection to Founder.

If the Founder gave two shits about his company, sure. Board made it pretty clear in 0.4 tho that he doesn't really run the real world operations of the company and it's mainly William who is running the whole show.

Also read the "super important guy's" dialogue back in 0.5. It's heavily implied that he is answering directly to William, who in turn is planning some sort of hostile takeover from the Founder. Goes to show how lacking the Founder's influence is in the company, much less respect.

 

[frankiemustwait]

why does incest full mode become disabled everytime i start the game from a save and i have to reenable when i start the game?

 

[I'm Canadian bub]

why does incest full mode become disabled everytime i start the game from a save and i have to reenable when i start the game?

Incest isn't a part of the actual game, and the modder for the incest mod clearly jumped through some hoops in coding to make it work. Ergo, the mod doesn't work as smoothly as you'd like

 

[SK1LAR]

why does incest full mode become disabled everytime i start the game from a save and i have to reenable when i start the game?

Because it isn't an incest game?

 

[quorkboy]

In general I agree that cliffhangers are overused in serialised fiction. I often equate them to either lazy/inferior writing, or lack of confidence from someone on the development team in the story alone being enough to make people return for the continuation—this applies mainly to season finale cliffhangers where the main story of the season as a whole is complete, but they set up the next season with a short introduction followed by a cliffhanger to hook you into the next storyline. Though in season cliffhangers can be as awkwardly constructed.

Good stories don't need cliffhangers to hold attention and bring people back for more. But they can work to build suspense, if plotted well so that it's uncertain how they will resolve, if the story has already built up sustained interest. I can find them satisfying if I would have continued to watch or read without them. And they don't need to be, and often the best ones aren't, about putting someone in danger.

Eternum's cliffhangers don't seem contrived to me. At least not more so than any other aspect. The story is full of common character archetypes and mythology. That's not by itself a bad thing. So was The Matrix, and that film worked. As does Eternum. The cliffhangers don't feel like they are supposed to be keeping your attention so you come back for the next installment. They don't even feel much like cliffhangers when you play the whole thing. I can't recall at which update I started, but it was not the beginning, maybe 0.3 or 0.4, and it felt seamless until the end of the then current content. As it did again when I replayed later after deciding I wanted to change my decision about the Founder's amulet, which I think I did when 0.7 was released. Someone wrote that Orion being shot could have been an important plot point within an episode. And that's how it plays to me if I view the story as a whole.

 

[FuckMe1234567890]

So, following your theory and knowing that NPCs are the souls of the dead trapped in Eternum, it's not clear to me how Nancy can disconnect from Eternum and return to Earth.
Furthermore, another thing is not clear to me: if Nancy is an NPC, then she is already dead. The necrophilia tag is missing here.

That's easy actually - maybe she has same abilities as Orion. She seems overpowered just as him - leader of biggest empire in eternum in few weeks? Never aging? And, we don't know for sure what Calypso is exactly - so, maybe not all NPCs are dead humans.

 

[leagle]

That's easy actually - maybe she has same abilities as Orion. She seems overpowered just as him - leader of biggest empire in eternum in few weeks? Never aging? And, we don't know for sure what Calypso is exactly - so, maybe not all NPCs are dead humans.

Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate, you are putting too much unnecessary or groundless assumptions. Focus back to the story, your theory did not have enough evidence to support.
(Sorry for my bad English, I'm not native English speaker.)

 

[avnlovr]

The point is that Orion "dying" did not need to be a cliffhanger; rather, it could have been an extremely important plot point in the overall arc of the episode. I appreciate the cliffhangers that aren't as predictable. In this example, we felt 99% sure Orion wouldn't die. It blunts the edge of the cliffhanger.

As a contrast, the end of 0.8 in Hyril'ar was a better cliffhanger. We get a sense that Calypso is out of commission, at least for a while. Are we sure she'll make it? Again, 99% sure the answer is yes, so that's not it. The cliffhanger here has more mystery: we are in Hyril'ar, we know the elves don't like humans, we probably we will not be treated well, but what exactly does that look like? What the heck is even happening in Hyril'ar? What shenanigans might we get involved in? What might we learn about Anima or others? We're confident we'll need Calypso or some other method to get us back to realms / servers in in Eternum, but how long will we be stuck there? Will Calypso be able to help us get back in the episode, or might we have to wait longer?

By comparison to Orion "dying", there are many more questions and much less certainty.

my exact thoughts

 

[Zegion101]

In general I agree that cliffhangers are overused in serialised fiction. I often equate them to either lazy/inferior writing, or lack of confidence from someone on the development team in the story alone being enough to make people return for the continuation—this applies mainly to season finale cliffhangers where the main story of the season as a whole is complete, but they set up the next season with a short introduction followed by a cliffhanger to hook you into the next storyline. Though in season cliffhangers can be as awkwardly constructed.

Good stories don't need cliffhangers to hold attention and bring people back for more. But they can work to build suspense, if plotted well so that it's uncertain how they will resolve, if the story has already built up sustained interest. I can find them satisfying if I would have continued to watch or read without them. And they don't need to be, and often the best ones aren't, about putting someone in danger.

Eternum's cliffhangers don't seem contrived to me. At least not more so than any other aspect. The story is full of common character archetypes and mythology. That's not by itself a bad thing. So was The Matrix, and that film worked. As does Eternum. The cliffhangers don't feel like they are supposed to be keeping your attention so you come back for the next installment. They don't even feel much like cliffhangers when you play the whole thing. I can't recall at which update I started, but it was not the beginning, maybe 0.3 or 0.4, and it felt seamless until the end of the then current content. As it did again when I replayed later after deciding I wanted to change my decision about the Founder's amulet, which I think I did when 0.7 was released. Someone wrote that Orion being shot could have been an important plot point within an episode. And that's how it plays to me if I view the story as a whole.

I think the same regarding cliffhangers, never really thought too much about them. This game is mostly linear with one true path and will ultimately gonna be played in one go for complete story, the end of updates are mostly just more recognisable break points as it is in development