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Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.10] [JohnAndRich]

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I don't understand a game with a title starting with "family" that doesn't involve incest .
The game seems interesting; I will wait for the incest tag to download and give it a try. Thanks.
That's exactly what hooked me at first, and then I found out there wasn't any family action.
Feel a bit fooled.
Shame, really looks nice.
 
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uhhhh if no incest tag there won't be incest unless the dev says its going to be a thing. How do you get hooked? Did you not read the tag list?
Well, it says "Family" like, in the name... :)
But I seriously recall it having an incest tag years ago (I may be wrong), and I definitely saw other games that didn't have the tag but had incest patches. And that's WITHOUT having "Family" in the title.
 
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Well, it says "Family" like, in the name... :)
But I seriously recall it having an incest tag years ago (I may be wrong)
No, there has never been incest anywhere in this game and tags are being set either by the OP poster or forum staff, so they are often wrong and go against what the author has said and confirmed.

But you might be confusing the main game with the Scenes That Didn't Happen.

... and I definitely saw other games that didn't have the tag but had incest patches. And that's WITHOUT having "Family" in the title.
Sometimes the word is just a word, without double meanings or winking. Definitely not a "misleading advertisement", but a descriptive word for the actual set of characters in the game.
 
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I don't understand a game with a title starting with "family" that doesn't involve incest .
The game seems interesting; I will wait for the incest tag to download and give it a try. Thanks.
Perhaps you should consider the fact that a good portion of the game surrounds the cops and their victims. This was particularly the case when JohnCBB and I started the project, although things have drifted away from that somewhat over the years I've been working on it alone.

Now, let's see, who did the cops go after or threaten to go after?

They included Parker's...
mother,
best friend and girlfriend,
and people he doesn't know.

Maybe that explains the title?
 

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Perhaps you should consider the fact that a good portion of the game surrounds the cops and their victims. This was particularly the case when JohnCBB and I started the project, although things have drifted away from that somewhat over the years I've been working on it alone.

Now, let's see, who did the cops go after or threaten to go after?

They included Parker's...
mother,
best friend and girlfriend,
and people he doesn't know.

Maybe that explains the title?
That does explain your thinking at the time quite well. But you have to admit that not everyone is privy to your thought process, and could easily misunderstand the title, even after starting the game.

Whatever the title, I enjoy what you have provided for us.
 

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That does explain your thinking at the time quite well. But you have to admit that not everyone is privy to your thought process, and could easily misunderstand the title, even after starting the game.
Yes, if you're the type of person who desperately looks for incest in every project you play.

It just gets tiring going through the same set of "why doesn't this project have A, why doesn't this project have B, when is X going to Y" over and over and over again from people who don't look at the tags, don't read the FAQ in the OP, etc., etc., etc.
 

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That does explain your thinking at the time quite well. But you have to admit that not everyone is privy to your thought process, and could easily misunderstand the title, even after starting the game.

Whatever the title, I enjoy what you have provided for us.
I honestly don't give an F what you think of the title. The game is awesome, that it isn't perfectly in line with what you want? Get bent.
 

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Perhaps you should consider the fact that a good portion of the game surrounds the cops and their victims. This was particularly the case when JohnCBB and I started the project, although things have drifted away from that somewhat over the years I've been working on it alone.

Now, let's see, who did the cops go after or threaten to go after?

They included Parker's...
mother,
best friend and girlfriend,
and people he doesn't know.

Maybe that explains the title?
I read the original story, you definitely deviated away from that ending! Your story is much better.
 

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Yes, if you're the type of person who desperately looks for incest in every project you play.

It just gets tiring going through the same set of "why doesn't this project have A, why doesn't this project have B, when is X going to Y" over and over and over again from people who don't look at the tags, don't read the FAQ in the OP, etc., etc., etc.
Here's a paradox for you: I love incest games, I love your game.

Please don't lump me in with those who despair because there is no incest in your game. I was just trying to give an explanation of why some were disappointed about the complete lack of incest, and why they might have thought there would be.

As for tags, I can point to countless games where fetishes were added to games, when the tags for them were not there. Especially when one considers F95's tag rules which insist that tags only apply to what is in the game NOW.

At any rate, I don't wish to continue arguing with a developer whose game I like.

Peace.
 

Walter Victor

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I honestly don't give an F what you think of the title. The game is awesome, that it isn't perfectly in line with what you want? Get bent.
How on earth did you get that out of what I posted? As a matter of fact, I like this game a lot in its current form and look forward to each new release.

Perhaps a reading comprehension course might be in order for you.
 

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I honestly don't give an F what you think of the title. The game is awesome, that it isn't perfectly in line with what you want? Get bent.
Please keep the discussion here civil. (And thanks for the "awesome.")
 
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I read the original story, you definitely deviated away from that ending! Your story is much better.
Glad you're enjoying it.

From the beginning, JohnCBB and I had no intention of simply recreating his Literotica text. This was always intended to be a "based on," but to go in a different direction. Much of the story arc that's not yet complete was based on where John wanted to go (although I've added a lot). The other arc was much more "me."
 

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Here's a paradox for you: I love incest games, I love your game.

Please don't lump me in with those who despair because there is no incest in your game. I was just trying to give an explanation of why some were disappointed about the complete lack of incest, and why they might have thought there would be.

As for tags, I can point to countless games where fetishes were added to games, when the tags for them were not there. Especially when one considers F95's tag rules which insist that tags only apply to what is in the game NOW.

At any rate, I don't wish to continue arguing with a developer whose game I like.

Peace.
I don't consider that a paradox - you can love apples and also love oranges. You don't have to be a one-fruit person. But there are a lot of people who take the "if it doesn't have apples, it's crap" point of view, and dump all over developers who decide not to include red fruit. I'm sure that you understand that, as someone who's trying to tell the story he wants to tell, it can get wearing at times.

Your point about tags is well taken, of course. On the other hand, the number of people who ignore them and the content of the OP is staggering. I hate to think how many times in this thread people complained that there were no choices, or asked whether they could avoid choices, when the OP clearly stated that the project was a kinetic novel. Hence some of the snarkiness that's now built into the OP. LOL

And, apologies. I probably shouldn't have come across as harshly as my response probably did - I was having a bad day, and kind of snapped. "I'm better now." :D
 

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I have been with this game for a while and have subbed on an off. I was thrilled to see it updated - and subbed again to get it. It appears to be at a crossroads in the story and not sure where the Dev is going to take it now. It seems ripe for some girlfriend revenge cheating or possibly getting looped into the scam with the police unbeknownst to the MC. That would be quite...titillating and karma for the MC who is a bit of a wanker. But I digest...it is the Dev's vision. Just interested to see where it goes from here.
 
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