Others Fall of Haven [v0.7.6] [indyc]

[nightsight]

i couldn't find the wolves : ( was sad i couldnt turn into a werewolf =.=

i dont know where they are

 

[kkl]

The hand drawn art is sourced from a Brazillian team and now I'm mostly working with a single member of it. While it's true that I don't have complete control of whatever they do, I am asking for revisions on a nearly daily basis and they are spot on with even the most minor of changes.

I think most of the AI comments are coming from that stupid smile photo that was taken as WIP art that I was showing people on my Patreon back in September. Honestly the smile expressions were the toughest ones to get right.


I'm not the artist (though I've learned to do much of the pixel art myself) but here area few pictures I was able to find going back through discussions and revisions for this or that. I have literal years of these revisions and how the back and forth went every day.

Do their smiles have the uncanny valley? I actually agree!

We almost gave up on smiles because we didn't think we could pull them off. The initial pose was not drawn to ever expect those expression changes and that was part of my scope creep. I think my artists are incredibly skilled and an amazing value but giving them that smile may have been beyond the ability of anyone I could find or afford.
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Even if I was tempted to go the AI route I don't even think it is advanced enough to do this many paperdoll overlays. I'm also not technically savvy. I have over a thousand hand drawn assets in the game already that are all layered together in a coding nightmare. Please enjoy it if it sounds like something you would like and ignore it if it doesn't.

EDIT: I just noticed that main uncanny valley photo of the thread IS even a work in progress smile. This is what the one in game looks more like (still not amazing but hopefully a bit more canny):
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I know I don't owe anyone evidence and I bet whatever I could trawl up isn't enough for everyone. Just know that lose money every month to pay into this game as a gamble for the future. Please don't burn any witches without solid evidence when my livelihood is counting on this gamble paying off one day.

you need to fire them Brazilians then, because they have to be tracing over ai. that or you somehow decided to settle on the most ai looking art style possible. I think I've seen those same faces on at least 30 different slop games on here.

 

[indyc]

i couldn't find the wolves : ( was sad i couldnt turn into a werewolf =.=

i dont know where they are

0.7.6 is too bugged to get there sadly.

you need to fire them Brazilians then, because they have to be tracing over ai. that or you somehow decided to settle on the most ai looking art style possible. I think I've seen those same faces on at least 30 different slop games on here.

I "settled" on this style a little over 2 years ago before the faces you speak of became the norm. Artists use the same references (in this case a semi-realistic Disney style) as a lot of AI eventually pulled from. I regret not picking something more stylized because it honestly would have saved me a lot of money and allowed me to receive art far more quickly.

Have you hired artists before or sold illustrations? Have you seen a single AI artifact? You are speaking with tons of certainty where there is none. You may think it is not the style you are looking for but please don't tell someone to fire parts of their team.

 

[kkl]

0.7.6 is too bugged to get there sadly.


I "settled" on this style a little over 2 years ago before the faces you speak of became the norm. Artists use the same references (in this case a semi-realistic Disney style) as a lot of AI eventually pulled from. I regret not picking something more stylized because it honestly would have saved me a lot of money and allowed me to receive art far more quickly.

Have you hired artists before or sold illustrations? Have you seen a single AI artifact? You are speaking with tons of certainty where there is none. You may think it is not the style you are looking for but please don't tell someone to fire parts of their team.

that art style was the standard for genslop back then. whoever you hired traced over the first thing they generated. im sorry man, but its just the truth. the pixel are looks fine btw not even hating on that. with how you did the portraits it probably wouldn't be too hard to change it to something less suspect.

 

[oahuebydao]

that is the most AI-looking art I've ever seen

 

[Annie_the_Sissy]

Hey how is the Sissification accessible?

 

[indyc]

that art style was the standard for genslop back then. whoever you hired traced over the first thing they generated. im sorry man, but its just the truth. the pixel are looks fine btw not even hating on that. with how you did the portraits it probably wouldn't be too hard to change it to something less suspect.

Some more WIPs of the face development. Notice how the eye spacing, nose size, lip sizes are constantly changing. I don't think you could generate stuff like that over 2 years ago.


Some dress WIPs that I found while looking through those messages.

Changing it to something else would be a massive overhaul both financially and in artist time that is already a bottleneck. It's already going to be a minor miracle if I can fund things to the end and pull all of this off.

Hey how is the Sissification accessible?

It won't be a mechanic for a very long time. Sorry they have it in normal tag instead of planned, I still don't have control over the thread.

 

[GreenNight009]

So far i enjoyed the game.. even tho its full of bugs. I really hope we get to see more the corruption and possession aspect. Perhaps ghost possession with some body tf or modification.
And can't wait for the next update.

 

[steelfury666]

Are there any scenes added already or just armor tearing and some "curses"?

 

[indyc]

So far i enjoyed the game.. even tho its full of bugs. I really hope we get to see more the corruption and possession aspect. Perhaps ghost possession with some body tf or modification.
And can't wait for the next update.

There is light ghost possession but not in this version (because progression is bugged). I'm a long way off from making more of the impacts happen. You could say the same thing for the corruption side of things too, they are light on consequences for now.

Are there any scenes added already or just armor tearing and some "curses"?

No other than maybe the fact that the tentacles can impregnate you in this version?

However the current version has some oral sex and alarune animations. I'm pretty behind on getting enough art together for most of the NSFW mechanics.

 

[nightsight]

indyc is there werewolves transformations in this version o.o i thought there added in or did i misread something

 

[indyc]

indyc is there werewolves transformations in this version o.o i thought there added in or did i misread something

Because there is a gate bugged that doesn't let you get to the cemetery and the start of where the werewolves are, it is sadly inaccessible in this version from September.

 

[nightsight]

Because there is a gate bugged that doesn't let you get to the cemetery and the start of where the werewolves are, it is sadly inaccessible in this version from September.

ah nooooo...... that was why i wanted the game >< im such a doughbag >< uggg *face palm* was so looking forward to the werewolf transformations tooo >< sigh =.=

 

[GreenNight009]

There is light ghost possession but not in this version (because progression is bugged). I'm a long way off from making more of the impacts happen. You could say the same thing for the corruption side of things too, they are light on consequences for now.


No other than maybe the fact that the tentacles can impregnate you in this version?

However the current version has some oral sex and alarune animations. I'm pretty behind on getting enough art together for most of the NSFW mechanics.

And this light ghost possession.. where is it? im assuming passed the bugged gate?

 

[steelfury666]

There is light ghost possession but not in this version (because progression is bugged). I'm a long way off from making more of the impacts happen. You could say the same thing for the corruption side of things too, they are light on consequences for now.


No other than maybe the fact that the tentacles can impregnate you in this version?

However the current version has some oral sex and alarune animations. I'm pretty behind on getting enough art together for most of the NSFW mechanics.

How to get this tentacles scene? I have been experimenting with the game for few hours, but unfortunately no results...

 

[indyc]

And this light ghost possession.. where is it? im assuming passed the bugged gate?

Yeah, it's the very next stage. (Cemetery levels)

How to get this tentacles scene? I have been experimenting with the game for few hours, but unfortunately no results...

Because this is an old September build, I honestly don't know if that feature was included by then or if it is bugged. Based on the fact that you tried for a few hours I'm guessing that it might be inaccessible in that build.

 

[GreenNight009]

Yeah, it's the very next stage. (Cemetery levels)


Because this is an old September build, I honestly don't know if that feature was included by then or if it is bugged. Based on the fact that you tried for a few hours I'm guessing that it might be inaccessible in that build.

Is there any chance you could release a new version? or at the very least a bug fix so people can go passed the bugged gate?

 

[indyc]

Is there any chance you could release a new version? or at the very least a bug fix so people can go passed the bugged gate?

I'm going to copy what I said elsewhere:

"Prior to the leak I was working on getting the game to a "demo state" that was probably around 2 months away that I was going to put on F95zone. That plan is unchanged.

However, having such an awful version leaked here does make me heavily tempted to put a less awful version up in the meantime. That being said, getting bug reports is a nightmare with different versions out there and how many things I change all the time. I also have no clue which version would make the most sense to put here next before the demo comes. (nearly every version has some pretty detrimental bugs of some kind) I'm honestly still trying to figure out what to do with this whole situation."

For now, I'll PM you and whomever else requests another September version after this one that does not have the gate bug.

 

[Troqu]

I'm going to copy what I said elsewhere:

"Prior to the leak I was working on getting the game to a "demo state" that was probably around 2 months away that I was going to put on F95zone. That plan is unchanged.

However, having such an awful version leaked here does make me heavily tempted to put a less awful version up in the meantime. That being said, getting bug reports is a nightmare with different versions out there and how many things I change all the time. I also have no clue which version would make the most sense to put here next before the demo comes. (nearly every version has some pretty detrimental bugs of some kind) I'm honestly still trying to figure out what to do with this whole situation."

For now, I'll PM you and whomever else requests another September version after this one that does not have the gate bug.

Personally I've got enough to play I don't need it, but good on you.