Ren'Py Family, Friends and Strangers [v2024.10] [JohnAndRich]

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Rich

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I will join and support at highest tier if you create a branch where son blackmails and corrupts mother...
No offense, but...

A quick search shows that you've made this identical request at least 8 times in this thread.

Your request has been heard (and heard and heard). You do not need to repeat it again.
 

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No offense, but...

A quick search shows that you've made this identical request at least 8 times in this thread.

Your request has been heard (and heard and heard). You do not need to repeat it again.
Thats the last thing this game needs is mother / son incest. Please make it optional if you add it.
 
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Thats the last thing this game needs is mother / son incest. Please make it optional if you add it.
In the original story this game was started from, that is what it was all about, and how it ended. Of course, he's going his own direction with this but...
 

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In the original story this game was started from, that is what it was all about, and how it ended. Of course, he's going his own direction with this but...
I understand people have difference interests but I appreciate games like this one where most of the more taboo stuff is optional.
 

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The main reason many of us got into this game was this! The relationship between the son and his mother! This is our secret desire! The blackmail of the mother by her son

Indeed. By the way and don't blame me Rich, but I like much more the FFSDH. By the way have you ever thought about a third route of the FF&S... with more blackmail and aggresive scenes?
 
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No offense, but...

A quick search shows that you've made this identical request at least 8 times in this thread.

Your request has been heard (and heard and heard). You do not need to repeat it again.
A quick review of things and, well, I'm not the only one. Please consider your target audience and this project could become a lot more than a hobby...if you wanted.
 

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A quick review of things and, well, I'm not the only one. Please consider your target audience and this project could become a lot more than a hobby...if you wanted.
If you think that Rich isn't smart enough to know this or that you're the first one to try to convince him, please read the FAQ in the OP of this thread. He made that section specifically so he wouldn't have to answer to each of these bright ideas dropped into this thread every time.
And he gets quite annoyed for being expected to answer to these endlessly repeating questions and requests. I don't really blame him. And he might get snarky about it :sneaky: , as would I.

He started the STDH project specifically to take this kind of requests and fulfill at least some of the most popular ones.
 
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Rich

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A quick review of things and, well, I'm not the only one. Please consider your target audience and this project could become a lot more than a hobby...if you wanted.
No, of course you're not the only one. That was exactly my point in the post your responded to - the same requests have been made over and over again. And my response has been consistent - that JohnCBB and I started off telling the story that we wanted to tell, and that, even after his departure, I've continued with that story.

As to the "a lot more than a hobby" comment, I have to respectfully say that I consider that to be... how shall I say this nicely? Let's go with "unsubstantiated speculation." Despite all the baying at the moon for certain types of content, when I introduced STDH and started providing that content, my number of patrons/subscribers only marginally increased. So, I'd have to say that the available evidence disagrees with your assertion.

Regardless of what I add to the story, the vast majority of the people who frequent this thread are going to continue to wait for someone else to post their copy instead of subscribing. It's a pirate site, after all, right? The odds of me attracting the kind of audience that DarkCookie or MrDots have are essentially zero.

So, without meaning insult, you too can join the long list of people to whom I say "Yes, I've heard the request. If you don't like the content, best of luck in finding other projects that suit you better."
 

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Indeed. By the way and don't blame me Rich, but I like much more the FFSDH. By the way have you ever thought about a third route of the FF&S... with more blackmail and aggresive scenes?
That's the reason I started STDH - because there were people who were looking for content that didn't "fit" with the main story line I was intending to tell, and I figured I'd see what the reaction to some of "that type of content" was.

As to going back and reworking FFS into a different story arc, well, it's an idea, but I don't know if it's a good one. The type of content you're talking about is very... "niche." This whole project was intended to be somewhat niche from the beginning, of course, but I'm honestly not sure whether the time and effort of going back and reworking 80% of the content is something that I'm up for.

I've been working on this project for over 6 years now. (It's very much a "nights and weekends" deal, with "real life" regularly interrupting.) I haven't yet decided whether I want to try to do something else in "this universe" when I bring FF&S to a close, whether I want to tackle something in another direction, or whether I want to focus on something other than adult VN's. So by "good idea," I mean "good idea for me, given where I am right now."

More thought to be given on the matter, to be sure.
 

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To add to the above, I hasten to say that I really, really appreciate the support I've gotten from this community. You're a great group of people, and I wouldn't have gotten as far as I have with FFS and STDH without the encouragement I've gotten here.
 

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That's the reason I started STDH - because there were people who were looking for content that didn't "fit" with the main story line I was intending to tell, and I figured I'd see what the reaction to some of "that type of content" was.

As to going back and reworking FFS into a different story arc, well, it's an idea, but I don't know if it's a good one. The type of content you're talking about is very... "niche." This whole project was intended to be somewhat niche from the beginning, of course, but I'm honestly not sure whether the time and effort of going back and reworking 80% of the content is something that I'm up for.

I've been working on this project for over 6 years now. (It's very much a "nights and weekends" deal, with "real life" regularly interrupting.) I haven't yet decided whether I want to try to do something else in "this universe" when I bring FF&S to a close, whether I want to tackle something in another direction, or whether I want to focus on something other than adult VN's. So by "good idea," I mean "good idea for me, given where I am right now."

More thought to be given on the matter, to be sure.

Because this story has very big potentials... I will vote not to make a new one but instead to create a third route. Anyway, I wish you Merry Christmas.
 

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No, of course you're not the only one. That was exactly my point in the post your responded to - the same requests have been made over and over again. And my response has been consistent - that JohnCBB and I started off telling the story that we wanted to tell, and that, even after his departure, I've continued with that story.

As to the "a lot more than a hobby" comment, I have to respectfully say that I consider that to be... how shall I say this nicely? Let's go with "unsubstantiated speculation." Despite all the baying at the moon for certain types of content, when I introduced STDH and started providing that content, my number of patrons/subscribers only marginally increased. So, I'd have to say that the available evidence disagrees with your assertion.

Regardless of what I add to the story, the vast majority of the people who frequent this thread are going to continue to wait for someone else to post their copy instead of subscribing. It's a pirate site, after all, right? The odds of me attracting the kind of audience that DarkCookie or MrDots have are essentially zero.

So, without meaning insult, you too can join the long list of people to whom I say "Yes, I've heard the request. If you don't like the content, best of luck in finding other projects that suit you better."
You have consistently rejected that type of content so, yes, most players have avoided this project altogether. If you were to consistently demonstrate game development into that direction I firmly believe your numbers would uptick considerably. Those taboo genres capture the largest audience and incest specifically is present in the Top 5 games on this board (Top 7/10 by Likes, Top 5 by Views, and Top 4/9 by Weighted Rating). A single update probably won't garner that fan base but consistently devoting production time and script/story development absolutely would as the original literotica story/theme is a well-established fan favorite.

Consider making a Path C when you're done current Path and you'll see what I mean. It will greatly extend the life of this game and definitely expand the width of your wallet.
 
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