RPGM Completed Explorers of the Abyss [v1.01] [Flying Panjandrum / Kagura Games]

[Count_Chocula]

I got no problem with a good story, but the RPG element seems so completely redundant and pointless to focus on. I take back my point about other JRPGs having better story because all these H-RPGs got going for them is the H and the story to go along with it.

What I'm meaning to say is, I always find the "game" element to be a damn chore in these things. They are so basic and shallow 95% of the time. I realize a great few got some pretty unique and sexy mechanics that makes it sort of worth it but even most games with a "horny" meter or some crap like that is incredibly superficial and the game element obviously only servers as a time-waster to make the customer think he got his money's worth.

In reality, if you compressed most of these game to its story and porn, which is the main reason ppl play these games lets be honest, then its over in 1-2 hours. This is why I much prefer Eroge VN over RPGM/Wolf games because the whole game is story and porn, exactly what people want and pay for. But guess what? it takes an enormous amount of effort and time to create even a decent Eroge. Premade shitty vanilla RPGM mechanics? Not so much.

They should focus on what customers play these games for instead of trying to make us waste our time in order to hide how little content they actually put in the game. If you don't realize you are getting played by these companies/creators, then you are a sheep.

A few notable exceptions, that I think these companies should look after are Melty's quest and the Acerola games. In these games, the RPG elements are suppressed or innovative enough to make the gameplay unique. Aside from the massive amount of H-content to make up for its mechanics, the story takes the front seat and you don't feel like you wasting your time playing the mechanics when you got H-content at every corner. The RPG element simply complements the game, and that is how it should be in my opinion.

I couldn’t agree more. I just played gran ende 3 and I was enjoying it, but there was about 2-3 hours of quality but 8-10 hours total after padding it with fetch quests. Same with the kamichichi games (and a lot of others tbh). H game developers should be striving to make good H games first. When they try to make good general games with H elements, both facets tend to fall flat. I have a feeling that’s how this game will be if I play it.

 

[Grayking666]

I like H-games where you have alot of choices in how slutty or pure your characters get and at least 3 heroines for flavor.

I remember trying this game and was bored because it's just to spaced out with it's H content.

 

[Ferghus]

I got no problem with a good story, but the RPG element seems so completely redundant and pointless to focus on. I take back my point about other JRPGs having better story because all these H-RPGs got going for them is the H and the story to go along with it.

What I'm meaning to say is, I always find the "game" element to be a damn chore in these things. They are so basic and shallow 95% of the time. I realize a great few got some pretty unique and sexy mechanics that makes it sort of worth it but even most games with a "horny" meter or some crap like that is incredibly superficial and the game element obviously only servers as a time-waster to make the customer think he got his money's worth.

In reality, if you compressed most of these game to its story and porn, which is the main reason ppl play these games lets be honest, then its over in 1-2 hours. This is why I much prefer Eroge VN over RPGM/Wolf games because the whole game is story and porn, exactly what people want and pay for. But guess what? it takes an enormous amount of effort and time to create even a decent Eroge. Premade shitty vanilla RPGM mechanics? Not so much.

They should focus on what customers play these games for instead of trying to make us waste our time in order to hide how little content they actually put in the game. If you don't realize you are getting played by these companies/creators, then you are a sheep.

A few notable exceptions, that I think these companies should look after are Melty's quest and the Acerola games. In these games, the RPG elements are suppressed or innovative enough to make the gameplay unique. Aside from the massive amount of H-content to make up for its mechanics, the story takes the front seat and you don't feel like you wasting your time playing the mechanics when you got H-content at every corner. The RPG element simply complements the game, and that is how it should be in my opinion.

Hold up, have you tried the game or are you just making assumptions? Like I agree that most of these adult RPGM games suck, but I've only been seeing communism memes on this thread. I have no reason to think the RPG element is at odds with the story the game is trying to tell. As for "what people want and pay for" is that not a JRPG? Like if people didn't want these things, why are so many of these things?

 

[pancolle]

This is not a F95 thread without the redundant e unrelated banter about topics unrelated to the game in question. Stay Classy Guys.

BTW, how big is this game?

 

[turkler]

This is not a F95 thread without the redundant e unrelated banter about topics unrelated to the game in question. Stay Classy Guys.

BTW, how big is this game?

the staple stone of f95, ey? the game's one and a half gigs fyi.

I got no problem with a good story, but the RPG element seems so completely redundant and pointless to focus on. I take back my point about other JRPGs having better story because all these H-RPGs got going for them is the H and the story to go along with it.

fair

What I'm meaning to say is, I always find the "game" element to be a damn chore in these things. They are so basic and shallow 95% of the time. I realize a great few got some pretty unique and sexy mechanics that makes it sort of worth it but even most games with a "horny" meter or some crap like that is incredibly superficial and the game element obviously only servers as a time-waster to make the customer think he got his money's worth.

fair to some degree. I don't think most devs out there want their games to drag on, that's not how you build a sustainable business. I think this is due to the fact that most developers, after getting a few decent porn games out, would like to expand from there. just making more of the same thing isn't sustainable after all, there's only so many ways someone can get fucked. from there, they either severely underestimate how hard it is to make a proper game. a game with minimal story-telling and gameplay, solely focused on the porn, is considerably easier to produce than a proper game.

or

they pad out the content too much. now, padding by itself is not bad and if done well you won't notice it's padding. you know how in the recent gta series, when you're driving in a mission there's usually a few minutes where the characters just chat with each other? that's precisely it. they don't need to animate those, they don't need to (in most cases) make anything new, they already have a backstory written of the characters and they simply expand on that. you don't notice it, because it's good. of course, there's also the bad side of this, like (how you mentioned) in rpgmaker games where you're constantly getting encounters left and right to artifically incerase the playtime. this might be malicious or not, but the result is the same.

This is why I much prefer Eroge VN over RPGM/Wolf games because the whole game is story and porn, exactly what people want and pay for. But guess what? it takes an enormous amount of effort and time to create even a decent Eroge. Premade shitty vanilla RPGM mechanics? Not so much.

the bar of entry on rpgmaker games are extremely low, and even I could pop in and start making my own rpgmaker porn game. I'm fairly certain that's less malicious design and more general incompetence from the developers.

They should focus on what customers play these games for instead of trying to make us waste our time in order to hide how little content they actually put in the game.

fair

 

[c.o.w]

They should focus on what customers play these games for instead of trying to make us waste our time in order to hide how little content they actually put in the game. If you don't realize you are getting played by these companies/creators, then you are a sheep.

a game with porn just like rance or any other alicesoft game?

 

[BorsDeGanis]

Spoiler: Chill bruh

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Anyone else find it cringe when devs try to fill your head with their political beliefs in such a bullheaded and unoriginal way?

 

[RedRob]

What I'm meaning to say is, I always find the "game" element to be a damn chore in these things. They are so basic and shallow 95% of the time. I realize a great few got some pretty unique and sexy mechanics that makes it sort of worth it but even most games with a "horny" meter or some crap like that is incredibly superficial and the game element obviously only servers as a time-waster to make the customer think he got his money's worth.

Honestly, I would prefer those games over this one. Regardless of one's opinion on how well basic RPGM mechanics mix with making a porn game, there's still some visible sign of effort of trying to make an h-game in those. For example, Raiouger basically has you wasting time with doing RPGM battles in a giant mech to pass ingame days, so the player can see the FMC gets harassed and fucked by the town people, gradually turning her into a slut.

There's padding, but there's also actual h-scenes with some overarching narrative to them, even if said narrative is just, "This same person fucks the girl multiple times over several days, making her more of a slut."

And that's probably how you could describe a fair amount of RPGM games here, h-games with a decent amount of padding.

But Explorers feels like the reverse of that. It feels more like someone made a basic RPGM game with some slightly unique mechanics so it's not immediately indistinguishable from the rest, but then tacked on some h-scenes as an afterthought for marketability.

I stopped at some point around the 3rd floor, and then looked at the full save page or two back, (said save isn't full though. There's like 2 or 3 scenes missing for each girl) but it seems like most h-scenes are accessed through taking jobs from the whiteboard in the tavern. There's no exploration or trying to find sidequests, it's all right there. That combined with how most of the scenes seem to be standalone, and they really seem less like an actual part of the game, and more just there so the game can claim it's an h-game for extra sales.

In short, I feel this game is even worse than those kind of games at being an h-game.

 

[D306el]

their Futa/trans ? i dont like Futa/trans

 

[GothSummer]

Where is Jericho's buddy?

 

[rojoracing53]

Where is Jericho's buddy?

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[g147369]

Where can I switch languages?
Although I see language files in the folder
But I can't find the setting to switch language

 

[xue]

full save,enjoy it

cool, didnt feel like running the same dungeons and heading back just to look for CG.

 

[xue]

I like H-games where you have alot of choices in how slutty or pure your characters get and at least 3 heroines for flavor.

I remember trying this game and was bored because it's just to spaced out with it's H content.

yeah, this game was just pretty much straight foward, kinda boring.

 

[asdqwegertgr]

is there a recollection room somewhere?

 

[Fakecrash]

 

[CandyNite]

any mega

 

[hp_surfer]

Who do I talk to to make the key mold? I accidently skipped the dialogue.

Guy in the Tavern

 

[LEET]

Another issue is the inconsistent boob size and the fact that triggers can be missed easily.

 

[Fakeuser002]

How are you supposed to camp? The ration item is greyed out...