Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.10] [JohnAndRich]

[Lorenz1]

TLDR; the way this project is promoted, you had assembled a crowd of people who want from it mostly one thing - Becky and mother fucked by cops and MC's friend, more porn, more NTR. They are coming here to see it, and are mostly indulging you by reading the artistic storytelling sections waiting for the good stuff. Thing is? "Good stuff" ain't coming.

You will not hear anything good about your art and story from people who want "one thing only", cause you are not giving them what they want. And you will not get other people playing the game, because it is barriered by the NTR tags, WARNING NTR on the first page, and impression of the "more porn, more NTR" made by the images on the first page and reputation of the f95zone. People who might enjoy your art are not going to even open this thread.

If you want my advice - stop coming to f95 for now, people who read this thread now are not the people you are trying to attract. Better yet, divide the game at A and B as separate projects, and remove "ntr" tags from B entirely, since it is not going to happen (as obvious now). Promote it like a normal, non-ntr heroic version of the game, treat it like a blank slate, and get the crown of people who appreciate this kind of things. Create another thread for it. Stay there.

If you want to keep this thread happy, throw a bone of "never happened" scenes - Becky gets raped, heavy NTR, etc. That's how you get platitude from the audience currently playing your game in this thread.

 

[Pi Quantum]

If you want to keep this thread happy, throw a bone of "never happened" scenes - Becky gets raped, heavy NTR, etc. That's how you get platitude from the audience currently playing your game in this thread.

Another option might be to add in a series of '10 years later' slides (one pic with explanatory text), showing what might have happened after the published endings.

Will Carl become the next Bill Gates and propose marriage to Melanie, the love/lust of his life?​

Will Parker find out the truth of his parentage and embark on a new relationship with his possible half-sister?​

Will Melissa's marriage to Richard end after her affair and blackmail sex are made public?​

Would she turn into another Denise after that?​

Will corrupt Parker and Bill eventually push a woman too far with their blackmail and be unexpectedly gunned down?​

Will corrupt Parker partner with Emily or Denise as the madam of a brothel filled with his blackmail victims?​

You could have a lot of fun with these 'what if?' scenarios and customise them to the chosen paths, much like some RPG's, but its still a lot of work.

The sad reality of game design is that no matter what you do, there's always going to be a lot of people upset that their particular fetishes weren't addressed to their satisfaction. Some devs try to satisfy everybody, but usually end up burning out under the extreme workload and plot branches.

IMO, you're doing everything right for a new game dev. You started with a solid plot outline and are willing to stick with it to the end. You're happy to hear feedback and ideas from players that you can incorporate into that, but not to the stage where feedback from the noisiest players drives plot development and destroys believability. Finishing the game and leaving a subset of players happy will still put FF&S in the top 5% of games on this site. Whether that's enough for you to subject yourself to more of this in the future is your decision.

 

[Nemesiz691]

What's new with mc sister? Melanie?

 

[NTRMANx2]

Becky she have a chance of being fucked by another guy or NTR?

 

[Kukipett]

In the beginning the story seemed to be good, but when we arrive in the part where the police is arresting the mother for whatever reason and nobody protests, the story totally lost any credibility.
Ok the dev wanted to really start the crap after a long prologue where not much happens, i get it but it seemed so forced and over the top that i just stopped to play.
Does the writing get any better later or is it always the same unreal situation in a totally fucked up town where the law and regulations don't exist at all?
Is this happening in some banana republic where citizens are some kind of slaves or morons?

 

[Avaron1974]

Becky she have a chance of being fucked by another guy or NTR?

Probably not.

 

[Wobbly1980]

I didnt like this game at first, but its ever so slowly grown on me and have crept into one of my top ten liked games.

 

[Mwanted]

Becky she have a chance of being fucked by another guy or NTR?

Never gonna happen, unfortunately.
This game had a really good start and an interesting setting (I love the school one) and of course the possible path of Becky cheating has been one of the most requested since the start of the project, even I asked for it like 2 years ago and as of now there's nothing. So guess what you can expect. On the same setting I suggest "Misfits", it has really good potential.

 

[akiostein]

Love this game. if one day there is a torture scene. Good game.

 

[desmosome]

God damn... I don't often say this for NTR stories, but I really want the MC to prevail. That court scene was like a fist pump worthy situation. But that disclaimer at the end .

I think it's just the extremely grounded way the story is being told that makes me root for this underdog. Actually, I don't think this is NTR (or at least it doesn't follow any NTR convensions). It's more of a fucked up police corruption story. That might be why I am able to root for Parker on the B route. In the tropey NTR games, I'm all for the females getting mind broken and the male protag getting fucked over.

 

[corxo]

The last episode just published, the truth has been unexpected, this turn of the story, can become a genius in later chapters or not... I trust Rick, the truth is that his work is one of the best on this website (possibly the best for me), I certainly expected something darker, but I don't lose faith in future chapters, or at least that is understood at the end of the episode with that text.

Anyway, another wait... I understand that it's normal this takes time, things don't happen on their own and require an effort, deep down what has been a few years for us, in the story we've only had about 12 chapters, no I know the total chapters, but like it or not, the story is taking the time it needs to work.

Good luck Rick, I'm sure you knew this episode was going to be controversial, and yet you've been brave and faithful to your ideas.

And one question, will the next episode be A or B? At first I'm very B, but I recognize that A is convincing me, finally thanks for your work and time.

(I hope that the Google translator has done its job well and that I am well understood)

 

[desmosome]

No offense, but I don't feel I "owe" this site a blow-by-blow (no pun intended) description of the content of each update. Particularly when the update was posted here before it was released to all of my subscribers.

Had you looked at the previous changelog descriptions (i.e. "added chapter x") you'd have realized that there's a pattern there. So, expecting anything other than that is, IMHO, completely and utterly stupid. And, based on my experience here, which go back rather farther than yours, very few dev's give you a plot summary in the changelog. It's mostly "updates to <pick a character> path, NNN new renders." So, there was nothing "inaccurate" about the changelog. The fact that you didn't see what you wanted there is not my fault.

Look, folks. I'm telling the story I want to tell. I've said this over and over in this thread - not that newbies ever bother to read old posts. If you're taking advantage of the pirate nature of this site in order to "play" the story without contributing towards its development, you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to bitch about how the story proceeds or doesn't proceed, or whine (yes, "whine") about the content you were looking for not showing up. And if you are contributing (thanks, L.Lumpy) and don't like where I'm taking it, you're completely free to stop supporting it.

Those of you who have never tried to develop a game (or a story, since I don't consider this a game) have absolutely zero idea how much of a time commitment it is, or how much the "I didn't get the content I wanted, so this game sucks" posts wear on a developer. There is a reason why so many games get to an 0.2 or 0.3 and then get abandoned. And a big piece if it is facing you in the mirror.

OK, I feel a little better now. But it's the same thing over and over and over and over again. I put out a release, and 90% of the comments here are negative. It sucks. I have vowed that I am going to finish this project, but (a) you folks - well, most of you - are making that VERY hard, and (b) I'm thinking that I'll be damned if I subject myself to this again with a subsequent game/project/whatever. It... just... isn't... worth... it!

I'm glad you are around, especially since you help out many other devs with coding issues (I think). As far as interacting the the many troglodytes on this site, I don't wish that on any dev lol.

It comes down to possible supporter gains via community engagement vs keeping your sanity. It will depend on each dev, but unless maximizing profits is the ultimate goal, just ignoring the game thread might be healthier for most devs, tbh.

 

[Pi Quantum]

God damn... I don't often say this for NTR stories, but I really want the MC to prevail. That court scene was like a fist pump worthy situation. But that disclaimer at the end .

Having just played through it myself, hell yeah! Rich loves screwing with our preconceptions, so he's now got me sympathising with Emily after wanting to see Mrs Vandermeer go down, which is a complete reversal of my original feelings. I share your fears about the disclaimer, because if Parker wins, who loses? Is his relationship with Becky gone forever, or is Emily's new-found trust in males about to be irrevocably shattered - with her wanting revenge on both? Can he convince both girls to join a harem?!

Parker is a most unusual teen if he can distinguish between porno and real life, making that the best line of the update for me - although the ones about the man-hating prosecutor came close.

 

[Derek Wildstsar]

I apologize if this was already answered here, but I did try looking for the answer myself, before asking: is there content, or intent of content, of sexual stuff happening between MC and his mom?

 

[Avaron1974]

I apologize if this was already answered here, but I did try looking for the answer myself, before asking: is there content, or intent of content, of sexual stuff happening between MC and his mom?

No.

 

[Derek Wildstsar]

No.

Thank you.
Sad, but thank you.

 

[401Grem]

Not sure if I'm getting right downloads, but not seeing any further play from last update?

 

[Davewatch]

Well same thing over and over and over and over again KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I for one will be VERY sad when it does finally reach its conclusion. I hope it is a long way off. Yes I am purely selfish.

 

[bobbyzzz]

do we see the mom have sex in this update? Also, I know this might not be the right thread, but do you guys know any other good games where we can see the mom or other older women have sex with others?

 

[clowns234]

do we see the mom have sex in this update? Also, I know this might not be the right thread, but do you guys know any other good games where we can see the mom or other older women have sex with others?

Search for any game that has the 'milf' tag.