Explain this fetish: Man to female transformation

[itshowyoumetme]

First off, this thread isn't meant to kink shame and what not, it's just one (of many) niche fetishes that I just don't understand. And given that we see games based around that theme, especially text based ones, popping up every so often, I thought I'd ask what people got out of it. Usually porn games tries to sell you a fantasy, you're irresistible, you're able to break taboos, bend people to your will and what have you.

But what is the fantasy meant to be here?
Is the fantasy meant that you're supposed to identify as the character you're playing and getting off on 'you' being un-manned or are you not supposed to self-insert? Is this a gay fetish, transgender fetish, or are straight people into it as well?

I'm curious what the target audience is.

 

[edgedy]

Well, not my kink either but I can at least see the appeal mid transformation. You're essentially a futa so you can sleep with girls as well. The full fledged one though where guy > girl to sleep with other guys seems to be a 100% trans fetish.

 

[Deleted member 54063]

It's called transitioning not transforming. Transgender isn't a fetish, it's an identity. Transgender and cross-dressing are not exclusive to gay people, there are many motivations - some non-sexual - behind both.

Just because someone transitions from one gender to another, doesn't mean they're doing it to be with people of their original gender. A man can transition to a woman (because they identify as a woman), but still be solely attracted to women.

Google & Wikipedia are very helpful information/education resources.
Transgender:

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Cross-dressing:

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As for why there are games on the subjects. It's a part of life, so why not. It doesn't need any more complicated reasons or justifications to exist. The target, could be transgender, gay or straight people. But it could be a healthy tool for those questioning their identity or orientation.

While it's not my thing, I still like to see content being created for everyone.

(I'm not an authority on either subject, so again, hit up Wikipedia or Google).

 

[itshowyoumetme]

It's called transitioning not transforming. Transgender isn't a fetish, it's an identity. Transgender and cross-dressing are not exclusive to gay people, there are many motivations - some non-sexual - behind both..

ehrm, I think you're mixing things up. I'm not talking about transitioning/transgender people, I'm talking about a literal fetish regarding transformation, often from male to female and often against the game characters will.

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<- a website largely dedicated to games about it, where the t definitely stands for transformation. Now, these might be aimed primarily at crossdressers or transgender people, I don't know, which is why I asked since I got curious

 

[edgedy]

Yeah I didn't mean to compare transgender to a fetish, I was thinking more like pact with a witch in terms of the gameplay genre. Where the transformation is done against the wishes of the candidate.

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[itshowyoumetme]

Yeah I didn't mean to compare transgender to a fetish, I was thinking more like pact with a witch in terms of the gameplay genre. Where the transformation is done against the wishes of the candidate.

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Yeah, and even with that game, it seems more like a "what if my friend became a hot chick" - fantasy, which from a straight man point of view I can kinda get, it's more when the player character himself gets transformed, especially against his will and starts having sex with men (again often against the character's will) that confuse me. It seems like it often go along with the 'bimbofication' fetish so yeah, got a bit curious who those games are aimed at.

 

[baneini]

In some cases its just an irrelevant box that was ticked because the game is being released on tfgames site. The story would be exactly the same if you started as a woman.
From game progression pov you can have an ambiguous "female" who is inexperienced and reluctant to have sex who you can then corrupt. Like incest it sets the scene for the game quickly and you dont need to build up a plausible scenario with a normal female.
It also might have to do with the ease of writing the character. If the character is mentally a man it might be easier for the guy writing the game to come up with the scenarios and dialogue.

 

[Deleted member 54063]

Your use of the term "transgender" and "gay" limited how I read the question. Misunderstanding, sorry.

Transforming is a much broader fantasy. As you'll even see on the TF site, it encompasses many things, like shrinking, changing into a robot, etc. Involuntary transitioning is just one part of it.

I don't personally get the fantasy of being forced to transition, and then having sexy with those of my original gender.

 

[baka]

in manga and even a couple of hmanga games, theres this transformation, the MC wakes up as a girl, and what happens now? the MC is curious about "his" new body, and start to explore the feminine side and the effects of hormones and slowly start to get turned on by the masculine population.

thats the usual plot. it could be, but mostly its not a gay-thing, i believe its just a way to explore "what if".
i think most of us have during our childhood thought about what if, we where born as a girl, or how would it be to have a girls body for a moment, and not to have sex with a dude, but just to see how it is.

im not into this fetish, but i could say that to a number of different fetish not just this in particular.

 

[Someguy01]

Short answer, people are fucked up and like fucked up things.

 

[89tasker]

There are two types of people who play these games,
1) someone who identifies as the character
2) someone who plays the character as an avatar.

People in category one are homosexual. They may be be bi-curious, or in denial, but they want to experience having sex with their own gender. In the case of M > F, they are definitely gay; there is no spectrum. That door only swings one way.

People in category two just one to see the world burn. Or in this case, want to see a fucked up story and character.

 

[IhaveNoPornAndIMustFap]

It's Trannies. Autogynephilia.

 

[anne O'nymous]

But what is the fantasy meant to be here?

There's a simple answer : Everybody have, at least one time, thought something like, "what if I was a [opposite sex]". Well, the question is part of answered by these games.
For some it's a real fetish, but I'm sure that most player do it because of this question, because of this curiosity we all have had at least once.

 

[n0b0dy]

The only transformation game I have played is Perverted Education and I mostly liked it. The game is about a dude who gets transformed to a woman by his teacher/psychologist against his will. The exiting thing for me was the humiliation of being slowly transformed into a woman, unable to do anything about it. So for me the central 'fetish' was humiliation, the transformation was more of a tool to create this.

I had never read a story with such a plot before so it was also nice to read something new and refreshing.

 

[xןʞ]

Fetish aside, someone explain to me how transformation games cornered the market on html sourced games.

Kind of like how russian shit corned QSP(which I kind of assumed was because QSP was specifically some russian shit since I had never heard of it before coming here.)

 

[gunderson]

It seems like we've still only half-answered the OP's question. Yes, there's a nice way to talk about the genre: people have fantasies about their friends turning into hot chicks, it's a space to explore gay fantasies or transformation fantasies, etc.

What confuses me is why there's such a popular trend of having really nasty rape and genital mutilation scenes in transformation porn games. Is that what people want to see? Are they...okay? Like, they might literally not be okay. Now, I'm sure some players skim the parts that aren't their fetish (like people who like incest porn but don't give a shit if people are adopted or step-whatever), but a good number of players and definitely some authors seem really into the fantasy of forcibly castrating and then raping these non-consensually transgender men.

I'm sure there are players and authors who have personal stories about why this is specifically their thing, but I really don't get why the violent rape version of transformation games is such a popular genre of porn game.

 

[greyelf]

The game is about a dude who gets transformed to a woman by his teacher/psychologist against his will.

I believe you meant transformed into a sissy (the term used within the game itself), as there isn't any gender reassignment in that game (unless that was added recently).

Some of these games are written to allow the Developer to explore their own feelings about such a transformation or related subject matter, and has enabled / lead some of those Developers to changed genders themselves. The fact that players can also participate in the experience / journey is an added bonus.

 

[n0b0dy]

I believe you meant transformed into a sissy (the term used within the game itself), as there isn't any gender reassignment in that game (unless that was added recently).

You are right, sissy would have been the proper term to use.

What confuses me is why there's such a popular trend of having really nasty rape and genital mutilation scenes in transformation porn games. Is that what people want to see? Are they...okay? Like, they might literally not be okay.

Please try to understand different people like different things an be not to quick to judge or shame people. Some of us get off on torture and rape and there is nothing wrong with that. (As long as it is fictionalized of course :happyblush)

 

[wep]

I saw the title of the thread and I must admit that I was scared to open it XD. Instead most of the posts are respectful and interesting.
Kudos

 

[gunderson]

What confuses me is why there's such a popular trend of having really nasty rape and genital mutilation scenes in transformation porn games. Is that what people want to see? Are they...okay? Like, they might literally not be okay.

Please try to understand different people like different things an be not to quick to judge or shame people. Some of us get off on torture and rape and there is nothing wrong with that. (As long as it is fictionalized of course :happyblush)

I don't think you can speak for everybody's relationship to their fetishes. Considering how common rape and torture are in the real world, I would imagine that for some it stays in the realm of fiction only because they haven't yet had the opportunity to make it real in a way that they feel is safe for them. On the other hand, I'm sure there are some who can compartmentalize their fetishes perfectly fine. If you're in the latter group, that's wonderful.

But my guess is that this stuff is also popular among those who do actually want to hurt real people, and that worries me. I don't advocate censorship or shaming people for what they like, because I don't think that solves the problem, but the popularity of the genre itself is my concern for this reason.