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Nah, man, Julia owns that smaller bust. She’s still somehow sexier than Emma.Cup size
In looking across Pineapple Express and Exploring the Big Apple, another thing that bothers me is in regard to the character development of the FMC (Julia and Emma), specifically, their willingness to do things with other men that they were not willing to do with their partner. In both PE and ETBA, the FMC allows a man from outside of their relationship to have anal sex with them when they were not willing to do this with their partner. This makes little sense from the standpoint of fairness and wanting to please one's partner, but it also makes little practical sense, as the men who they gave their anal virginity to are noted as having a larger penis than their partner has. Also, in PE in particular, Julia is described as not having been very enthusiastic about giving her partner blowjobs, yet she is very enthusiastic about giving Cornell blowjobs.
I'm guessing the story-consistent answer for why this happens is supposed to be that these other men bring behaviors out of them which their partners did not. Besides not making sense from a fairness and practical perspective, however, their choice to be selective in displaying certain behaviors to where their partner is excluded would undoubtedly affect the excitement of their partner in bed. What I mean is that if they're less energetic about performing certain behaviors with their partner (such as giving a blowjob) or are less willing to be sexually adventurous or try new things with their partner (such as anal sex), then this without a doubt would affect the sexual excitement that their partner would experience, which in the moment and over time could result in their partner not being as passionate in bed as they otherwise would be.
Beyond that, in both games the MC and FMC do not have a discussion about if anything is off limits in sharing with others. Without discussion or hesitation, the FMC allows another man/other men to cum inside of her, have anal sex with her, and engage in double penetration with her. So although the FMC may make it out to be like she's willing to do things with other men to fulfill her partner's kink, her primary focus clearly seems to shift from wanting to please her partner to wanting to please another man/other men (and of course herself).
I'm guessing the story-consistent answer for why this happens is supposed to be that these other men bring behaviors out of them which their partners did not. Besides not making sense from a fairness and practical perspective, however, their choice to be selective in displaying certain behaviors to where their partner is excluded would undoubtedly affect the excitement of their partner in bed. What I mean is that if they're less energetic about performing certain behaviors with their partner (such as giving a blowjob) or are less willing to be sexually adventurous or try new things with their partner (such as anal sex), then this without a doubt would affect the sexual excitement that their partner would experience, which in the moment and over time could result in their partner not being as passionate in bed as they otherwise would be.
Beyond that, in both games the MC and FMC do not have a discussion about if anything is off limits in sharing with others. Without discussion or hesitation, the FMC allows another man/other men to cum inside of her, have anal sex with her, and engage in double penetration with her. So although the FMC may make it out to be like she's willing to do things with other men to fulfill her partner's kink, her primary focus clearly seems to shift from wanting to please her partner to wanting to please another man/other men (and of course herself).
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Pineapple Express has grown on me over time, despite some initial and continuing reservations. I initially deleted it from my computer after my first time playing it, but then I ended up downloading it again and keeping it. In thinking about it now, I did the same thing with Exploring the Big Apple. Generally speaking, I also have had to warm up somewhat to NTR-focused AVNs, in part by learning to ignore or minimize some of the typical tropes/aspects that I tend to dislike.
I mentioned this a while back. I think the developer should take the 3wives from his last games and have them meet up for some fun time. They could introduce the other women to their bull. It could be a one off. No developing story no corruption just straight to the fun times
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All I can say is... you're reading too much into their behaviour. You're not incorrect in your assessments, mind you, but you're going deeper than you should.
These are NTR stories, and one of the hallmarks of NTR stories (or paths) is the FMC's debauchery rising to such a level that she is more sexually comfortable with her "bull" than she ever was with her original partner, the MC. It dabbles into the "cuckolding" and humiliation aspect of true NTR, where the woman is happier and more satisfied with the antagonist who "stole" her, so it would make sense that the FMC is more willing to indulge the bull's sexual tastes (like the aforementioned anal & creampie sex).
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I have to say that PE unfortunately gave away a lot of potential, even though I still really like it. I miss some scenes like in the shower in Cornell's bedroom. The development between MC and Cornell's sister had more potential. MC saved pictures of her on his cell phone, after that the story with her was almost over. Then the pregnancy path. To this day, nobody knows who the child is from? I would have liked to have seen how it developed.
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haha to bad im an assman so I rarely care about boob size unless it's to damn big like in some AVN's . Very rarely a women makes me perfer their breast but it does happen once in awhile.Cup size
I get what you're saying and understand that this is part of the history/common themes of the NTR genre, but does it necessarily have to be that way? Can't a female partner crave having sex with another guy because it's a different or novel experience rather than an altogether better or more satisfying experience? We all like some variety sometimes to keep things interesting and thus sometimes will seek out new experiences, which does not amount to seeking one thing that's better than the previous thing; sometimes people just crave something different.
Also, if the female partner feels more willing to perform certain sex acts with another man when it's something that her significant other desired to do but was denied, then it would seem like either it's time for a conversation about why she's denying her loving partner this experience (and ideally figure out what can be done to share this experience with him) or it's time to let her partner have the experience he's being denied with another woman. Otherwise, it comes off as being selfish and insensitive in relation to her partner's desires.
Speaking of the humiliation aspect of NTR, this is the main reason why I have had difficulty warming up to the genre. If I were to have some kind of arrangement with my female partner like that, I would try to take care not to say things that might make her feel as if I want another woman more than her or that she's inferior to some other woman in some way, and I would expect her to try to do the same (and of course maintain open communication). However, I know that not everyone feels the way I do, so I'm just expressing my opinion/personal preference when it comes to imagining myself to some extent as the FMC's partner.
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What you are speaking of, is NTS or Sharing. And it sounds like NTR is not your jam - which is fine.
But NTR inherently invokes negative emotions, and deals with such "darker" topics (like inferiority complex).
NTR (Cuckold) is like a very bitter tea. And those who enjoy this genre savor that bitterness. All the things you mentioned are part of that bitter taste. If you remove them all, it's just bland hot water.
Discomfort, unpleasantness, sometimes even anger, heart-wrenching jealousy, and at the same time, intense sexual desire. The stronger these conflicting emotions are, the better the NTR.
im a boob man but i HATE how in these parts that's assumed to be "more = better", no i hate cow/cartoon boobs it's about shape mostly.
And Emma has fantastic boob shape
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honestly both is great on her tho I find my self to perfer the sex scenes that show off her ass or her face more. I actually think her face is my favorite feature of her appereanceim a boob man but i HATE how in these parts that's assumed to be "more = better", no i hate cow/cartoon boobs it's about shape mostly.
And Emma has fantastic boob shape
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Hear, Hear!im a boob man but i HATE how in these parts that's assumed to be "more = better", no i hate cow/cartoon boobs it's about shape mostly.
And Emma has fantastic boob shape
I hate oversized boobs and overblown proportions. Give me a realistic (but still a supermodel) chick any day of the week over some inflatable doll.
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I play NTR to see FMC corruption. What you are saying is Netorase theme, but most Western NTR games is more into cuck/humiliation than a loving netorase play. Though I play netorase less as it has less corruption factor but if presented right (like any other genre
) it's can become good.I read a story in literotica where hubby wanted to share his wife, who slowly became to enjoy it more and has sex with her crush or something few times but hubby said he isn't comfortable with him so she stopped but while in a threesome the crush comes and in a passion or lust filled mind she started indulging him. So when hubby comes and sees this he got angry and sad that he lost his wife and instead of wanking just went away. Wife notices this, pushes all others out in the middle of sex and runs after hubby in all tears and they had a sweet make up sex in the corridor or something. So yeah as even a corruption fan this type of story also intrigues me.
To me Dimajio333 games FMC needs less push/corruption than other NTR fmc. As his game/story is more about MMC slowly but surely getting into cucking willingly/unwillingly.
Few tropes in NTR:
- For some reason or other the couples seems to not to indulge in sex as often. The MMC is mostly prude, toooo much sweet to ask for sex as he thinks it pushes boundaries or something, he has a small dick or quick shot. Very oblivious or too trusting. Has a secret cuck fetish that even he didn't know.
- the FMC are a closet slut, supressed nymphomaniac, a hypocrite. Later learns to enjoy thrill of cheating, or for some mostly unknown reason loves to humiliate hubby.
- for some reason they don't talk the TALK (cause then NTR won't happen).
- there is no drama when break up happens. FMC and bull may humiliate him one final time that's it.
- FMC and bull will always end up in good/happy/successful endings. Where for some reason (because the anguish aspect of NTR I guess) the MMC will end up bad/unhappy/alone; he won't be able to move on with life anyway.
What you mentioned is a clear weakness of Dimajio's, and it leads people to assume that he's making games based on his personal experiences. Many people assume that his MC is literally himself, and that he's making games based on his experiences with his partner on some level, with his fantasy added in.
That has its merits, so his characters are very realistic in the eyes of those who share similar experiences, and his stories are relatable, and both emotionally and psychologically detailed. I think the humiliation is 100% fantasy, his FMCs are also dimajio himself, and I don't think he has the sadistic tendencies to enjoy humiliating his partners. I think it's the same reason his FMCs are closet sluts, it's just for fantasy.
Dimajio isn't the best writer, he's actually a terrible fiction writer, the characters in his games are essentially all his Persona and he has obvious limitations in terms of creating different personalities, but I don't doubt that he's one of the best developers making AVNs, and I think he has a great talent for creating believable, realistic characters and strong stories.
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English isn't my 1st or 2nd language so I tend to not understands things here and there so forgive me but your post clearly confuses me. You say he/she is terrible fiction writer but is great at creating strong stories. What attracts me is his premises they are unique in some way. But the corruption and drama isn't that well implemented.
As far as I remember his first game "Sharing my Fiance" has humiliation in it. As I said to me it felt his stories are about creating a cuck out of the MMC when he decides to let his SO explore others. It's always the FMC who will push things more to MMC so she is fully liberated and he accepts things like a good cuck like most western NTR tries to show.
I liked the premise of "Pineapple Express" but felt that the mystery aspect isn't done well and all endings sucked. Liked how it shows netorase play in the bull route of "Lost in Paradise" where MMC's frnd and his wife clearly loves each other and share and talk to each other in every time; but the in the cuck route the FMC starts things of own, manipulate/sneaks without consulting him before. I thought there would be drama as how in bull route how a NTS couple behaves is shown and cuck route it's different but alas the game ends with some typical cuck endings.
Like in this game FMC always decides things first tells him later even in the share route.
And in the cuck route she gets disappointed if he didn't agree to her condition of cock blocking him.
And the ultimate reason for it is not because he will enjoy it but so she can use his heightened arousal to continue her shenanigans. If he had a post nut clarity he may object.
If he agrees to cock blocking we see that it's really for her wish fulfillment.
And she clearly is into humiliating him.
Even reluctantly agrees to give him a pity fuck.
And it's not just pity fuck but actually needed release after getting so turned on by Matthew and he was just there to fulfill it.
In the final scene (if it's a full cuck route there is no choice but in other route there is a choice) we see she clearly would have cheated if someone didn't knock on the door. As far as I remember like many instances Patrick didn't give permission for it and she clearly taking advantage of his kink.
AVNs are generally comparable to low-budget, home-made amateur films in the movie industry. So, if you start evaluating them at the level of mainstream, they completely fall apart.
People might think that the process involves first creating a story, then acquiring the necessary assets for that story, rendering with tools, refining the dialogue and visuals, and then coding. However, in reality, the process often starts with planning a possible story based on the available assets, followed by detailed dialogue refinement, rendering, and coding. Also, if a scene takes longer to render or is more difficult than expected, the story may need to be revised. If good assets are acquired by chance, the story might change to utilize those assets.What was prepared for next month's plot might be abandoned because it turns out to be difficult, or something might be hastily added. Therefore, the story becomes ad hoc. This is an unavoidable fate due to the low budget. one of the reason I said he's a terrible fiction writer but the best AVN developer is because he crafts very decent stories within a limited budget and time, especially compared to other AVNs. The description of the delicate psychological flow of characters in specific situations feels very realistic from my experience. It doesn't feel like the absurd characters with brain-dead or their brains replaced by genitals, as in other games. It seems to reflect well the tendencies of people belonging to a specific demographic in Europe who have positive views on open relationships. It seems this is a demographic he belongs to or has frequently experienced.
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