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mugijos95

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I rarely encounter such a concentrated stream of nonsense in a single video.

First, he attempts to justify the excessively long development time by claiming, "other games do it too, especially VR focused ones". Yet the irony is, this so called "game" isn't even VR focused. Then he has the audacity to label people as ignorant simply for expecting normal development timelines. He even compares this project to Cyberpunk 2077, a very flawed title at launch, but still a real game with actual mechanics and gameplay. The irony could slap him in the face, and he still wouldn't notice.

Second, he argues, "Developing games takes time, and the fewer people working on it, the longer it takes" as if that's some kind of revelation. He either doesn't know (or deliberately ignores) that solo developers have created fully 3D, playable, and genuinely enjoyable games, not just animation viewers. These developers manage every aspect of development themselves, without outsourcing animation teams, designers, or network specialists like Helius does. And yet, they still deliver actual games in a reasonable timeframe. Here are a few examples of such solo developed or small team 3D games:
  • (Possibly made by a couple, but still a tiny team)
If these examples prove that it's possible to make real, interactive games even solo or in very small teams, and on a realistic schedule, then why can't Helius? The answer, ironically, is "blindingly obvious", but he seems unwilling to face it.

The video ends with the statement: "I got more than enough for what I paid for." He's effectively defending what looks like a scam by saying, "Well, I enjoyed being scammed". That closing line alone reveals he has no real defense for the developer's practices. More likely, he made the video to farm engagement and boost his channel's visibility in YouTube's algorithm, rather than offer any meaningful insight.
You know, I couldn't give a better example of that of Bright Memory, as owner of both (the initial and the sequel) I can say that, that exact game makes a good chunk of indie game devs to shame (specially in the adult side, even tho that one isn't). Why that specifically?, for everyone asking that question that doesn't know the backstory of the game development, the dev is a 3D artist that was trying to learn Unreal Engine so he could improve his work, to do so he set to create a simple FPS game using (to my knowledge) his own assets and the game popped out due to how smooth and action packed it was for a novice game dev, so much so that the sequal was actually given more attention and even some sponsorship.

Why is that background so important, because that is a solo dev making AA level game (wich I can testify myself, it almost feel AAA) that didn't had any bullshit on it, it was a purely good game product of passion. This "game" (refering to fallen doll) is none of that, and honestly I've said this before and I'll repeat myself again, but the morons using their dicks instead of their brains forking money to this obvious scheme do deserve to be scammed.

For the rest of us we already know the outcome; the game will remain "beta" for years to come to inevitably lose momentum and get "re-purposed" for helius' next big game.
 

Nihil5320

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I will answer briefly about the main part and emphasize that I am not defending this game specifically, but general criticism

There is a place in the industry for both games full of complex mechanisms and those that almost play themselves. - They should all be assessed within their own framework
If a game is a "clicker", we do not review it in relation to an Action-RPG
And whether a game without a gameplay is still a game is a completely unnecessary discussion about insignificant definitions. After all, for example, Visual Novels are still games, even though they are more often closer to a digital comic book :p
Sure there's a place for games like that, and they should be judged in the context of their respective genres, however this game has been marketed and sold to users at various points as a puzzler, management sim, roguelike, xcom clone, deckbuilder and more recently some kind of vague async multiplayer monstrosity. That's why people are criticising it for lacking any such features.

Not to mention the campaign/story mode which Helius for years alternated between having completely written, done the level design for, recorded all the voice acting etc. and then suddenly it's dropped. Let's be honest if any of that had ever actually been true he'd have been splashing screenshots and teasers left and right so imho I suspect that was outright fraud.

It's also worth noting that even most animation viewers or clickers have some kind of gameplay loop. Those few that don't are generally frameworks for user mods/marketplaces. FD has neither and last time I tried this game the only vaguely gameplay-ish system Helius had implemented was still that FOMO daily [play x animations y times] system.
 

HardcoreCuddler

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There's mods for this?
No, it's not a mod. It's a .blend file with textures for usage blender, a 3D modelling tool that can then be used to create assets for Unreal Engine projects (and other).
Sometimes I wonder how the hell Mustard even made this model. Wonder if they can be ripped right out of the game somehow.
 

werkausburg

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if only people came to their senses & stopped giving scamlius money, they'd probably remove denuvo & might even finally release the full game on steam. I mean how long has the game been "coming soon" on there, 5 years? Jeez
It's a scam, it has a very predatory payment system, they tell you to your face that they will take your money and that you won't own anything and that you just throw your money away supporting the "project" for each new content and update the idiots shell out 35 dollars again plus the characters and cosmetics that are charged separately, it's pathetic.
 
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denism

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No, it's not a mod. It's a .blend file with textures for usage blender, a 3D modelling tool that can then be used to create assets for Unreal Engine projects (and other).
Sometimes I wonder how the hell Mustard even made this model. Wonder if they can be ripped right out of the game somehow.
ask 4chan or look for the keys to this stupid game. Do you only need this character?
 

HardcoreCuddler

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Can i ask where did you got those 3d models of the game? i really want this 3 chick, i even willing to port them to daz3d if i can.
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I said already man...From Mustard's Patreon...
all you need to donate is $1.5 and you can get the any model, but I'm not sure if those ones are available.
As for the Shaggai one, I have no goddamn clue where I got it from but if you want it I can share it. I'm assuming you don't want that one.
 
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ThreeLeggedMan

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I said already man...From Mustard's Patreon...
all you need to donate is $1.5 and you can get the any model, but I'm not sure if those ones are available.
As for the Shaggai one, I have no goddamn clue where I got it from but if you want it I can share it. I'm assuming you don't want that one.
Hey thanks. I get the Celia and Anya from game files only the last one Talon left, do you have it?
 

Rz85

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I still don't understand this. The game is a demo, right? But they're asking for $35 for a key, and then you have to pay for the characters in-game. If so, it's a scam.
There is no demo (and never was). You have to pay for "privilege" being alpha tester to Scamlius and pay more just not to grind every day.
Some even having masochistic pleasure in it and even defend this scam and have a nerve to lecture people who disagree with them. and are trying to warn the others.
 

Purple_Heart

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I still don't understand this. The game is a demo, right? But they're asking for $35 for a key, and then you have to pay for the characters in-game. If so, it's a scam.
It's a gacha game, which means you can unlock characters without spending money, but be prepared for a very time consuming grind if you choose to go the "free-to-play" route, especially if you're new to the genre.
 
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