Unity Abandoned Fantasy Strip Poker and Blackjack [v0.9] [Motor Wizard]

[lagaard]

I have long been a fan of strip games (Poker/Blackjack/nameit) -- I was curious if you have any you'd recommend. It seems like a dying genre and I take any opportunity to find new stuff in it.

Really the only one I can recommend is Strip Poker Night at the Inventory. It's about the only actively developed 'proper' strip game out there. It uses Kisekae assets, but it has good writing to carry the day.

 

[sniff3005]

Really the only one I can recommend is Strip Poker Night at the Inventory. It's about the only actively developed 'proper' strip game out there. It uses Kisekae assets, but it has good writing to carry the day.

i wish they would make a 3D version of it. man its so good. one of my favs for card strip games.

 

[HDriver]

Your game looks fun but having played through three times and not winning you just have to change the winning percentage for the player to be able to win.
There is no hard in the casino, it is a game of percentages. As I stated the casino has a one percent advantage. If you can figure out how to create those odds no one would complain.

You are right about the 50+1 % chances, however nobody mentions the number of tries. I've spent this weekend running the game on different PCs with different players (the owners ), with the following result: the RNG is done well; the minimum amount of rounds to finish the level was 6 (always on maximum bet) - on 1 PC, ~30min-2H gameplay to win on 3PCs - from which 2 "owners" are good cards players, on one PC the player lost constantly for about 20min, and finally, on the last PC the player got bored fast because of losing, and cheated.

For the patch I will release I am using lagaard's advice

I suppose I would argue that when the gambling game becomes 'Strip' variants, the point of the game shifts from the exchanging of money, to the exchanging of clothes. Money could be used to help lengthen the game, but I think for Strip Blackjack, the primary concern of both parties (or all parties) is the removal of clothes - not to try and fatten their bank account.

At least in games. Maybe in real life, but I'd figure in a game the point is you want to get the opponent(s) undressed before they can do the same to you. It reminds me a bit of Valkyrie's Strip Poker, where the AI was TOO good and it can take literally HOURS to get anywhere, which just isn't any fun. A strip game should focus more on the fun part, the stripping, and if you want to lengthen the game, make it so money is much smaller.

But this game being Black Jack, whether on money or not, take also into consideration HiEv explanation

It may feel like that, but don't forget that the deck is ~30% 10-point cards (16 out of 52 cards), so drawing a 10-point card at just under 1 in 3 draws is actually expected in a truly randomized deck.

Humans are pattern seeking animals, so when something is truly random, we try to see patterns anyways, and that often leads us to mistakenly determine that random things have some sort of pattern, when they really don't. What's actually happening tends to be us paying attention to the things that fit our expected "pattern", and forgetting the examples that don't fit, thus we fail to properly determine how accurate the "pattern" we think we're seeing is.

Try actually tracking your 10-point vs non-10-point draws and you'll likely find that it averages out at around 30%, just as expected.

The only way I could make it easier is by cheating in the player's favor. And I think that would lead to a loss of interest from the player

 

[lagaard]

Any kind of ETA on the next patch? I'm curious to see what kind of changes you'll have in mind based upon recent feedback.

 

[FookU2]

I mean, that's a rule in casinos. But this isn't really a casino situation, so it also kind of makes sense she wouldn't need to hit/stand on specific things. I still think for strip blackjack that having betting at all is entirely pointless, or at least, this MUCH betting. The entire point of the game is the removal of clothing, not the emptying of the wallet.

I see the point in money, though...at least for this game. You buy back in for a piece of clothing. At least with this mechanic, you aren't just betting your clothing each hand, and getting naked within 4 hands.
It makes the game last longer.
And I don't necessarily think casino rules should HAVE to apply to an adult game haha, but having it at a certain level of enjoyment, to at least keep people interested longer than 5 minutes would be beneficial.

 

[FookU2]

good idea but cheated game ! banned

Que? 0_O

 

[lagaard]

I see the point in money, though...at least for this game. You buy back in for a piece of clothing. At least with this mechanic, you aren't just betting your clothing each hand, and getting naked within 4 hands.
It makes the game last longer.
And I don't necessarily think casino rules should HAVE to apply to an adult game haha, but having it at a certain level of enjoyment, to at least keep people interested longer than 5 minutes would be beneficial.

To be fair, the clothing amount could be tweaked if it was solely about the clothing.
That being said, money isn't inherently bad, but I think the pool of money shouldn't magically increase. If someone buys back in, the money should come from the other player, not just magic up more money. Helps prevent the game from dragging on.

 

[HDriver]

Any kind of ETA on the next patch? I'm curious to see what kind of changes you'll have in mind based upon recent feedback.

I was hoping to release it until this Thursday, but I guess next week is a more accurate term, as I won't be available this weekend.

 

[HiEv]

The only way I could make it easier is by cheating in the player's favor. And I think that would lead to a loss of interest from the player

Funny enough, due to people's terrible innate statistical skills, sometimes making a game less random, can fool humans into thinking it's more random.

For example, iPods originally played songs from playlists randomly when in "shuffle" mode. This caused Apple to receive complaints that the songs weren't random and that there must be some kind of bug in the algorithm because people might hear the same song two or three times in a row, or a bunch of songs by the same artist in a row. This something you'd expect to happen in a truly random system occasionally, but people don't understand randomness. So, Apple made the "random" song selection from playlists less random, and more in line with what people wanted to occur, and people were happy that Apple fixed that "bug", which wasn't a bug at all.

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You might find some ideas in there for ways to make the game a bit less random in certain circumstances, so it's less frustrating to play.

Hope that helps!

 

[FookU2]

To be fair, the clothing amount could be tweaked if it was solely about the clothing.
That being said, money isn't inherently bad, but I think the pool of money shouldn't magically increase. If someone buys back in, the money should come from the other player, not just magic up more money. Helps prevent the game from dragging on.

The speed of the game is slow anyway lol. I mean, it may just run slowly due to my system, but I would think 12gb ram on an i7 would be enough to have no lag lol

 

[HylTin]

I just want to add another layer because this game is soooooo much frustrating... I really don't understand why making games that are almost impossible?! It's really a kill joy to me... so nope, good bye and best luck, you really will need it!

 

[kubo1028]

The only way I could make it easier is by cheating in the player's favor. And I think that would lead to a loss of interest from the player

I suggest you should add Player occupation which give player 1 skill.
For example if you choose "Professor" you will get skill "Counting" that show prob of card you will hit.
-"Gambler" you will get skill "Instinct" that will give notification when you will draw a high card at the open. (16more)
-"Jobless" you don't get skill and it will be normal mode.
you can add more occupation later next update to help player win easier.

sorry for my English, I like your game. Please keep going.

 

[FleetingNimbus]

Yeah I'll chime in with the rest here. Having the content of the game gated behind a card game with essentially zero skill and a that is weighted against you is not a good idea. Honestly a coin toss would be about as much fun.

If it was a card game where the other player can actually make mistakes (and those mistakes were actually implemented as a part of the AI) it could be fun. Now it's just an endless purposeless grind. It could also be fun if you had some way to cheat in-character - peeking at cards while she looks away, stealing poker chips etc.

 

[AntonidasWoodmere85]

No more speculation. Your RNG is broke. If this bitch took her "Randomization Algorithm" to Vegas, there would be no more Vegas. Animation is great. Gameplay is fucked.d

 

[lagaard]

So its been about a month, more? No word on an update?

 

[HDriver]

So its been about a month, more? No word on an update?

Sorry for replying so late. A new update will be available before Christmas and it will have the following features:
- complete BlackJack engine with all the casino rules (double, splits, etc..) and 99% of the bugs fixed
- a new level with a new girl
- a preview of a new gameplay mode, with no coins involved, that you can play with up to two girls (similar to StripPoker Nights).

 

[lagaard]

Sorry for replying so late. A new update will be available before Christmas and it will have the following features:
- complete BlackJack engine with all the casino rules (double, splits, etc..) and 99% of the bugs fixed
- a new level with a new girl
- a preview of a new gameplay mode, with no coins involved, that you can play with up to two girls (similar to StripPoker Nights).

Gotta say, I expected this was basically dead. Nice to hear that isn't the case, and looking forward to seeing what this update is going to be like!

 

[lagaard]

So, about that before Christmas update... any news HDriver?

 

[HDriver]

Sadly, it's not ready yet. The BlackJack engine and the new level are completed (except the voice acting), but I still have to finish the new gameplay mode and it's level.

Even though I don't want to make any more guesses, I plan to release the new version in the first part of January.

 

[lagaard]

Sadly, it's not ready yet. The BlackJack engine and the new level are completed (except the voice acting), but I still have to finish the new gameplay mode and it's level.

Even though I don't want to make any more guesses, I plan to release the new version in the first part of January.

Thanks for the update. Really getting curious to see how this is gonna look!