oh still think they should have separate tags as NTR can stand for three different things the two you mentioned netori netorare and the 3rd netorase which is the MC wants to see his girl to be fucked by others
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Actually, NTR never actually stands for netori common misconception. It is pretty much exclusive to Netorare, although possible netoraze (because it is just netorare with rape). I have seen however netori labeled as NTRi on some doujin website. but usually netori is tagged as netori, with NTR being only Netorare.
Anyway, should end this topic, because well is off-topic on this thread at this point :S
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The thing is that if we had a loose version of netori, it would account for just about every game on this site. How many games can you think of where you fuck someone else's wife, husband, girlfriend, or boyfriend? A lot presumably. And if we have a strict version of netori almost zero games would get the tag, as almost none actually follow up on the feelings of the dude/dudette you cuck. It would be even more of a mess of a tag then NTR is, and wouldn't fix the core of the issue as people who don't understand the tagging rules will still mislabel it. As for netorase we have one that generally includes that, swinging. Either way this is kinda off topic now, so lets stop it here everyone.
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I think this game has some potential, feels less like a demo and more like an early concept just thrown out there. The DEV did make adjustments fairly quick after ppl spoke out about it. Sounds like a healthy start to the game to me.
Although I certainly did feel like the MC was a third wheel, and that cockblocking shop keep needs to get circumvented quickly...
Although I certainly did feel like the MC was a third wheel, and that cockblocking shop keep needs to get circumvented quickly...
Well the Dev seems to be trying, so I'm willing to give it a shot. I'm still pretty wary, I'm hoping the elf isn't actually a futa and that was magic.
Mc clearly is the third wheel in the current build, I'm not sure turning it off is going to really help with that. That is a content ratio and writing problem.
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I don't have a problem with futa content, a penis will be a penis no matter what. Although I could see it being magic, what with the MC's extra large bulge and the elf having none. Hopefully the whole game doesn't proceed with this kind of ratio...and mebbe a little less RNG. I'm looking forward to more monster girls then anything! 
Yeah! I think we should stop and wait until the next update to see how the story will be develop, this game at least still in the first demo so the developer could change much easier. I don't mind much about furry or futa content but just don't turn MC into third wheel
And I found out he has account on this site since May and look like he did read every criticize comments so far so I think he did get what our pervs want now
In the event that anyone cares. I'm gonna make just mention the scenes I found based on the 'tips'
After dealing with the first day's events and the game lets you freeroam. There's a white crystal, a blue crystal, and half a bed in the center of town. White crystal changes the time of day, Blue changes the day itself without changing the time of day, and the bed makes you go to bed and reset the day. I have high doubts this could trigger events as I've had more luck doing it the slow way by eating and sleeping than the fast way.
That said, I noticed the pot in the PC's room that denotes day number, not sure how this works/helps
1- (Sister)On random nights, the MC will wake up to a noise and you can choose in investigate it. Heading north, you'll see your sister giving one of the chocobos(Bronkbeaks) a blowjob.
On the next night, you can approach her while she's asleep and jerk off on her face.
The next night, go to bed and the game will ask if you wanna masturbate. Accept your fate and your sister will catch you jerking off. Repeat again for your sister to catch you jerking off, instead of running away with an apology, she'll meekly crawl up to your dick and get covered. End of the Sister route at the moment.
(Your sister will still blow the birds at nights)
2- (Captain)At night, you can talk to the captain in the bar; the game will point out the amount of beer she's consumed, this scene occurs when she is drunk. Ask to join her and she'll accept, leading you to escort her back to the barracks where she moons you, with her ass and pussy on display, you run away and she hesitantly thanks you for helping her home.
The next night, talk to her in the bar and ask to sit with her. This will lead to you fucking her over her desk back at the barracks. You can now just talk to her at the bar for this scene.
3- (The Mercenaries) On random nights, you can spy on the Dark Elf Futa titfucking the Gnoll next to the inn
4- (Guards) Some nights when walking to the pass, you'll see lady guard giving the shota guard a titjob by their post
5- (Bird Lady) Some nights (Presumably after your sister gets a face full of your cum), the bird lady will give one of the birds a BJ
In conclusion. I see a lot of voyeurism, beastiality, and a bit of shotacon, futa, and furry. Not really NTR when the girls involved are not in a relationship with the Player. The closest being your sister blowing the bird even after she watches you masturbate. NTR implies that you are in a relationship with the girls already and they are fucking other people or birds behind your back.
After dealing with the first day's events and the game lets you freeroam. There's a white crystal, a blue crystal, and half a bed in the center of town. White crystal changes the time of day, Blue changes the day itself without changing the time of day, and the bed makes you go to bed and reset the day. I have high doubts this could trigger events as I've had more luck doing it the slow way by eating and sleeping than the fast way.
That said, I noticed the pot in the PC's room that denotes day number, not sure how this works/helps
1- (Sister)On random nights, the MC will wake up to a noise and you can choose in investigate it. Heading north, you'll see your sister giving one of the chocobos(Bronkbeaks) a blowjob.
On the next night, you can approach her while she's asleep and jerk off on her face.
The next night, go to bed and the game will ask if you wanna masturbate. Accept your fate and your sister will catch you jerking off. Repeat again for your sister to catch you jerking off, instead of running away with an apology, she'll meekly crawl up to your dick and get covered. End of the Sister route at the moment.
(Your sister will still blow the birds at nights)
2- (Captain)At night, you can talk to the captain in the bar; the game will point out the amount of beer she's consumed, this scene occurs when she is drunk. Ask to join her and she'll accept, leading you to escort her back to the barracks where she moons you, with her ass and pussy on display, you run away and she hesitantly thanks you for helping her home.
The next night, talk to her in the bar and ask to sit with her. This will lead to you fucking her over her desk back at the barracks. You can now just talk to her at the bar for this scene.
3- (The Mercenaries) On random nights, you can spy on the Dark Elf Futa titfucking the Gnoll next to the inn
4- (Guards) Some nights when walking to the pass, you'll see lady guard giving the shota guard a titjob by their post
5- (Bird Lady) Some nights (Presumably after your sister gets a face full of your cum), the bird lady will give one of the birds a BJ
In conclusion. I see a lot of voyeurism, beastiality, and a bit of shotacon, futa, and furry. Not really NTR when the girls involved are not in a relationship with the Player. The closest being your sister blowing the bird even after she watches you masturbate. NTR implies that you are in a relationship with the girls already and they are fucking other people or birds behind your back.
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There is a problem that push script is set to wait until all scripted actions are completed and since the game can't move you back, it waits ... indefinitely.
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NTRhaters and Vanillalovers we fucking won AGAIN!
We just CAN NOT stop winning!!!
We just CAN NOT stop winning!!!
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My hot take on this game is that the art is really quiet good for being so new and for the most part I did enjoy most of the character interactions. Now for the negatives, most of the mechanics that the dev has implemented are clunky and honestly annoying. Having to rely on what appears to be random chance to trigger and scenes makes for a very boring time between scenes where your just clicking a stool three times and waiting because literally every scene only happens at night. I would also like to say that triggering the chief event is almost impossible, I tried talking to her at night so so many times even after seeing all the other scenes and finishing the sister quest line but her mug was always full. So If the dev say implemented a 7 day week system and bound those events to happen on specific days of the week guaranteed depending on the quest progression of the MC I think that would do a lot to improve the game play portion also spice it up put some morning scenes and afternoon scenes in especially when you start adding more characters. Lastly I think if you went and gave every single NPC dialog instead of being non interactable like the Aunt and the people standing outside the shop and at the bar, as well as gave them variation in their dialogues depending on progression flags that would really help the game feel better and more fleshed out. Honestly though your doing good work Mr. Dev and I'm looking forward to your next update.
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also: on mornings, WALK ON THE STREET to the house of the girl you rescued at the begin, you can get to peep on her bathing
technically, since the birds came first, you are STEALING your sister from them with your BBC(big brotherly cock)
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When it comes to family in incest games, doesn't matter if they are in a sexual relationship it tends to be NTR simply cause the base relationship is already there. For example the game big brother, the antag will fuck your family if you fail (or let him I guess), And even though you aren't in a relationship with them it is classed as NTR (cause well you see him fuck them... just like in this you see burb get a blowie from your sister).
So while the argument for the other characters is pretty clear not really NTR cause MC has no relationship with them does hold weight, for the sister character it is pretty straight forward as NTR. (given how those games are treated and the different dynamic).
Cause well, you don't want to see them fucking cause it disgusts you... or because it isn't you. And well is incest game so will be the latter.
P.s. pretty much all point of NTR are exclusive to the sister afaik. Like the ranch lady, beast/elve, and the ara ara guard with her man, not really, pretty much just voyerism, the sister though... already base there sooo :| people no likely and the player will feel cucked.
I see, I guess my definition of NTR is different because I associate NTR as catching someone you have a sexual or romantic relationship with having sex or romancing someone else. In fact...
This... makes more sense than implying that you are getting cucked by giant chocobos.
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yeah things get a bit iffy when it comes to games, cause well you have what the player is feeling to also take into consideration.
Part of design is the whole "What you want the player to feel." and design around that idea.
So in the case of this game, while it might not be straight up NTR, the player will feel the same whether or not the MC is currently with the sister character (with the odd exception but we talking generally here).
So if you don't want that then you would remove that scene, or have it as an optional scene that the player themselves encourage. (So it is more sharing than cucking).
Like how subverse is going to be doing it with their beast types as something the player will choose to do and not something that will happen to them (changing the context entirely).
The only scenario where one would not at all feel like a cuck in the slightest, is if they didn't have any interest (or that char is already in a relationship, although in incest stories that isn't that case).
I think the biggest mistep they made with this first release, is not properly defining their target audience.... cause well... they did try to give it a romance tag... with zero romance in it. So obviously they have an idea for what they want, but going off the first release, they are trying to do things that directly conflict, i.e. romance but burb also fucking the same LI without player choice, thus destroying any concept of romance there... cause well, how could they really be romantically involved if they off fucking burb as well without caring what MC thinks.
Hell they still could go the way they initially planned quite easily. All they would have to do is just not mix fetishes across characters. Like sister is obviously supposed to be a romance story... so remove all Burb stuff as something the sister does, and only allow it as something MC wants them to do. And leave the ara ara chick as someone the MC only ever watches and is not romantically involved with (unless MC steals them or wants to MMF with them), and with the beast girl and elf could do some sort of rel I guess, or just watching. ranch girl though.... pretty much watching in that case imo, maybe with the option for MC to join in, but definitely not a LI.
Basically the dev needs to not forget the love, in love interest, for characters that are meant to be that. Cause adding beast content with a LI without MCs choice.... kinda ruins the point of them being an LI.
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Is this really the way people look at things?
I guess I don't understand the perspective because like... I'm not ever actually self-inserting as characters in these sorts of games. The MC isn't any more me than any of these other characters, it doesn't matter to me which of these characters are fucking whoever. None of them are me, I'm just here to see porn.
Anyway I literally only grabbed this game because of beast/furry/futa content, so please don't try to get the author to replace it all with boring vanilla guys lmao
nah: it's vouyerism not NTR
you are\MC is not supposed to be feel betrayed by the sister
same here. I'm fine with basically anything, just make sure the player know what they are getting so they can skip it.
which is arguably the main issue of this release, you don't know what you get until you are in, and cannot stop\skip
a simple confirmation one wants to see the scenes, perhaps with a chance to perma-block that specific fetish, would be for the best
also: I'm surprised to say this, but too many girls with too big boobs.
I love big and giant boobs, but if everybody is gigantits then they lose some charm.
go with more variety in size
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