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ihatefleas

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I do agree, take my comment more as an expresion rather than a description, in fact I do agree so much with your logic/statement that it kinda described me in a couple of times I got an early access game despite having a self-imposed rule about those things.

However though, I do agree but can't shake the tought of "how much of these echo-chamber people do act as the mantioned paying shills?", what I mean, I've seen many people that defend this game and some are almost cult-like or shills if you will, so am I too far wrong for thinking the way I do?, honest question btw.
A shill is usually a paid actor that has no interest other than money. You get paid for promoting something and that's it. It's someone posing as a fan. A fan however is genuine in that he believes whatever he's a fan of deserves promoting, they do it for free. If you want to be precise about definitions, that is - nowadays shill usually means something like fanboy so there's that.

People do get emotionally invested for many different reasons. Sunk cost is one thing, but there's also a lot of people that genuinely believe in the project, dev, artist or w/e and are willing to pay to see it coming to fruition. These people also tend to form echochambers and nowadays everyone's paranoid. If you like something you're a shill, if you dislike something you're a hater. For a fan of the game this thread might also look somewhat cult-ish from the outside. Simply because you get a lot of social cred here for shitting on the game, the supporters and the devs.

If you download the latest version of the game that's available here, it's imo obvious why some people fall for this. I would like to see the devs turn this ship around and deliver a good h-game but I don't see that happening. Which is a bummer because there's almost zero games with fetishes (monster/bestiality) and production values (talking strictly about graphics, character design and animations) like this failed project.
 

Purple_Heart

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From your wall text posts:
" It is ill advised to speak in ways that make you look like an idiot. "
" you would not be looking stupid now "
"It simply isn't worth it to deal with idiots. "

Wtf did I say that was rude?
Aggressive sure, but not rude.
That was you..
I am surpised to learn someone is actually reading those(wall text) posts, especially since I know they are full of bs. Your bs tolerance must be very high.

FYI, I'm not badgering "everyone". I responded to Purple's bullshit then you two responded to me in a rude manner. Apparently I'm supposed to be like, cool, fuck me or something. Oh wait, one of the two of you (the other random outed as an alt account) literally said that. /s
Yeah, my "alt account" is 4 years older than my "main account". That makes perfect sense. Schizo moment.
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Maybe if people weren't making off the wall bizarre spiteful posts, for literally no fucking reason, or going mega-stalker
All I did was search your user name within this thread. Took me less than a minute to screenshot your posts to expose your bs.

and making up entire fictional fairy tails with like 5 fucking sequels of Cried Wolf like Purple
All I did was screenshot your own posts :KEK: If you are serious about your "fairy tale" claim then don't write fairy tales in your posts. Who knows, someone could use them against you in the future :KEK:
 
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Wlms

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Please, until you graduate past the 2nd grade and can spell your own
I speak 3 different languages you lab-engineered dickhead :LUL:

You've completely failed to even articulate how I'm a shill which was debunked. In fact, you couldn't even dispute the counter argument I threw at you.
I don't need to demonstrate this, because a simple look through your post history on this thread will speak for itself.*



*See here for reference


Again, Bob, fuck off, and just admit you're shilling hard, you'll feel better afterwards :WeSmart:
 
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Arousal

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If you download the latest version of the game that's available here, it's imo obvious why some people fall for this. I would like to see the devs turn this ship around and deliver a good h-game but I don't see that happening. Which is a bummer because there's almost zero games with fetishes (monster/bestiality) and production values (talking strictly about graphics, character design and animations) like this failed project.
Failed? From what perspective? The game has been in Patreon's top earning and steam's top wishlisted rank for quite some time.
 
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I come back months later to laff at whatever the latest Scamlius antic is just to find the regulars still bothering with the local troll :HideThePain:
That guy is not even worth reading and much less replying to.
I've been having a lot of fun with Mad Island, a different thing altogether, but at least, it actually is a game.
Also fuck Maduro.
 
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mugijos95

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A shill is usually a paid actor that has no interest other than money. You get paid for promoting something and that's it. It's someone posing as a fan. A fan however is genuine in that he believes whatever he's a fan of deserves promoting, they do it for free. If you want to be precise about definitions, that is - nowadays shill usually means something like fanboy so there's that.

People do get emotionally invested for many different reasons. Sunk cost is one thing, but there's also a lot of people that genuinely believe in the project, dev, artist or w/e and are willing to pay to see it coming to fruition. These people also tend to form echochambers and nowadays everyone's paranoid. If you like something you're a shill, if you dislike something you're a hater. For a fan of the game this thread might also look somewhat cult-ish from the outside. Simply because you get a lot of social cred here for shitting on the game, the supporters and the devs.

If you download the latest version of the game that's available here, it's imo obvious why some people fall for this. I would like to see the devs turn this ship around and deliver a good h-game but I don't see that happening. Which is a bummer because there's almost zero games with fetishes (monster/bestiality) and production values (talking strictly about graphics, character design and animations) like this failed project.
Agree, considering the average 3D game of this nature lacks the visuals (but ussually have way more "gameplay") I do agree this is pretty much a great hook/bait.

Also noted on the difference between shill and uhmm, fanboy(?), still both cases are pretty bad if you ask me.
 
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Purple_Heart

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I come back months later to laff at whatever the latest Scamlius antic is just to find the regulars still bothering with the local troll :HideThePain:
That guy is not even worth reading and much less replying to.
I've been having a lot of fun with Mad Island, a different thing altogether, but at least, it actually is a game.
Also fuck Maduro.
Is that game even worth playing right now? I've been watching that thread for a while, waiting for it to get a bit more cooked but that version number(0.13) screams "I am incomplete as fuck".
 
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darkdraconis

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Failed? From what perspective? The game has been in Patreon's top earning and steam's top wishlisted rank for quite some time.
Failed as in this game was supposed to be completed like a decade ago. Now it seems their business model is to never actually complete it l. They seem to try and keep holding on to subs as long as they can; I hope it eventually does come out as a finished product for the patrons sake tho
 
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Arousal

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Failed as in this game was supposed to be completed like a decade ago. Now it seems their business model is to never actually complete it l. They seem to try and keep holding on to subs as long as they can; I hope it eventually does come out as a finished product for the patrons sake tho
I really doubt completion of a live service game is good news to either the devs and players. Imagine Respawn announced that Apex Legend is now considered completed and we are moving on to the next game...

I also doubt that the devs think they should complete the game at all, the business model is a success thus far so there's no incentive to risk a change of direction. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of all the porn games that chose a non live service approach didn't make nearly as much money as this one did.

It all boils down to the cold, hard market logic. "Completing a game" sounds fine and dandy, but if the monetary return is unsatisfactory it won't be sustainable (that's why we never hear from some of the best porn game devs such as grimhelm and pixel factory after a couple of releases anymore). This is also supposed to be the reason why they implemented Denuvo.
 
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Nihil5320

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I really doubt completion of a live service game is good news to either the devs and players. Imagine Respawn announced that Apex Legend is now considered completed and we are moving on to the next game...

I also doubt that the devs think they should complete the game at all, the business model is a success thus far so there's no incentive to risk a change of direction. I'm pretty sure 99.9% of all the porn games that chose a non live service approach didn't make nearly as much money as this one did.

It all boils down to the cold, hard market logic. "Completing a game" sounds fine and dandy, but if the monetary return is unsatisfactory it won't be sustainable (that's why we never hear from some of the best porn game devs such as grimhelm and pixel factory after a couple of releases anymore). This is also supposed to be the reason why they implemented Denuvo.
I would just add that these are different definitions of "completed," Apex Legends was feature complete when it released. They may have since added minor features and new content but what they released was a finished product and it being live service refers to continual improvements and additions post-release.

OL is... not that. It may intend on becoming live service in the future but currently it is more akin to indefinitely extended early access. None of the core gameplay functionality is implemented, or even in roadmaps, and it is being advertised based on what it will (supposedly) be in the future rather than what it is now.
 

Arousal

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I would just add that these are different definitions of "completed," Apex Legends was feature complete when it released. They may have since added minor features and new content but what they released was a finished product and it being live service refers to continual improvements and additions post-release.

OL is... not that. It may intend on becoming live service in the future but currently it is more akin to indefinitely extended early access. None of the core gameplay functionality is implemented, or even in roadmaps, and it is being advertised based on what it will (supposedly) be in the future rather than what it is now.
I honestly don't think players (or at least the ones paying for this particular game) really care about the gameplay aspects. At least it's weird to assume that gameplay functionalities are decisive factors for purchasing a porn game.
 

Naila

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I honestly don't think players (or at least the ones paying for this particular game) really care about the gameplay aspects. At least it's weird to assume that gameplay functionalities are decisive factors for purchasing a porn game.
I did. And when I bought it blind, I thought it was an "erotic rogue-lite tactical game" in Early Access. I would have loved to play that.

I was young and naive.^^

And I don't know if I can say whether I really hope that one day it will be. After all, even 7dtd was completed at some point. On the other hand, when I read what people write here who are more familiar with the background of the project than I am...
 

Nihil5320

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I honestly don't think players (or at least the ones paying for this particular game) really care about the gameplay aspects. At least it's weird to assume that gameplay functionalities are decisive factors for purchasing a porn game.
I wouldn't call it the decisive factor, at least it doesn't need to be AAA gameplay, but if you've ever seen users playing Illusion titles on release for example the usual complaint is "there's nothing to do."

You need some kind of gameplay loop to introduce characters, space out and deliver content or users will just burn through your looped 3 second animations in an afternoon and get bored. I don't know if you've played the closed beta but OL suffers from this issue in spades. Once you've seen a few of the animations you've really seen it all and there's nothing left to do.

Although even Illusion titles have more at release than this project does, and those games also support mods which add more content and that this game explicitly doesn't support for fear of piracy.
 
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psycho-pooch

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You could say the same for the majority of indie titles here that are inevitably going to get the abandoned tag one day as all they care about is milking paypigs and circlejerking in discord all day until they are bored of the project, like Maeve's academy or Monster Girl Island.

Was banned just because the lead dev didn't like me and wanted to fuck with me and then cried for the jannies here. Not that I did anything wrong. I don't know how making cute fan art like this and even volunteering to help speed the project along is "hate" but they decided to pretend I wasn't making any sense and here we are with the game still as barebones as ever wanting 3 months per "update" that barely adds anything several years in. Then they wonder why no one wants to buy their game.

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Bro, your art looks fucking cute and hilarious. nicee

even volunteering to help speed the project along
You fool, That's hate speech because helping complete the project is synonymous with no more money going into his pocket. Of course he hates that.
 
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