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There is a problem... if you ignore a user you cannot replay to him/her even if the ignored users replay to you.Thank you, my life has become a little calmer![]()
There is a problem... if you ignore a user you cannot replay to him/her even if the ignored users replay to you.Thank you, my life has become a little calmer![]()
The idea of the author, as I understand it, is to make Monica change completely. The only question is in what direction these changes will take place. It seems to me that the author wants Monica to become much more humble. And the (secret) happy ending at the end of Episode 1 only confirms this. Until Monica wants to change, get rid of her own arrogance, narcissism and start respecting, not despising others, her personal hell of humiliation, most likely, will not end.Obviously I can only speak from my own perspective and make no pretense of speaking for anyone else.
It's not about hating Monica and wishing bad things for her. I happen to like her and think she is one of the best protagonists from any game on this site. Watching her continual fight for her power and status to return while having her actions and decisions continually cause the opposite effect, thus dropping her further and further into the hole that has been dug for her is what this game is built on. This is the element of the game I enjoy the most.
Add the fact that personally I've always enjoyed a good blackmail plot and some coercion in my porn makes this game uniquely suited too my tastes.
Even if you might be right I 'm still confused about the ongoing analysis of Decent Monkeys thoughts. Afterall it s still a porn game. Yes it is the best porn game and has raised the expections to these games to a new level BUT its still a porn game. I dont want to see Monicas way back to the top - this is not Hollywood here. Its a porn site where people are looking for good stuff. And if this stuff has a good and catching story perfect but it still is porn-art. Not art!The idea of the author, as I understand it, is to make Monica change completely. The only question is in what direction these changes will take place. It seems to me that the author wants Monica to become much more humble. And the (secret) happy ending at the end of Episode 1 only confirms this. Until Monica wants to change, get rid of her own arrogance, narcissism and start respecting, not despising others, her personal hell of humiliation, most likely, will not end.
The problem is that I partially identify my gamer "I" with the controlled character (Monica) and so far I am powerless to prevent this. Of course, this cannot be called total immersion, as is the case in best RPG games, but even a partial merge is enough to create a certain connection between the player and the character. I think I need to try to abstract myself from Monica and not try to play her, but be an outside observer of the fight, then it will probably be easier.
It's just that when a player (for example) is called a "whore for $ 20" several times a day, it does not simplify the situation at all, but only makes me angry and furious. And it all looks like they are humiliating me, not Monica. I'm not sure if this "abstraction" from the character will work, but I'll try and give this game 1 more chance. Thanks for your reply.
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Like you, self inserting into the main character is my usual MO when playing an RPG or most male characters in general (Maybe that's why I can't enjoy most of the incest genre games). I found however from the first hour of fashion business in no way did I identify as Monica. She was such a ridiculous selfish narcissist that I decided to sit back and enjoy her fall from grace.The idea of the author, as I understand it, is to make Monica change completely. The only question is in what direction these changes will take place. It seems to me that the author wants Monica to become much more humble. And the (secret) happy ending at the end of Episode 1 only confirms this. Until Monica wants to change, get rid of her own arrogance, narcissism and start respecting, not despising others, her personal hell of humiliation, most likely, will not end.
The problem is that I partially identify my gamer "I" with the controlled character (Monica) and so far I am powerless to prevent this. Of course, this cannot be called total immersion, as is the case in best RPG games, but even a partial merge is enough to create a certain connection between the player and the character. I think I need to try to abstract myself from Monica and not try to play her, but be an outside observer of the fight, then it will probably be easier.
It's just that when a player (for example) is called a "whore for $ 20" several times a day, it does not simplify the situation at all, but only makes me angry and furious. And it all looks like they are humiliating me, not Monica. I'm not sure if this "abstraction" from the character will work, but I'll try and give this game 1 more chance. Thanks for your reply.
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Agreed 100%.Yes it is the best porn game and has raised the expections to these games to a new level BUT its still a porn game. I dont want to see Monicas way back to the top - this is not Hollywood here.
English is not my native language, I probably did not quite correctly put it. I do NOT identify myself as Monica, I am not sick enough to identify with the opposite sex. It is, rather, about ... I don't know how to put it better ... about some kind of responsibility for the character, due to the fact that I (the player) make decisions for her in the game. As a gamer, I think you understand what this is about. And on the rest of the points, I agree with you.Like you, self inserting into the main character is my usual MO when playing an RPG or most male characters in general (Maybe that's why I can't enjoy most of the incest genre games). I found however from the first hour of fashion business in no way did I identify as Monica. She was such a ridiculous selfish narcissist that I decided to sit back and enjoy her fall from grace.
I agree that the game is not set up for Monica to have her former life returned by bullying and intimidation but by becoming more humble and even have her empathize with another character or two.
If the player takes the pot shots and events personally it's understanding why many have issues with the game.
Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity to read all 700+ pages of this topic, so I did not know that some of the users tried to demand something from the author of the game. To be fair, I do not demand anything from the author, and I have no moral right to this, since I am not yet the patron of this game. The game itself is unique and deep, I wrote two big messages ( as Stan751 ) on the author's page. So please do not write me down as haters and criticism of this game, because I am not.Even if you might be right I 'm still confused about the ongoing analysis of Decent Monkeys thoughts. Afterall it s still a porn game. Yes it is the best porn game and has raised the expections to these games to a new level BUT its still a porn game. I dont want to see Monicas way back to the top - this is not Hollywood here. Its a porn site where people are looking for good stuff. And if this stuff has a good and catching story perfect but it still is porn-art. Not art!
So if I see all people here trying to do analysis of this game and judging bad over strange actions of MB it is not fair to DM . I ' m pretty active on this site and I haven't found any other game where the community demands the developer to keep an eye on such things.
Last point. Like you have noticed english is not my first language. Fashion Business is available in my native language but I prefer playing in english and do you know why? Because I dont want to think about some strange actions or sentences of Monica, which would be more visible for me if I would play in my native english.
So please realize that even Fashion Business is a porn game, which is developed by only a small group of people, who are doing awesome work by publishing big updates each six weeks.
My words were just my thoughts and not pointed towards you. It was a general observation.English is not my native language, I probably did not quite correctly put it. I do NOT identify myself as Monica, I am not sick enough to identify with the opposite sex. It is, rather, about ... I don't know how to put it better ... about some kind of responsibility for the character, due to the fact that I (the player) make decisions for her in the game. As a gamer, I think you understand what this is about. And on the rest of the points, I agree with you.
Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity to read all 700+ pages of this topic, so I did not know that some of the users tried to demand something from the author of the game. To be fair, I do not demand anything from the author, and I have no moral right to this, since I am not yet the patron of this game. The game itself is unique and deep, I wrote two big messages ( as Stan751 ) on the author's page. So please do not write me down as haters and criticism of this game, because I am not.
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Last point. Like you have noticed english is not my first language. Fashion Business is available in my native language but I prefer playing in english and do you know why? Because I dont want to think about some strange actions or sentences of Monica, which would be more visible for me if I would play in my native language.
Monica wants her old life back, which is why she needs money. Real money, not corruption stamps.Am i the only that's noticed that literally prostituting yourself does not increase your corruption but somehow showing your tits while your shirt is on does?
1) HaHa. Thats a good observation. Maybe the corruption is needed for the prostitution but doesn't add too it (Mmm ... Yeah that's tough to defend).Am i the only that's noticed that literally prostituting yourself does not increase your corruption but somehow showing your tits while your shirt is on does?
Not the mention, the mechanics are so long grinding in nature that it makes the game super slow.
As for the writing, the game put emphasis on how much of a bitch Monica is, this is however a little ludicrous because every character male or female is manipulating, extorting people, or abusing someone. Literally all of them. This is an universe where everyone's an asshole but the MC is the one who should pay? lmao.
I know this will get deleted but I can't help myself. This is the first post of yours that i have read that is both factually accurate and not full of bullshit. If you keep posting like this some might take you off their ignore list.I understand you want avoid to download 10gb... but version 0.17 it is not a compressed version of the whole EP2
EP2.1 v16 content stops at the end of v016 (it is a complete part of the game)
EP2.2 V17 content starts after the very end of v0.16 and continue on v 0.17...
....with the next update the EP2.2 will contain v.0.17 and v.0.18... until the end of the EP 2.2 ....
Are you on patreon the whole day and just wait for new spoilers? Because you post nothing else than these and always some minutes after their release.View attachment 978283
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Spoiler EP2.2 v18 - Dating with Julia (Public)
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It means he's a skilled gamer, his movements are to fast for human eyesAre you on patreon the whole day and just wait for new spoilers? Because you post nothing else than these and always some minutes after their release.
Will there in that scene some paparazzi to take indecent pictures of the infamous Monica Buffet being publicly exposed by Julia ?View attachment 978283
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Just me hoping for some scat scenes?View attachment 978283
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No plzJust me hoping for some scat scenes?