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Soulpuppet

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Oh trust me, I completely get it. For the record, I too hated how slow it felt not giving you guys the updates sooner as I hoped. But unfortunately, life has a funny way of showing its appreciation towards an individual, lol. My HOPE is that with the Remake, there will be a shit ton of content, but a lot more abundant in terms of release schedules. I'll be breaking them down into chunks like before. Regardless of how they come to be though, there will be some that will stick it out for the long ride, and those that wanna rip my head off for not giving them their Fall of the Angels fix... lol.
My biggest issue was no action with Jyn :HideThePain:. I haven't played the recent updates so I don't even know if this is true or not. Now I'm on the fence to even play it now because of the remake, seeing how things are going to change, well the whole structure in general.
 

Bse

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Believe me, I've thought about it long and hard, and now acting accordingly. How you all feel about it is a different story, one that will always be divisive. There's nothing against that! Just saying that I will always be put into some sort of losing position with the audience, lol
NIce to read this. THX and looking out for it. What you are make out of it. But remeber your own is not to top by other. Let say Star wars 9 since when sound in space and when fuel?? and so on. you cant to all. Rember it. There is no Perfect. You see it as Perfect i see yooo anal slut cool let do it again. Now give my face palm. Dont use the new Renpy stick to Unity or ren 7.4 or 3.9 work great with all Hardwear.
 

S1nsational

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I liked the credits, if for not other reason than getting to see my name mentioned, it was nice :)
 

rspkers

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And for you...... it wasn't meant to be cute. Nor is the game meant to be a porn game... nor would Kojima say anything because he's an untouchable god, lmao.

But in all seriousness, I put them there to give credit where credit is due. Yes, they may seem long, and are initially unskippable (as described on the Changelog), but you can skip through them after first seeing them, including the Chapter and Act scenes.

If five minutes of giving credit to everyone that's either supported me, helped me, been there, or making sure the musicians and such get their credit is enough to blueball you....... that's the end of that sentence, lmao.

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Lol, right. Your koikatsu anime porn game with a harem full of thirsty waifus who basically worship you isn't a porn game. And I'm getting "blue-balled" in your not porn game as well. Interesting angle, almost impressive in scope, honestly. It's like you almost actually believe what you're saying.

Anyway, it's not about the fact that you included credits. Almost every dev includes credits. It's that you kick the player out of your story multiple times during key emotional moments to repeat the same slow as fuck credits at a snails pace, which ruins tension. It's the approach that's the problem. Look, you can stroke yourself off all you want thinking you're Steven Spielberg in your not porn game, and you can also try and deflect by trying to shift the self congratulatory nature of it all on "supporting everyone." But, really, I think it was a bit much, ventured into cringe territory, and would have been better suited at the end of the content instead of constantly trying to reach me concerning my car's extended warranty. Your mileage may vary.
 

Shenhan

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This game a has a terrible habit of setting up cool fights only for the scene to cut away to a group of people talking about inane bullshit. It feels like there's never any pay off for all the build up.

I also wish it would put the whole line of dialogue up at once. I hate having to click 4 or 5 times just to read one line of text. It's annoying.

And what's wrong with having a normal right click menu with everything you need on one screen? I swear, every time a dev tries put their twist on that they just make it worse.
 
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13th Sin Games

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Lol, right. Your koikatsu anime porn game with a harem full of thirsty waifus who basically worship you isn't a porn game. And I'm getting "blue-balled" in your not porn game as well. Interesting angle, almost impressive in scope, honestly. It's like you almost actually believe what you're saying.
Clearly our definitions of a porn game differ, lol. I mean, do you see 10 sex scenes back to back non-stop? I don't know what you see, but I can't find them, lol. I'm only saying it's not meant to be heavily porn-driven... the main focus is the story, then the porn. If you're looking strictly for the porn, then of course you're gonna be blue-balled. Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm more focused on delivering the story first before making sure you're able to stroke yourself beforehand.

As for the credits, well... I don't know if you've seen a lot of movies or shows with tension, but I can guarantee you that there are a lot of them that have credits right after the tension.

Anyway, as also said before, I will never claim to be right. Will things ever be perfect? Fuck no, lmao. There will always be elements that'll trigger some folk, and be praised by others. I can only try to give you an enjoyable experience
 
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Shenhan

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I mean if you want me to in the future, I can be sure to cover the screen in a paragraph during the fight scenes, lol
That's a hyperbole argument, and I'll respond in kind; What fight scenes? You cut away from them before they can even begin.

Seriously though, I think you missed my point entirely. I'm specifically referring to you breaking up a single line of dialogue. For example: "Stormy... please... just... let me think..." That's a single line of dialogue, but I've got to click 4 times to get the whole thing on screen. I get that you're trying to emphasis the pauses, but that's what the dots(...) are for. It just makes it irritating to because you click expecting a new line of text to appear and end up re-reading the same thing again.
 
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That's a hyperbole argument, and I'll respond in kind; What fight scenes? You cut away from them before they can even begin.
You may not believe me on this, but I actually wanted to show a lot more fights, or extend the fights, lol. But, I was having an internal battle of either cutting them out for the time being and releasing what I have now... or add them in, but push the game back even more... probably chosen poorly. I honestly wouldn't know.

Seriously though, I think you missed my point entirely. I'm specifically referring to you breaking up a single line of dialogue. For example: "Stormy... please... just... let me think..." That's a single line of dialogue, but I've got to click 4 times to get the whole thing on screen. I get that you're trying to emphasis the pauses, but that's what the dots(...) are for. It just makes it irritating to because you click expecting a new line of text to appear and up re-reading the same thing again.
Ohhhhhhhh, those??? Yeah, no... I can completely agree with you on the amount of ellipses used, lmao. I will definitely be removing a lot of them in the future, and will do better as well, lol. Essentially, learning from my mistakes, and making improvements where needed.
 
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gholmes

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How many goddamn "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM" moments do you want to put in a game? The fuck? Been holding skip for 10 minutes just to see if there's an actual end to it.

Edit: There is eventually a final form. It's also the literal end after all the credits. :HideThePain:
 
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rspkers

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Clearly our definitions of a porn game differ, lol. I mean, do you see 10 sex scenes back to back non-stop? I don't know what you see, but I can't find them, lol. I'm only saying it's not meant to be heavily porn-driven... the main focus is the story, then the porn. If that's what you're looking for, then of course you're gonna be blue-balled. Maybe I'm delusional, but I'm more focused on delivering the story first before making sure you're able to stroke yourself first.

As for the credits, well... I don't know if you've seen a lot of movies or shows with tension, but I can guarantee you that there are a lot of them that have credits right after the tension.

Anyway, as also said before, I will never claim to be right. Will things ever be perfect? Fuck no, lmao. There will always be elements that'll trigger some folk, and be praised by others. I can only try to give you an enjoyable experience
Dude. Anyone who says "story, then the porn" would (should) be self aware enough to recognize that a statement like that generally means it's a porn game... It's a self defeating argument. Take a look at your tags, and then take a look at your content. It's a porn game on a porn game site. I have no idea what your angle is with this or why you're even trying to seriously suggest otherwise. Having a somewhat heavier focus on "story" does not somehow exclude it from being a porn game. An eroge is not always the same as a nukige and vice versa. Both are still porn. So yes, you're delusional. It's lewd, it's crude, it's porn.

You really don't need to worry about people stroking themselves off. You're doing more than enough stroking yourself for all of us with your Kojima credits. :HideThePain:

I like your game. I just don't like your approach to spamming multiple instances of lengthy slowmo credits at me while I'm trying to get into the story and characters during a key climactic and/or emotional scene, and find it far more annoying than the Sundance festival film winner you seem to think this is. Best of luck with your rewrite/remake.
 

Korp

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Im not gonna lie, as first post im making, just to say this game is actually nice on story, made me a bit emotional with all the characters development, i have a few favorite characters, i wonder where the story goes beyond chapter 3... i think my favorite character are aliza, sinavera, zenera.
 
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13th Sin Games

Fall of the Angels
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Dude. Anyone who says "story, then the porn" would (should) be self aware enough to recognize that a statement like that generally means it's a porn game... It's a self defeating argument. Take a look at your tags, and then take a look at your content. It's a porn game on a porn game site. I have no idea what your angle is with this or why you're even trying to seriously suggest otherwise. Having a somewhat heavier focus on "story" does not somehow exclude it from being a porn game. An eroge is not always the same as a nukige and vice versa. Both are still porn. So yes, you're delusional. It's lewd, it's crude, it's porn.

You really don't need to worry about people stroking themselves off. You're doing more than enough stroking yourself for all of us with your Kojima credits. :HideThePain:

I like your game. I just don't like your approach to spamming multiple instances of lengthy slowmo credits at me while I'm trying to get into the story and characters during a key climactic and/or emotional scene, and find it far more annoying than the Sundance festival film winner you seem to think this is. Best of luck with your rewrite/remake.
I get it, alright? No need to be rude about it. Not saying you're right or wrong, and I'm certainly not saying the same thing. I am self-aware, just look at it more of a story with adult elements than strictly porn. Just my opinion of how I see things... Also, I simply gave credit where credit is due. I thought I placed it in a pretty good spot similar to how Marvel and other action/tension movies or shows do it, but clearly must have done it wrong... and there's only two instances, not a spam... I'll try to better next time for the Remake... appreciate the feedback, nonetheless
 
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