Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.06] [JohnAndRich]

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Angmir

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May 29, 2017
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After playing through the whole thing carefully, I have to give some credit to some people that didnt liked the Cops Blackmail storyline. It is indeed very unrealistic, and could certainly be done better.

But if you look on the game - it looks like it was indeed what the Development team had in mind. The prologue monologue shows that this game will be all revolving arround the story of corrupt cops abusing power in some backwater town. And there is nothing wrong with that, or them raping the women while they are at it.

Still it could be done a bit better I believe, while still kipping the cops as evil and dreadfull. With a bit better writing and patience a more convincing way of showing the same thing would be possible. But what is done is done.

What is a bit confusing and weird - the game looks more polished and better written in the areas that arent the main focus of the game it seems like. Normal scenes and dialogues between MC his GF or that whole chellange thing with the football jock were written really nicely. I see how it can look confusing to people.

I wonder if police raping girls will be the main focus of the whole story, or other characters will join the NTRing too. I see principal and your shitty friend are easy bets by this point.

Its really hard game to give a score too. It has potencial - good looking and well written characters, their everyday interactions are good, just the main blackmail plot is done less than idealy to be honest. But this is also the main focus of the game. Thats why it is hard to rate this game.

I dont mean the devs should change the premmise of the game. They want to heavy depressing story of the utterly corrupt and opresive cops shaking the whole town - and it is good enough storyline. But a bit more work on the details of this plot is required. This should be something more exciting and alaborate than simply - you have to obey us, now come back tomorrow for more.

Another update or 2 should give us final answer - if the devs have good idea how they want to proceed with the game. Maybe GFs blackmail scenario will be done a bit better.
 

botc76

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After playing through the whole thing carefully, I have to give some credit to some people that didnt liked the Cops Blackmail storyline. It is indeed very unrealistic, and could certainly be done better.

But if you look on the game - it looks like it was indeed what the Development team had in mind. The prologue monologue shows that this game will be all revolving arround the story of corrupt cops abusing power in some backwater town. And there is nothing wrong with that, or them raping the women while they are at it.

Still it could be done a bit better I believe, while still kipping the cops as evil and dreadfull. With a bit better writing and patience a more convincing way of showing the same thing would be possible. But what is done is done.

What is a bit confusing and weird - the game looks more polished and better written in the areas that arent the main focus of the game it seems like. Normal scenes and dialogues between MC his GF or that whole chellange thing with the football jock were written really nicely. I see how it can look confusing to people.

I wonder if police raping girls will be the main focus of the whole story, or other characters will join the NTRing too. I see principal and your shitty friend are easy bets by this point.

Its really hard game to give a score too. It has potencial - good looking and well written characters, their everyday interactions are good, just the main blackmail plot is done less than idealy to be honest. But this is also the main focus of the game. Thats why it is hard to rate this game.

I dont mean the devs should change the premmise of the game. They want to heavy depressing story of the utterly corrupt and opresive cops shaking the whole town - and it is good enough storyline. But a bit more work on the details of this plot is required. This should be something more exciting and alaborate than simply - you have to obey us, now come back tomorrow for more.

Another update or 2 should give us final answer - if the devs have good idea how they want to proceed with the game. Maybe GFs blackmail scenario will be done a bit better.

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laflare82

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You do know what kind of site this is?
You do know what a game is, if you don't I'll give you a hint, NOT REALITY.
No, the devs should not stop, no they are not on any red line.
If rape/forced isn't a kink you are into then YOU should leave this thread and don't bother with this game anymore.

Live and let live is the motto here. We all have shit we like and shit we don't, but that has got nothing to do with what devs can put in their game or not.

Honestly, I have no clue if you are really that naive or just trolling, but this has been the most ridiculous post I've read for some time here.

FWIW, I don't quite like how the story plays out as well, but the devs never hid where this is going (hint: you can actually find the story this kinetic novel is based on, if you look the devs up) and there are no rules whatsoever here against the depiction of (fictional) rape, there are in fact quite a few games with that kind of content here.

Also, I lmao'ed about you calling anything happening in this kn, to rendered, made-up characters "real" rape.
Come on your a well known user here man yes I understand your points but I've seen you complain on games that have a bs story I get what your saying but lets be coy this is straight bs I always read all your comments because I like a lot of points you make but this is truly one I have to disagree with first time I didnt like one of your comments the setting of the game is the big problem seriously everyone recorded what happened but nothing happened to the cops come on man
 

Angmir

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When i see a Kinetic Visual Novel i expect a good thrilling story that is enjoyable

seeing this is an NTR game even made me happier as it is a kinetic novel so there is no way to avoid it

But then.... i played the game

- Unrealistic story that has no dynamic or character depth

- NO NTR the main scene involved is a forced blowjob bordering rape and there was no build up or excitement and even the MC does not get to see it in when it mattered ( NTR is different from rape like come on )

- lack of choices was fine with me but why build a game if all I'm gonna see is nothing but stupid characters and even stupider NTR situations like seriously

EVERY cop is corrupt and wants to fuck Really ?? is that the amazing story that we should be excited about so much that we even ignore lack of choices ?? if it is an apocalypse game i would say fine but it is a high school centered game wtf

the dev justification of what is going on as ( everyone is corrupt and there is no one resisting it as the cops rule ) is nothing but a proof the dev is really putting no effort in delivering an engaging, realistic story that pulls you in to see what happens next
and since it is a kinetic novel the story should be the strongest point unfortunately it was the weakest

- sex so far NON-existent even tho it is Ch 4
the rape is actually nothing but a forced BJ
- when you build a world and neglect the effect of the NPC's in it ( like everyone took videos and pictures yet there was no consequence ) and the game is kinetic so you only depend on what NPC's are doing you do know you screwed up
yea this game is going nowhere anytime soon
As I wrote - There is nothing wrong in setting up the story in unrealistic scenario with whole town under the yolk of opressive corrupt cops, with everyone beeing corrupted one way or the other.
There are a few movie scenarios like that I believe.
The lack of realism in this way is not a problem - in contrary - it may produce a really interesting scenario, diffrent that most borring identical "high school centered games".

But it was implemented rather poorly. Not enough exposition or more convincing reactions from some of the characters, some actions by the cops were really a bit over the top silly etc.
So the idea is fine - the execution of it could be smoother.
 

botc76

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Come on your a well known user here man yes I understand your points but I've seen you complain on games that have a bs story I get what your saying but lets be coy this is straight bs I always read all your comments because I like a lot of points you make but this is truly one I have to disagree with first time I didnt like one of your comments the setting of the game is the big problem seriously everyone recorded what happened but nothing happened to the cops come on man

Lol. I didn't make a point about the quality of the story at all. My post wasn't about that and neither was the one I was answering to.
There have been many posts complaining about the story and how unrealistic the scenario with the cops is, you will notice I didn't answer a single one of them.

The guy had a problem with games depicting rape and acted as if the devs weren't allowed to have that in their game, that's all I wrote about, I didn't say anything about the quality of the story, nor about how realistic or not it is.
In my opinion the devs like a certain kind of content and they just took a short-cut to get there. It's more a fantasy than a story that is in any way trying to be life-like.
 
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Reading the last 2 pages of comments what I gathered is people are mostly trigerred by the cop doing the rapey stuff,
There are tons of games on this site where the MC behaves like an asshole, I don't think people got as triggerred as this

I know the story is unrealistic and somewhat stupid
but at the end of the day its just Fiction GODDAMNIT
 

exxxe

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Apr 28, 2017
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As I wrote - There is nothing wrong in setting up the story in unrealistic scenario with whole town under the yolk of opressive corrupt cops, with everyone beeing corrupted one way or the other.
There are a few movie scenarios like that I believe.
The lack of realism in this way is not a problem - in contrary - it may produce a really interesting scenario, diffrent that most borring identical "high school centered games".

But it was implemented rather poorly. Not enough exposition or more convincing reactions from some of the characters, some actions by the cops were really a bit over the top silly etc.
So the idea is fine - the execution of it could be smoother.
yea angry rant because seriously that is what took them months to give us was ,,, anyway

This is a kinetic Novel : no choices / no game play

the story is the whole focus and the only thing to be worked on so the story is what must force us to come back and play this game i must be waiting excited for chapter 5 when i'm done with chapter 4 right ?

but as you said there is weak implementation ( very weak actually )

Nothing wrong with corrupt cops ruling a city the problem is that it was given to us in a very basic cliche way and for a kinetic game that is it a fail a big one

like there was no effort in making an exciting story so far not even a fast paced progress one
Mother blackmail the weakest
The GF storyline is typical and so far really boring
lol the most exciting in this game so far was the jog challenge in school and that's it

the main thing the game has to offer is it's story but right now the story so far is well basic , unrealistic and what they claim as NTR is not but rape two complete different kinks

A bad cop frames and molest a women yaay a 12 year old can write that there was no planning/ mystery / build up or even excitement and remember it is kinetic ::((((
 
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exxxe

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Apr 28, 2017
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Japan would disagree with you.

A lot of NTR stuff from Japan is rape.
if the MC is watching and feeling Butt hurt then yes
if the girl is being taken from someone else and raped then yes

here the husband is no show and our MC sees nothing ( only strip search and even that he does not see all of it )

so in this game it is plain rape and is not rape ntr << if it makes sense

anyway i won't tell the devs how to make their game it is not my place
just delivering criticism everyone must play the game and formulate their own opinion about it :)
 

Ibrawar

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You still need to create suspension of disbelief in fantasy. Masterful fantasy writing still has elements that make the viewer immerse in the world. Nonsense plot is not excused by yelling "FANTASY" at critics.
 

Akuniz

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ntr,,, well lets se sash majoririty dont even know what it is. fun n gages ia a gable, right madew,,,, the bich fliped in a point n cut the ntr loser dick. bottom line, cool as its a game, ty as real life, but guyes some idiots try real life,
 

DonkeyFace

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Seriously people, you don't think there is such a thing as corrupt cops, or anybody in a position of power abusing that authority? What rock have you been living under? Seems to me many people here are still living a nice cushy, comfortable life under the blissful protection of Mama's bosom, knowing absolutely nothing of the real world out there.

Anyway on another note. Never once have I played a realistic porn game, video game, and have very rarely seen a realistic movie or tv show. Please don't tell me that all the happy little incest harem games are in anyway believable! I find this game far more creative and realistic than that overused silly junk. But I don't think that most of the complaints have anything to do with realism anyway, I think most of it is people despising the kinks herein and thus shitting all over the story. Apparently unable to read tags, as well as differentiate between fiction & reality. There is no real person being abused here. Good Grief!!! I am fully convinced that some people just have whining and complaining as a full time hobby, and thus play games like this in order to traumatize themselves into having a full on hissy fit.

Can those of us who enjoy these kind of games and kinks do so in relative peace, without the constant trolling from all the Vanilla folks? It happens in every single thread with NTR and or blackmailing etc. I am so sick of it. It's is just non stop selfishness. I notice some of the same people that complain about these kinks in every game thread that these kinks exist in, will throw an absolute fit and go berserk if these kinks are even mentioned in their precious game threads. Such HYPOCRISY! Please just stay where you feel nice, safe, comfy and warm. Maybe find a new hobby, watch some sesame street, play a little tic tac toe, or have another sip of mothers milk.

I apologize to the mods if I have taken this too far, but I have been on this forum for about a year and half and I always try my damnedest to keep quiet, but this kind of behavior is wearing me down. I mean who wants to hear supposed adults incessantly whining about game content over and over and over. I'd rather sit in room of crying infants 24/7. At least they have an excuse. Perhaps this forum needs some additional rules? Because, for many of us here it is a very unpleasant place for mature intelligent game discussion.

@JohnAndRich, I am Immensely enjoying your project, I find it a very refreshing departure from all the happy harem clones out there. Please continue to captain this ship of fans through these brave and darkened waters. Much Love brothers!
 
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