Unity Abandoned Fantasy Strip Poker and Blackjack [v0.9] [Motor Wizard]

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jryn

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Why is there money? Why is there a 50coin limit? The AI is so rigged that unless you win your first hand every time the lead only widens for the AI until you lose, or becomes an endless stalemate when she pushes you 95% of the time when you get a blackjack. (3 black jacks in a row and she pushes me every time) so having the limit be whatever she has makes the game faster and not this endless AI ramp up/stalemate.

I managed to "beat" the game, I quote beat because she drew 22 in 6 cards but drew the 7th card which would have put her at a double loss... and bugged the game (she said she would do a dance for me if i beat her in this round) after an hour of play and resetting every time she gained a lead I deleted this pile of garbage that you call a game because it is not a game, it is an RNG simulator worse than black desert online and early 2000's korean mmos.
 

lagaard

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Why is there money? Why is there a 50coin limit? The AI is so rigged that unless you win your first hand every time the lead only widens for the AI until you lose, or becomes an endless stalemate when she pushes you 95% of the time when you get a blackjack. (3 black jacks in a row and she pushes me every time) so having the limit be whatever she has makes the game faster and not this endless AI ramp up/stalemate.

I managed to "beat" the game, I quote beat because she drew 22 in 6 cards but drew the 7th card which would have put her at a double loss... and bugged the game (she said she would do a dance for me if i beat her in this round) after an hour of play and resetting every time she gained a lead I deleted this pile of garbage that you call a game because it is not a game, it is an RNG simulator worse than black desert online and early 2000's korean mmos.
I did kind of talk about the 'making the player lose harder' in my own thoughts earlier. I'm not sure if the dev saw that post or not though... if there's money in a strip game, I feel it needs to just keep the pool between the players, since otherwise it just makes trying to win if you start losing harder and harder. So instead of the 50 coins just materalilzing out of thin air, the clothing value should come out of the winner's pool.
 

HDriver

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Why is there money? Why is there a 50coin limit? The AI is so rigged that unless you win your first hand every time the lead only widens for the AI until you lose, or becomes an endless stalemate when she pushes you 95% of the time when you get a blackjack. (3 black jacks in a row and she pushes me every time) so having the limit be whatever she has makes the game faster and not this endless AI ramp up/stalemate.

I managed to "beat" the game, I quote beat because she drew 22 in 6 cards but drew the 7th card which would have put her at a double loss... and bugged the game (she said she would do a dance for me if i beat her in this round) after an hour of play and resetting every time she gained a lead I deleted this pile of garbage that you call a game because it is not a game, it is an RNG simulator worse than black desert online and early 2000's korean mmos.
I did kind of talk about the 'making the player lose harder' in my own thoughts earlier. I'm not sure if the dev saw that post or not though... if there's money in a strip game, I feel it needs to just keep the pool between the players, since otherwise it just makes trying to win if you start losing harder and harder. So instead of the 50 coins just materalilzing out of thin air, the clothing value should come out of the winner's pool.
Some bugs (likes the one encountered by jyrn) will be fixed in the patched version I will release hopefully this weekend.

However. The idea behind a gambling game is....gambling. You win some, then you lose much more, then you want to quit and after you win again. This emotions are what people seek in gambling....plus the cash. And Black Jack is pure gambling. The poker gameplay will be different, because winning depends on complex strategies.

I could implement a tic-tac-toe, or paper-rock-scissors, or truth-or-dare, or just a button with the word 'Strip' on it. But the player will finish the game in 5 min without any satisfaction.

The RNG isn't broken. The patched version will allow you to see the order of the cards in the deck and you can judge for yourself. To put it simple, it's an array of 52 numbers which have to be as random as possible.
 
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vader667

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nice animations, but like others already said: AI has good cards FAR too often.
you should change that. or give us an option like easy/hard/WeCheatALotUltraHard ;)
 
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rxd

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Thank you. I presume you lost....
i thought games were suppoed to entertain ppl not upset and annoy whoever plays it, why? why would genius like you think using a perfect AI is a good idea? ppl make mistakes but AI dont, that's the difference, do you expect your opponents to always be that perfect? wanna know how many times i lost?
 
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lagaard

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Some bugs (likes the one encountered by jyrn) will be fixed in the patched version I will release hopefully this weekend.

However. The idea behind a gambling game is....gambling. You win some, then you lose much more, then you want to quit and after you win again. This emotions are what people seek in gambling....plus the cash. And Black Jack is pure gambling. The poker gameplay will be different, because winning depends on complex strategies.

I could implement a tic-tac-toe, or paper-rock-scissors, or truth-or-dare, or just a button with the word 'Strip' on it. But the player will finish the game in 5 min without any satisfaction.

The RNG isn't broken. The patched version will allow you to see the order of the cards in the deck and you can judge for yourself. To put it simple, it's an array of 52 numbers which have to be as random as possible.
I suppose I would argue that when the gambling game becomes 'Strip' variants, the point of the game shifts from the exchanging of money, to the exchanging of clothes. Money could be used to help lengthen the game, but I think for Strip Blackjack, the primary concern of both parties (or all parties) is the removal of clothes - not to try and fatten their bank account.

At least in games. Maybe in real life, but I'd figure in a game the point is you want to get the opponent(s) undressed before they can do the same to you. It reminds me a bit of Valkyrie's Strip Poker, where the AI was TOO good and it can take literally HOURS to get anywhere, which just isn't any fun. A strip game should focus more on the fun part, the stripping, and if you want to lengthen the game, make it so money is much smaller.

Focus on the interaction between the player and the opponent(s). I mean in the demo, there's an interesting set up about a schoolgirl going to detention it seems. Which then sets up wondering what is the scenario? Is the player some kind of teacher at the detention? A fellow student? Stuff like that sets the mood and can build the dialogue, which can help make the game enjoyable.
 

HDriver

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i thought games were suppoed to entertain ppl not upset and annoy whoever plays it, why? why would genius like you think using a perfect AI is a good idea? ppl make mistakes but AI dont, that's the difference, do you expect your opponents to always be that perfect? wanna know how many times i lost?
Dude, WTF? Chill, it's just a game. I will upload a patched version of the game in a few days. One of the features will be the viewing of the deck. So you can judge for yourself if the deck is rigged or not
 

Hammertime1337

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Aug 22, 2018
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also do you how many more 21 she's got than i have? and you're telling me ur algorithm is flawless? oh yeah too flawless to beat i guess.
Mate chill, it's literally the first release. If you're so upset about a hobby game dev not releasing a perfect first version of their game, then you're really beyond help. I think he did a great job for a first version, now it just needs finetuning and testing (which he will get with people playing it)... And of course more content after that.
 
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R3x0n

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This is Smooth AF, for real
Yeah, I suck at card games that's for sure, but you Sir managed to motivate myself to cheat this ******* game and search for a prog which can read and edit .dll files. :ROFLMAO:o_O
I no longer can say this kind of games aren't educational...
 

HDriver

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I suppose I would argue that when the gambling game becomes 'Strip' variants, the point of the game shifts from the exchanging of money, to the exchanging of clothes. Money could be used to help lengthen the game, but I think for Strip Blackjack, the primary concern of both parties (or all parties) is the removal of clothes - not to try and fatten their bank account.

At least in games. Maybe in real life, but I'd figure in a game the point is you want to get the opponent(s) undressed before they can do the same to you. It reminds me a bit of Valkyrie's Strip Poker, where the AI was TOO good and it can take literally HOURS to get anywhere, which just isn't any fun. A strip game should focus more on the fun part, the stripping, and if you want to lengthen the game, make it so money is much smaller.

Focus on the interaction between the player and the opponent(s). I mean in the demo, there's an interesting set up about a schoolgirl going to detention it seems. Which then sets up wondering what is the scenario? Is the player some kind of teacher at the detention? A fellow student? Stuff like that sets the mood and can build the dialogue, which can help make the game enjoyable.
I can agree with you in some aspects. Mainly that a game should be fun to play. However, please keep in mind that this game has no AI. You lose or win based on your luck.

I focused only on the graphics, and to be honest I was expected bad comments about her feet sliding, artifacts with the shadows of the hair on her face, hair poking through the face, etc.

The game was designed to be a poker. But when I realized what it means to develop a decent poker engine, I implemented Black Jack gameplay because of it's simplicity.

I will try to think of a way to make the player win more easily, but that would mean cheating the player's luck.

There are users who managed to strip the girl. Hard, but they did it.

To resume Acebacho's review, BlackJack is a PITA.

If it could be won, it could be half fine
The BJ gamplay will remain even in the final release, and until I will finish the poker engine, who wants to gamble shall gamble as it is, or cheat it.
 

HDriver

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Yeah, I suck at card games that's for sure, but you Sir managed to motivate myself to cheat this ******* game and search for a prog which can read and edit .dll files. :ROFLMAO:o_O
I no longer can say this kind of games aren't educational...
I was impressed by the fact you chose that way. As it was stated 1 page behind (I believe), it was a lot more easier to use Cheat Engine
 
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lagaard

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I can agree with you in some aspects. Mainly that a game should be fun to play. However, please keep in mind that this game has no AI. You lose or win based on your luck.

I focused only on the graphics, and to be honest I was expected bad comments about her feet sliding, artifacts with the shadows of the hair on her face, hair poking through the face, etc.

The game was designed to be a poker. But when I realized what it means to develop a decent poker engine, I implemented Black Jack gameplay because of it's simplicity.

I will try to think of a way to make the player win more easily, but that would mean cheating the player's luck.

There are users who managed to strip the girl. Hard, but they did it.

To resume Acebacho's review, BlackJack is a PITA.
That's understandable, I can imagine that making a working poker engine is a lot harder then just a blackjack one.

And while I get it is winning or losing based on luck, that's not an inherently bad thing I think, as long as its made interesting in some regard. I feel a lot of Strip Games nowadays get too tied up in not focusing on the appeal of the genre, which is the entire strip part. I feel if money is involved, it should be fairly minimal and is only really there to make the game last a little longer, but the focus should still be on the strip part.

Right now I think a lot of people are angry at the blackjack part because it "doesn't follow the rules", because when bets are involved and all that, people automatically want it to work like casino blackjack or something. If the game is more upfront that it's about strip blackjack, there could be more leeway involved. After all, if its about the stripping, it might be more reasonable that the opponent isn't exactly going to follow some 'house rules', because she wants to win.

To use Strip Poker Night at the Inventory as an example, while it is a poker game, it doesn't have any clothes at all. Clothing is a minimum of 3 and a max of 8. So while the game is still pretty easy, its enjoyable because of the variety of it - there is a lot of characters, and there is a lot of dialogue to go with it. Characters react to others losing, and it accounts for their current state of dress, and the state of dress of the other. Some even account for losing or winning streaks.

To go again to the scenario given in the demo so far, there is some potential to set up exactly what is going on here, then set the characters. A variety of dialogue to play with how the game unfolds can give a lot of replayability. And while it might be considered 'bad' to reward failure, I don't think its inherently bad to consider some kind of h even if the player loses.

Mind I'm saying all this as the jaded fan of strip games, who is always annoyed at how many strip poker/blackjack games seem to be entirely focused on the exchanging of money, and forget the game is about clothes. For both parties, not just the opponent. You at least have that part right, even if I think the money is a bit too much.
 

HDriver

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To go again to the scenario given in the demo so far, there is some potential to set up exactly what is going on here, then set the characters. A variety of dialogue to play with how the game unfolds can give a lot of replayability. And while it might be considered 'bad' to reward failure, I don't think its inherently bad to consider some kind of h even if the player loses.
I totally agree with you on this part, and this is the way the level is designed. That is the reason of the big filesize. After you strip the girl, a teacher comes in, and after a cutscene you continue playing with her. All the time, if you use the 'change camera cheat', you can explore the level and either find the teacher masturbate in her office when you play with the girl, either find the girl in the toilet screwing some guy when you play with the teacher. All the levels were designed as this: 2 female AIs.

But before doing all this, I would like to see some interest from the people(not necessary financially). But after 4 pages of people complaining and 2 bad reviews, I am thinking to publish the game with just one level, one girl and only BlackJack and then add content as DLC
 
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