Bleh21

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I gave you one example not the only one.

You have mentioned something I have said repeatedly here. The corruption stat is misnamed and that calling it a desperation stat would be more accurate in this games case. Totally agree that what Monica does is out of desperation, not corruption or not out of the sort of corruption that most expect.

I just disagree with you that Monica has been a static character. I've seen much change in her, just not the type of change you would prefer.
If you had actual convincing examples you would bring them up. You don't because you know she is portrayed as a static character throughout the game. One off example vs consistent portrayal is very clear which is more substantial. You are also telling me she has changed, but have yet to verbalise what the change actually is.

When we look at Monica's characterization throughout the game, what has changed compared her ep 1 character?

She still does things out of desperation, she is just more desperate.
She has orgasms sometimes, but she still hates everything about sex
She still has the same dominant "I'm better then you" attitude

I played up to ep 3 and i can clearly remember for a fact that she is portrayed the same way she was in ep 1. "how dare you think I'll do that" followed by her doing that begrudgingly every scene on repeat for ever.'

Also think the corruption name doesn't change because it gives you the illusion of change in her character. Less people would be interested in they thought Monica was just getting more desperate instead of something as meaningful as "corrupted".
 
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I gave you one example not the only one.

You have mentioned something I have said repeatedly here. The corruption stat is misnamed and that calling it a desperation stat would be more accurate in this games case. Totally agree that what Monica does is out of desperation, not corruption or not out of the sort of corruption that most expect.

I just disagree with you that Monica has been a static character. I've seen much change in her, just not the type of change you would prefer.
well said.
 
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If you had actual convincing examples you would bring them up. You don't because you know she is portrayed as a static character throughout the game. One off example vs consistent portrayal is very clear which is more substantial. You are also telling me she has changed, but have yet to verbalise what the change actually is.

When we look at Monica's characterization throughout the game, what has changed compared her ep 1 character?

She still does things out of desperation, she is just more desperate.
She has orgasms sometimes, but she still hates everything about sex
She still has the same dominant "I'm better then you" attitude

I played up to ep 3 and i can clearly remember for a fact that she is portrayed the same way she was in ep 1. "how dare you think I'll do that" followed by her doing that begrudgingly every scene on repeat for ever.'

Also think the corruption name doesn't change because it gives you the illusion of change in her character. Less people would be interested in they thought Monica was just getting more desperate instead of something as meaningful as "corrupted".
Monica has changed a lot over the course of the game. What are you talking about? I'm not gonna tell you why or why not. Everyone knows or imagines ;)
 
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Monica has changed a lot over the course of the game. What are you talking about? I'm not gonna tell you why or why not. Everyone knows or imagines ;)
Literally the only change I read so far is that she liked a sexy dress one time lol. Id imagine if the dev didn't want to go the happy slut route, you'd make her better at manipulating people with sex if they want to get her to get back her status or slowly destroy her self esteem if they wanted her to fall to ruin. But literally nothing is happening with her character.
 
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Are people getting the Extras to work by merely placing z_activation_405.rpy in the 'game' folder, and just changing all the 405 to 406 in the file name and inside the file?

It's getting rid of the Not Activated on the main page for me, but crashes after selecting the Extra option when it shows up. Is there any other steps?
 

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Literally the only change I read so far is that she liked a sexy dress one time lol. Id imagine if the dev didn't want to go the happy slut route, you'd make her better at manipulating people with sex if they want to get her to get back her status or slowly destroy her self esteem if they wanted her to fall to ruin. But literally nothing is happening with her character.
Well, while I certainly agree with you that there is a very slight change in Monica's character, I still think that the corruption is present in the game. It just depends on how you define it. If you think that corruption means that Monica is supposed to start liking doing sexual stuff, then there is nothing like that in the game, except in one branch with Fred that everyone hates here (not me).
But I see it differently, corruption is not about starting to enjoy being fucked or something, but about slowly accepting new reality where she is a whore, basically. Could Monica from the beginning of Ep.1 imagine that she would work on the street and be totally fine with? Could she imagine that she would fight for the role of the main stripper and enjoy that role (in Ep.5 clearly enjoys it)? Now in Ep.4 it is totally fine for Monica to be fucked by black guys for Cambell. Or to be in a cell like a dog for Philip (I mean she is barely protesting). Or to pay rent by fucking some kebab guy. Monica from Ep.1 would never do something like that, out of desperation or not. Never.
Monica in Ep. 1 is a confident respected business woman (or at least we are made to believe that). Monica in Ep.4 is just a stupid whore (who thinks she is smart) fucked by everyone, who is almost eager to sell her ass to make some money or get something she wants.
 
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Are people getting the Extras to work by merely placing z_activation_405.rpy in the 'game' folder, and just changing all the 405 to 406 in the file name and inside the file?

It's getting rid of the Not Activated on the main page for me, but crashes after selecting the Extra option when it shows up. Is there any other steps?
The offset code is what encrypts the images. and that is not the same for 405 and 406 - what you did there is wishful thinking :)

Just use the correct script
 
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Well, while I certainly agree with you that there is a very slight change in Monica's character, I still think that the corruption is present in the game. It just depends on how you define it. If you think that corruption means that Monica is supposed to start liking doing sexual stuff, then there is nothing like that in the game, except in one branch with Fred that everyone hates here (not me).
But I see it differently, corruption is not about starting to enjoy being fucked or something, but about slowly accepting new reality where she is a whore, basically. Could Monica from the beginning of Ep.1 imagine that she would work on the street and be totally fine with? Could she imagine that she would fight for the role of the main stripper and enjoy that role (in Ep.5 clearly enjoys it)? Now in Ep.4 it is totally fine for Monica to be fucked by black guys for Cambell. Or to be in a cell like a dog for Philip (I mean she is barely protesting). Or to pay rent by fucking some kebab guy. Monica from Ep.1 would never do something like that, out of desperation or not. Never.
Monica in Ep. 1 is a confident respected business woman (or at least we are made to believe that). Monica in Ep.4 is just a stupid whore (who thinks she is smart) fucked by everyone, who is almost eager to sell her ass to make some money or get something she wants.
You are trying to speak with someone who even didn’t played till curent update and stoped smthere in ep.3.
 
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If you had actual convincing examples you would bring them up. You don't because you know she is portrayed as a static character throughout the game. One off example vs consistent portrayal is very clear which is more substantial. You are also telling me she has changed, but have yet to verbalise what the change actually is.

When we look at Monica's characterization throughout the game, what has changed compared her ep 1 character?

She still does things out of desperation, she is just more desperate.
She has orgasms sometimes, but she still hates everything about sex
She still has the same dominant "I'm better then you" attitude

I played up to ep 3 and i can clearly remember for a fact that she is portrayed the same way she was in ep 1. "how dare you think I'll do that" followed by her doing that begrudgingly every scene on repeat for ever.'

Also think the corruption name doesn't change because it gives you the illusion of change in her character. Less people would be interested in they thought Monica was just getting more desperate instead of something as meaningful as "corrupted".
More than happy to give further examples however I feel you are moving the goal posts. Let's not forget I responded to your statement that " I'd expect some change in her mentality than when she was a billionaire. ". Now I gave you a good example of how her mentality has changed. That is some change right there. If you don't think that is enough then that is your issue. If you are not getting what you want from this game then again that is on you. But I did show her changing mentality, only for you to claim you want more examples.

So before I go and post some more examples of her changing mentality I'd like to know from you how many changes do I need to show in a post that would satisfy you. I'm willing to play but not until the goal posts are concreted in.
 
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More than happy to give further examples however I feel you are moving the goal posts. Let's not forget I responded to your statement that " I'd expect some change in her mentality than when she was a billionaire. ". Now I gave you a good example of how her mentality has changed. That is some change right there. If you don't think that is enough then that is your issue. If you are not getting what you want from this game then again that is on you. But I did show her changing mentality, only for you to claim you want more examples.

So before I go and post some more examples of her changing mentality I'd like to know from you how many changes do I need to show in a post that would satisfy you. I'm willing to play but not until the goal posts are concreted in.
You didn't show her change in mentality. Monica was never a nun, she never minded slightly sexy clothing. Didn't she love the red dress that she bought initially? I would just like to consistent portrayal. If she loves sexy clothing now, can I go back to her old shoots and have her like the more conservative clothing? is there anything else besides a one off statement that can taken many different ways that imply she likes wearing sexier clothing now?
 
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Well, while I certainly agree with you that there is a very slight change in Monica's character, I still think that the corruption is present in the game. It just depends on how you define it. If you think that corruption means that Monica is supposed to start liking doing sexual stuff, then there is nothing like that in the game, except in one branch with Fred that everyone hates here (not me).
But I see it differently, corruption is not about starting to enjoy being fucked or something, but about slowly accepting new reality where she is a whore, basically. Could Monica from the beginning of Ep.1 imagine that she would work on the street and be totally fine with? Could she imagine that she would fight for the role of the main stripper and enjoy that role (in Ep.5 clearly enjoys it)? Now in Ep.4 it is totally fine for Monica to be fucked by black guys for Cambell. Or to be in a cell like a dog for Philip (I mean she is barely protesting). Or to pay rent by fucking some kebab guy. Monica from Ep.1 would never do something like that, out of desperation or not. Never.
Monica in Ep. 1 is a confident respected business woman (or at least we are made to believe that). Monica in Ep.4 is just a stupid whore (who thinks she is smart) fucked by everyone, who is almost eager to sell her ass to make some money or get something she wants.
Desperation isn't characterization. She's still the same person. Imo corruption isn't about liking sex sure. Its about portraying how your experience is changing you as a person. Again people keep implying I want her to just start liking sex, its true but i never argued for that. I literally gave two alternates to the typical corruption route that would make perfect sense for her in my previous post. I just want some effect on her. As it stood, every single scene just felt pointless because none of it effected her at all. Yeah she's doing progressively more and more perverted stuff but none of it is effecting her in way. Well i guess she's getting richer so good for her.

She was deluded since the start. Its just the same dynamic playing over and over for all three episodes but now she makes more money for more perverted stuff. It just gets boring man lol
 
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You didn't show her change in mentality. Monica was never a nun, she never minded slightly sexy clothing. Didn't she love the red dress that she bought initially? I would just like to consistent portrayal. If she loves sexy clothing now, can I go back to her old shoots and have her like the more conservative clothing? is there anything else besides a one off statement that can taken many different ways that imply she likes wearing sexier clothing now?
I'm not saying Monica likes clothing that she thinks is slutty. The point is she didn't see that dress as slutty. She saw that grey dress as appropriate to wear to a business meeting when Monica wouldn't have touched that outfit in ep1 with a ten foot pole. Her change in mentality is what she sees as appropriate for her when in public. Don't forget she went to that meeting as Monica Buckfett. Not Ruby or pretending to be her own double.

She definitely didn't love that red dress when she got it.
 

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I'm not saying Monica likes clothing that she thinks is slutty. The point is she didn't see that dress as slutty. She saw that grey dress as appropriate to wear to a business meeting when Monica wouldn't have touched that outfit in ep1 with a ten foot pole. Her change in mentality is what she sees as appropriate for her when in public. Don't forget she went to that meeting as Monica Buckfett. Not Ruby or pretending to be her own double.

She definitely didn't love that red dress when she got it.
She is literally doing photoshoots in slutty clothing as Monica since the start of the game. She got naked in front of investors. This is nothing new lol. She was still forced into all of it.

Nah I'm pretty sure she had a "good enough" mentality towards the red dress.
 

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Desperation isn't characterization. She's still the same person. Imo corruption isn't about liking sex sure. Its about portraying how your experience is changing you as a person. Again people keep implying I want her to just start liking sex, its true but i never argued for that. I literally gave two alternates to the typical corruption route that would make perfect sense for her in my previous post. I just want some effect on her. As it stood, every single scene just felt pointless because none of it effected her at all. Yeah she's doing progressively more and more perverted stuff but none of it is effecting her in way. Well i guess she's getting richer so good for her
No, she is not the same. If a person is ready to do things that she or he would have never done before, it certainly means that he or she has changed. Out of desperation, or out of something else doesn't make a difference.
If you think about it, she is not really forced to do anything in the game, maybe except very early (when Veronica forced her). She does what she does because she becomes ready to do it. It is about making choices. And she constantly makes choices to make naugtier and naugtier stuff (if the player chooces that for her). No one is forcing her do those photoshoots where she is completely naked or fucked by a bunch of black guys on a boat. She does it in the game, because her greed for money, status and so is more important to her than your dignity, self-respect and so. It is corruption. She still doesn't like, but further and further in the game she is doing more explicit things. Actually, after that time when Veronica stops asking her for money, Monica could just say fuck it and keep working as a waitress to make a living. But she doesn't stop. She does more and more.

Let's be frank here, you just don't like the way the game is being developed and progressed. You want Monica to become a some bimbo slut, who likes dicks. And nothing wrong with, but the developer has chosen a different course. There are such games, like The Promise Best Left Unkept. And I also think that one of the ending of Fashion Business will be like that.
 
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Do we know how many days there are going to be in the phillip route was it 7 days? How close am I to getting out of that route and playing all the other updates that have happened 2 more updates?
 

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in
FashionBusiness-EP2-v16-Extra-pc\game\Quests
and the other 3 episodes
find the file Achievements.rpy
open it with a text editor like notepad or notepad++
in the last line change false to True

this is much easier than installing those gallery mods you can find here
and gallery are ingame in left upper corner and looks like a diploma

this is for eps1,1 and shall be extracted in the game folder
and only for vers 1,1
use extract here
not extract to
View attachment 2764716

there are changes from eps4 v5
it shall looks like this

def get_achievement(achLabel):
if (persistent.achievements.has_key(achLabel) and persistent.achievements[achLabel] == True) or debugMode == True:
return True
return True

def check_shake_achievement(video_filename):
shake_img = re.search(r'shake\_(\d+)', video_filename)
if shake_img != None:
check_achievement("img_" + shake_img.group(1))
return True
wen i do this in v4 6.0 the game crash
 
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