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easy85

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Some people just like hating.
Some people just expect some degree of professionalism. Yeah, it's steam's fault but as developer/producer/publisher you have to expect that something will go wrong at some point, you have to account for it and schedule accordingly.
Let's be honest here - this is not the first time they are having issues with steam. Expecting that CBT launch will go smoothly, despite their "relationship" with steam, was a big oversight.
 

rf96

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Some people just expect some degree of professionalism. Yeah, it's steam's fault but as developer/producer/publisher you have to expect that something will go wrong at some point, you have to account for it and schedule accordingly.
Let's be honest here - this is not the first time they are having issues with steam. Expecting that CBT launch will go smoothly, despite their "relationship" with steam, was a big oversight.
What do you suggest they do?
 

Fozn

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Almost like the whole product key thing is only a marketing trick for Patreon subs and not something that corresponds with the real proceedings of

If they are going to release the product in early access,

But hey, just keep your own narrative, people don't fact-check anyway :)
 

VengefulKron

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From your own link:

NOTE: Requests for large amounts of keys will be manually reviewed by Valve before processing.
^that's the problem.

Stop spouting crap, please.
The problem is that ProjectH's request went against against Steam's guidelines:
If you plan to run a larger beta that requires more than a few thousand release override keys, you'll need to use the Steam Playtest feature. You can learn more about this feature .
I would assume 50,000-80,000 is more than a few thousand.

And now that they've been told they have to follow those guidelines, they're putting the blame on Steam for enforcing their policies. So ProjectH either didn't read, or thought they could pull one over on Steam.
 

Fozn

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The problem is that ProjectH's request went against against Steam's guidelines:


I would assume 50,000-80,000 is more than a few thousand.

And now that they've been told they have to follow those guidelines, they're putting the blame on Steam for enforcing their policies. So ProjectH either didn't read, or thought they could pull one over on Steam.
Yep, they (partially) violate the agreement in a couple places. If nothing else it's incompetence in reading the Terms of your primary publisher...

Thankfully I have no skin in any of this ;)
 

benisfug

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Yes, let's change the whole business plan because of a stupid Steam admin... There is no alternative for indie devs making porn games of this size.
How is Steam "the whole business plan"? They were self-publishing before, they talked about publishing on other services like GoG and some mystery platform, they have their own servers for online and for streaming all the game assets from as part of their always online scheme. There's no reason they can't publish somewhere else while they wait on Steam to get their shit together.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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How is Steam "the whole business plan"? They were self-publishing before, they talked about publishing on other services like GoG and some mystery platform, they have their own servers for online and for streaming all the game assets from as part of their always online scheme. There's no reason they can't publish somewhere else while they wait on Steam to get their shit together.
was the OG fallen doll even published anywhere? or did they just publish it themselves? because in that case they could totally do that with OL as well since the logins are based on patreon anyway...
 

DareDev1

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I wonder what would happen if he would never get the Stupid idea of ''Gameplay'' and just continues to give us 9 animatons each month... After all we would have get at least 72 new animations in total. But instead he milked his own supporters, which they never asked for his dumb Story mode or ''Harem'' idea. what in the hell is that mean anyway? Fck your friend in multiplayer??

Well in any case when he releases this crap you'all going to see what you have paid for. Just 10-20 new animations and Rotating the sex scenes. (with a lot of Bugs probably) you can call me a seer after this but this is the sad truth.
 
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are we still able to have a cracked version that we can download?
For the last time, it is a big unknown at this point, until we sure what model Project Helius publishing we don't know. If what i and some other said is true which is they using server hosting online model with most of core component of the game in server then you can kiss your wallet goodbye if you want to play the game. If they use the offline game model but force to internet connecting to play then probably someone can crack, but with how the harem mode is suppose to work which require you to play with other to unlock sex scene then you can also kiss sex animation goodbye and can only play story mode cracked, you still need to pay for sex mode.
And..............they can also change their business model in the near future, given how they have done in the past, they could well do this again...................
How is Steam "the whole business plan"? They were self-publishing before, they talked about publishing on other services like GoG and some mystery platform, they have their own servers for online and for streaming all the game assets from as part of their always online scheme. There's no reason they can't publish somewhere else while they wait on Steam to get their shit together.
was the OG fallen doll even published anywhere? or did they just publish it themselves? because in that case they could totally do that with OL as well since the logins are based on patreon anyway...
Steam is a marketing purpose and an excuse. They marketing their game to people who not yet know about them through steam, thus draw more curious people to play and possibly pay more to get the sex part through patreon, a type of advertisement, let people play non-h content and advertising h-content. An excuse is if something goes wrong they can just blame steam instead, and they already done it in the past, this time they probably actually doesn't read steam guideline thus leading to accident; or worse conspiracy, they know but did it anyway, thus leading to Steam responses and they can use that responses as a legitimate proof for another delay, or we can called it intended accident or planned accident, but hey it is too assumptous so you guys doesn't need to believe this, just me thinking

Also iirc, Patreon is a donation platform, so all form of money giving is just donation, you violate patreon guideline only if other people need to pay for the final production. But steam is a paying platform, you need to pay for the production; so it is a good strategy, using steam to cover the weakness of patreon. But hey it is just my thinking, and i'm a noob, feel free to correct me
 

jazon1

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Haha wow he still does not have anything on steam yet? its been what a year now since he announced it "coming to steam soon" what an epic disappointment this has turned into for many of us. i myself went from being super excited for this game to hit steam and be developed more to now just here to watch the train wreck...and dont get me started on harem mode lol who asked for a circle jerk with your buddys?
 

HardcoreCuddler

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I wonder what would happen if he would never get the Stupid idea of ''Gameplay'' and just continues to give us 9 animatons each month... After all we would have get at least 72 new animations in total. But instead he milked his own supporters, which they never asked for his dumb Story mode or ''Harem'' idea. what in the hell is that mean anyway? Fck your friend in multiplayer??

Well in any case when he releases this crap you'all going to see what you have paid for. Just 10-20 new animations and Rotating the sex scenes. (with a lot of Bugs probably) you can call me a seer after this but this is the sad truth.
"Hey bro, wanna jerk off together in fallen doll tonight?"
"Hell ya brah I'm totes down!"
Haha wow he still does not have anything on steam yet? its been what a year now since he announced it "coming to steam soon" what an epic disappointment this has turned into for many of us. i myself went from being super excited for this game to hit steam and be developed more to now just here to watch the train wreck...and dont get me started on harem mode lol who asked for a circle jerk with your buddys?
I think the excuse is that they're doing it for whatever server hosting company that is going to use the game to test their shit or whatever
 
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