RPGM Abandoned Faefire Fantasy [v0.1.2] [Dakodanova]

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bobdillan

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I know that you said that, I am saying that you are wrong. It's not more of an insult than a compliment. The sister's (true) statement that the MC's dick is big doesn't become an insult just because someone(or something) else also has a big dick. Especially when that 'someone' is A GIANT FANTASY ANIMAL. It shows a real fragile ego to interpret it in that way.

You may think you've addressed them, but nothing you've said has made 'a player feeling jealousy over a fictional girl fucking a bird instead of her brother who never told her he was into her' reasonable.
No, it's not out of my grasp. It just doesn't matter because there's a big difference between relating to a character and actually getting offended on their behalf over an 'insult' that exists wholly in your own head and not in the actual game. If you are at that point, you should step back and get a bit of perspective.
Ah I see, so you can grasp it you just refuse to and will only go with your own opinion and ideals... so it isn't ignorance just arrogance then.
 

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This is just my take (after reading the entire first page of 'fuck ntr why isn't it tagged ntr') but so far I'd say that it isn't NTR, the lack of MC sex scenes notwithstanding. While there likely will be more bestiality scenes into the future, it's much too early to tell because the game is literally v0.1. If it's something like v0.5 and it's just that, then go ahead and call it NTR. I'd see it that way too. But it's still just v0.1 and unless the creator of the game has a history of making NTR games then it's way too early to say "NTR game".

Also, it seems like the creator is making a system where you can choose to enable/disable content, based on the initial-release reactions. We'll see how it goes from there.
 
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Ragingrager

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Well on his subscribe star, he's taking content suggestions from backers. So if you want to request more MC content, now would be the time to do so if you're going to back the game.
 
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In the event that anyone cares. I'm gonna make just mention the scenes I found based on the 'tips'

After dealing with the first day's events and the game lets you freeroam. There's a white crystal, a blue crystal, and half a bed in the center of town. White crystal changes the time of day, Blue changes the day itself without changing the time of day, and the bed makes you go to bed and reset the day. I have high doubts this could trigger events as I've had more luck doing it the slow way by eating and sleeping than the fast way.

That said, I noticed the pot in the PC's room that denotes day number, not sure how this works/helps

1- (Sister)On random nights, the MC will wake up to a noise and you can choose in investigate it. Heading north, you'll see your sister giving one of the chocobos(Bronkbeaks) a blowjob.
On the next night, you can approach her while she's asleep and jerk off on her face.
The next night, go to bed and the game will ask if you wanna masturbate. Accept your fate and your sister will catch you jerking off. Repeat again for your sister to catch you jerking off, instead of running away with an apology, she'll meekly crawl up to your dick and get covered. End of the Sister route at the moment.
(Your sister will still blow the birds at nights)

2- (Captain)At night, you can talk to the captain in the bar; the game will point out the amount of beer she's consumed, this scene occurs when she is drunk. Ask to join her and she'll accept, leading you to escort her back to the barracks where she moons you, with her ass and pussy on display, you run away and she hesitantly thanks you for helping her home.
The next night, talk to her in the bar and ask to sit with her. This will lead to you fucking her over her desk back at the barracks. You can now just talk to her at the bar for this scene.

3- (The Mercenaries) On random nights, you can spy on the Dark Elf Futa titfucking the Gnoll next to the inn

4- (Guards) Some nights when walking to the pass, you'll see lady guard giving the shota guard a titjob by their post

5- (Bird Lady) Some nights (Presumably after your sister gets a face full of your cum), the bird lady will give one of the birds a BJ


In conclusion. I see a lot of voyeurism, beastiality, and a bit of shotacon, futa, and furry. Not really NTR when the girls involved are not in a relationship with the Player. The closest being your sister blowing the bird even after she watches you masturbate. NTR implies that you are in a relationship with the girls already and they are fucking other people or birds behind your back.
Isn't fucking working for me. Im on day 16 and the only lewd scene Ive seen was the waterfall one...

EDIT: Turns out sleeping in the half-bed does not advance the day...
 
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KingWeWuz

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v0.1.2
Removed broken dev tools mistakenly left at launch (crystals).
Dialogue options have been added for most/all current characters.
A New Scene! Check Liza's cabin on Tuesday mornings.

Not much content, maybe in a few updates. Also, if the creator sees this message, I'd encourage him to label content based on niche, something like saying voyeur/furry/One True Dick scene would go a long way.


I know that you said that, I am saying that you are wrong. It's not more of an insult than a compliment. The sister's (true) statement that the MC's dick is big doesn't become an insult just because someone(or something) else also has a big dick. Especially when that 'someone' is A GIANT FANTASY ANIMAL. It shows a real fragile ego to interpret it in that way.

You may think you've addressed them, but nothing you've said has made 'a player feeling jealousy over a fictional girl fucking a bird instead of her brother who never told her he was into her' reasonable.
No, it's not out of my grasp. It just doesn't matter because there's a big difference between relating to a character and actually getting offended on their behalf over an 'insult' that exists wholly in your own head and not in the actual game. If you are at that point, you should step back and get a bit of perspective.
Can someone give me more context on this issue? Does it seem like the sister intentionally insulted the mc? Also, why do you feel the need to attack his ego? There's nothing wrong with self-inserting into a story, so if he interpreted it the way he did it's normal, not a fragile ego issue.
 

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"Added "One True Dick Mode", to toggle off MOST non-player sex scenes. EDIT: Suitable replacements for some scenes will be added as the game develops."

I haven't played the game, and i don't intend to after seeing the comments, the graphics are top notch tho, but good luck trying to make 2 crowds happy while balancing enough content between the two, that never ends well with a solo artist.
 
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Jun3D

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I falled like a paratrooper in this game, but how in Oblivion can I get the scenes from the previews? they exist in the game or it's just some wip from future updates???
 

bobdillan

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"Added "One True Dick Mode", to toggle off MOST non-player sex scenes. EDIT: Suitable replacements for some scenes will be added as the game develops."

I haven't played the game, and i don't intend to after seeing the comments, the graphics are top notch tho, but good luck trying to make 2 crowds happy while balancing enough content between the two, that never ends well with a solo artist.
tbh that sums up what I think is going on. They aren't clearly choosing what kind of game they want to make (to their audience or themselves), is why the initial reception was such a clusterfuck because those in for romance and MC getting girls were the ones initially drawn to it (romance tag and all) only to be cucked by a burb. (and given the pattern setup the Burb will fuck her before you do as burb gets everything first so far).

Thus the initial backlash, and instead of choosing an audience the dev decided to add in a new mode (which felt a little cheap not gonna lie, and some saw it as an insult as if the dev was calling those people dicks, "one true dick" can't blame em for thinking so), was a quick fix that just toggles scenes instead of actually changing the story with new scenes, which comes across as cheap (whether or not it is).

Honestly I think they were trying to go for a voyeurism game that also has romance... they just forgo the key that people into voyeurism want to watch other people fuck, not LIs fuck other people/things. (that is Cucking/NTR fetish, even if the relationship isn't official yet still not voyeurism cause is an LI).

I don't really understand why the dev didn't see it coming, like playing through it and self-inserting it should have been pretty obvious imo. (especially if they have the romance tag cause that would 100% draw people that this would piss off, cause well.. no romance and O btw that LI sister you so interested in? here watch her give a BJ to a burb instead of you)

And yeah the two crowds thing is a lot harder with solo artist doing 2dcg. I reckon they will have to eventually drop one (or abandon will see). I myself don't have high hopes, I'm just here for the CGs and not the story at this point. (unless a future update actually fixes things instead of a band-aid).

While not irredeemable to that audience, they will have to put more work in that they would have if it was fixed before release for those that have already tried, because they will feel betrayed and lied to (cause well no romance and your sister goes off and sucks a burbs dick.... if you into romance and incest that is basically full on NTR for the player, even if not story wise), so gonna have to earn em back instead of just draw em in. (that is if they are still hanging around and not instant ignore :| )

P.s. yes yes I know very wordy, just my raw thoughts. (not a rant).
 

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Honestly I think they were trying to go for a voyeurism game that also has romance... they just forgo the key that people into voyeurism want to watch other people fuck, not LIs fuck other people/things. (that is Cucking/NTR fetish, even if the relationship isn't official yet still not voyeurism cause is an LI).
To standard H-gamers, every female (-looking) character is a LI. This wouldn't stop them from whining.
 
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bobdillan

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NTR=MC's romantic\sexual interest is fucked by a third party and MC suffers\is emasculated for it
Cuckoldry=MC's romantic\sexual interested is fucked by a third part and MC loves it.
Voyeur=MC gets of by watching other people having sex, usually but not necessarily with the fucking people not knowing about MC being there


MC doesn't show any interest in his sister, the Elf and Gnoll or Female Guard(...or Shota Guard). The scenes also lack emasculating remarks toward the MC.
Thus the scenes of they being fucked not by MC don't fit the requirement for the NTR genre.

What they DO fit the requirement of the Voyeur genre.


As MC does show interest toward Bird Woman, one might argue her scene is NTR.
But given the lack of suffering\emasculating it's just Voyeur again.
Ok only just saw this now, and going to respond, to specific parts that is.

But to keep it brief... yeah no NTR and Cuckoldry are synonymous i.e. same thing. A cuckhold for example is simple someone who has been cheated on (usually someone married though), Cuck though is used more for someone who enjoys it.

Next point, the "suffering\emasculating" is straight up wrong, NTR/Cuckholdry is simply someone else fucking your LI/wife/gf whatever. Someone fucking your wife doesn't become voyeurism if you don't give a shit. voyeurism is watching people fuck, not watching someone you are interested in fucking, that is NTR/cuckoldry. (and in porn/doujins it is any LI at all, and when a game has incest the female family kinda auto become LI's.... so cucks the player).

As for MC he doesn't need to show interest in the story because the player is the MC, their interest purely depends on the players interest. If the player has interest then they player is getting cucked plain an simple. (unless they are pre-establish to be in a relationship already, which the sister is not so that point is moot here outisde of the ara ara guard girl and the shota boy).

Sooo I said I would keep it brief... and I tried....

Tldnr: those definitions you used are wrong.
 
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bobdillan

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To standard H-gamers, every female (-looking) character is a LI. This wouldn't stop them from whining.
those people are far less though, however in this case it is justified as well, if you slap an incest tag on something then have the game progress and then bam your sister character that you are interested in and have been interacting with is now giving a burb a bj.... yeah can't really blame em.

The guard chick that is in a relationship with the shota guard tho that would be unfounded to complain about, (as I think you can choose not to watch? if not then should have the option, cause well not everyone wants to be a voyeur).

To elaborate from a player perspective, you are interested in the sister, so you talk to her everyday, and try to find her an shit, so they have already built interest, and since MCs interest is the players interest from a gameplay perspective (and she is a known LI) when they finally find her she is giving a bj to the burb.... boom player is cucked and punished for giving a damn. And not many would continue past that, and even when you do, later she tells you your dick is big.... which comes across as an insult because well... burb dick dwarfs your dick, and you know she did shit with it already.

How the dev thought that was romantic and not at all NTR themed is beyond me. And from a player perspective you would expect that to be the content going forward, the sister keeps doing shit and progressing with burb, and then you get the sloppy seconds and have zero say in the matter. (whether or no the dev intended this, that is the message given).
 
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tbh that sums up what I think is going on. They aren't clearly choosing what kind of game they want to make (to their audience or themselves), is why the initial reception was such a clusterfuck because those in for romance and MC getting girls were the ones initially drawn to it (romance tag and all) only to be cucked by a burb. (and given the pattern setup the Burb will fuck her before you do as burb gets everything first so far).

Thus the initial backlash, and instead of choosing an audience the dev decided to add in a new mode (which felt a little cheap not gonna lie, and some saw it as an insult as if the dev was calling those people dicks, "one true dick" can't blame em for thinking so), was a quick fix that just toggles scenes instead of actually changing the story with new scenes, which comes across as cheap (whether or not it is).

Honestly I think they were trying to go for a voyeurism game that also has romance... they just forgo the key that people into voyeurism want to watch other people fuck, not LIs fuck other people/things. (that is Cucking/NTR fetish, even if the relationship isn't official yet still not voyeurism cause is an LI).

I don't really understand why the dev didn't see it coming, like playing through it and self-inserting it should have been pretty obvious imo. (especially if they have the romance tag cause that would 100% draw people that this would piss off, cause well.. no romance and O btw that LI sister you so interested in? here watch her give a BJ to a burb instead of you)

And yeah the two crowds thing is a lot harder with solo artist doing 2dcg. I reckon they will have to eventually drop one (or abandon will see). I myself don't have high hopes, I'm just here for the CGs and not the story at this point. (unless a future update actually fixes things instead of a band-aid).

While not irredeemable to that audience, they will have to put more work in that they would have if it was fixed before release for those that have already tried, because they will feel betrayed and lied to (cause well no romance and your sister goes off and sucks a burbs dick.... if you into romance and incest that is basically full on NTR for the player, even if not story wise), so gonna have to earn em back instead of just draw em in. (that is if they are still hanging around and not instant ignore :| )

P.s. yes yes I know very wordy, just my raw thoughts. (not a rant).
Can't agree more! I think this game was pretty much a voyeur themed game where we the players control the MC- who basically a loser with small dick that no girls like or want to hang around with, and to feel a little bit of something he's decided to spying on the girls and fapping to the sex scenes between them with other. Because there is no way the MC could have won over their heart after their vaginal getting used with big dicks (like 5-8 times bigger than him) from bird or that futa hyena, so in the end he was nothing but third wheel, don't know how the developer would change or adding romantic content after that anyway...Maybe he should stated that this game won't have any romantic relationship and just roll with whatever he like or seem fit at this point, cause he would overwork himself with so many things the people want and that would not be good for his health
 
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