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Iexist

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I guess I phrased myself poorly. I didn’t mean that “hard” games are bad—in fact, the harder it is to stop NTR, the better the payoff. I actually like that. What I meant was “skill-based” gameplay specifically.


For example, Leane is one of my favorite games. The way its story and gameplay blend is great—it shows you how strong and helpless you are at the same time. That’s an excellent way to do NTR, and sadly, there aren’t many games like it.


When I say “serious” games, I mean you can't play a Titanfall-style game the same way you play an RPG Maker game, a Leane-type game, or something like Fire Emblem (not sure what genre that falls under exactly). I don’t know how others usually play H-games, but I mostly play while lying down, using only my mouse (I’ve got extra buttons, so I rarely touch the keyboard).


You can still play something like Seed of the Dead at your own pace. What I’m getting at is this: the challenging part of an H-game should be the strategy or tactics—something that makes you think—not a test of your reflexes or FPS skills.


That’s just my take. It’s not about “hard” vs. “easy,” it’s about the style of gameplay.


And to be clear, I’m not against FPS in H-games. There was this Japanese NTR FPS—kind of horror-ish? You explored a hotel and heard lewd sounds behind doors, and peeking through them was a pretty cool experience. So I’m totally open to NTR FPS, just not that kind.


I played BBQ’s FPS demo around a year ago, and honestly, it was awful. I get that it was early in development, but I’m talking about the gameplay itself—not bugs or polish. It just didn’t feel right.
Ah, I understand what you're trying to say there. I play most of my H-games in the same way after all and prefer games with full mouse support. Hell, I don't play FPS games normally... (Though I did finish TitanFall 2 due to... circumstances... man I hated the whole time section thing...)

Ahem.

I still think there's merit in H-games being reflex based too, so to speak, if only for the sake of variety. Alien Quest Eve, Night of Revenge (The succubus fight... ugh...), Holy Knight Ricca (that damn jump for that one skill man...) are all proof that this sort of thing can be very popular, even if it makes it harder to enjoy the H-stuff. In truth, for a lot of those types of games, you end up doing it in the gallery rather than part of the gameplay... but there's still a certain... satisfaction to earning it all.

As such, I don't think attempting a skill based H-FPS with Titanfall-esque movement and whatnot is a bad idea in and of itself. Done right, I could see it being very popular, especially since BBQ intends to mix 3D stuff with 2D art scenes too for the H-stuff.

Whether BBQ can actually make this game in a way that's actually good... Now that is a whole other conversation...

Personally, I'd have preferred if this game was his primary project, and I'd have preferred if he put in more work into the various mechanics of the game in terms of how you have to manage things to prevent things from happening to blondie. However, the guy is pretty passion driven, so I can't really blame him for making the things he wants to make. If you think about it, most of his games are fairly different from one another in various ways... I suspect that to an extent, experimenting and doing new things are part of his passion... Which I can respect considering that it'd have been much safer financially to either work on a Nebel Expansion as a DLC, or a sequel with expanded mechanics. (Though I'd have definitely loved more Nebel too...)

All the big-name JP studios tend to get there by just doing the same thing over and over again for the most part.
 

Sheppd

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We're all at the point where we realize this isn't going to go well for him, but it still sucks..

Nebel was great if you put the little bit of effort into figuring it out, but people hate gameplay.. It was novel and different, and the mechanics where nowhere near as "Oh my god, it r hards, I heat game!" comments it got.

But this, just isn't...much of anything sadly..
 

Pantavloump

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Reject novelty, return to generic ahh decision from the dev.

But yeah, between constant delays, relatively slow output, mediocre content amount and this game seeming like a generic ntr game there's not much we can look forward to for this.
 
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Sorrow4444

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There should be a save in the provided files in which all scenes are accessible. As for your query, what game version are you using?
yeah i have read that there should be a provided save, but i couldnt find it. I have the last version (i guess) 0.48.1.0 on "details"

Edited: I have been able to dd the link you kindly posted on pixeldrain for the 0.503 ty a lot
 

BilafBlayt

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iirc, everything indicated that the game would be released on feb 2025. And it's july right now. :KEK:

I just hope that BBQ don't rush it like Nebel where they had to cut content.

Btw, I see that they're now can implement this in the game. Still only text and items though, would be nice if there is pictures.
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Where this dev trivia come from?
 

Pantavloump

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by incest how incestous are we talking about here? are they actually blood related?
Mc(the player) is an orphan the girl's family picked up. They grew up together as children, girl later spends some... idk how many years training at the capital away from the player to become a priest.

Not blood related
 

Pantavloump

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New article:

Summary:
Japanese and english version for 0.505 should be releasing before the end of the month(or so BBQ claims but I don't believe him anymore:rolleyes:)
0.6 is scheduled for the end of the month or early September(Expect mid-September at the earliest)
They're working on the game by implementing dungeon maps, battles, game items, puzzles.
0.6 will feature more content in the eastern district, further details will be revealed in the future.

More waiting...
 

Pantavloump

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I guess the 0.4 Update has no new mansion stuff?
The most recent update has a bunch of new mansion stuff if that's what you're wondering about(incluing virginity loss cg), we're in 0.5 now, the mods are a bit late in updating this thread. Catch is 0.5 is only playable in chinese(english version comes at the end of the month). If you feel like it you can find links for the 0.5 demo download in earlier comments.
 
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