Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v8.00 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[chinesewarrior]

What is shown in the game (blackmail) is basically a veiled rape, and the illusion of choice doesn't help, especially when you consider that choosing the option of refusing sex (with a few exceptions, which thankfully became possible in recent updates) leads to quest failure and the inability to move on with the chosen storyline.

Yes, now the DM has given Monica a little more freedom, but if you compare in % of the total content of all episodes of the game, the overwhelming number of Monica's choices are exactly the same - her refusal = quest failure and inability to move on.

I.e. it's a kind of indulgence, the choice is necessary to avoid the patreon problem, but the problem is that this choice largely just blocks the development of the plot. So it's not in your best interest to bring it up, sit quietly and enjoy what you see, and pray that the DM has time to finish the game without repercussions from the patreon moralfags...

This is walking on very thin ice (and this applies not only to DM, but to other devs who chose this highly specialized genre of games with a female MC and blackmail).

So yes, Monica can be called a whore, that is, a woman who is forced by circumstances to solve her financial (and other) problems with sex, but a slut who enjoys every moment, she has never been.

NOPE, you don't know the definition of "whore". Most whores are not "forced" like in the movies, they do it willingly. Its not like "they had no other choices". Most whores are sluts, they already enjoy sex, why not earn money on the side ?

You should read some articles about human subconscious.

 

[Stan5851]

NOPE, you don't know the definition of "whore". Most whores are not "forced" like in the movies, they do it willingly. Its not like "they had no other choices". Most whores are sluts, they already enjoy sex, why not earn money on the side ?

You should read some articles about human subconscious.

I don't care about some abstract whores.. Every girl who decides to make money this way has her own reasons. Anyway, there's no point in discussing here anyone's ideas about whores in RL making money from sex and their true motivation. Here we have a game and here Monica is being forced to do it (I've already written what happens if Monica refuses).

One thing I know for sure is that DM (the developer) confirmed our (mine and agn25's) remarks that Monica is not a slut, and as a result of this communication renamed the indicator “slutmeter” to “whoremeter”. So if you want to argue with a FB dev who doesn't think a character he himself invented is a slut, good luck with that.

 

[kannagi21]

As I said, she's perfect to be a nun, she can have all the humiliation she wants which gets her off for sinning while sex not touching her

 

[EraRamp]

As I said, she's perfect to be a nun, she can have all the humiliation she wants which gets her off for sinning while sex not touching her

No. Your definition still doesn't match what he said Stan5851 above

 

[EraRamp]

In short, the closest interpretation of the game is that of Stan5851. And his FAQ. The rest of the branching is just interesting, and some may even be boring to you. But the development of the game continues

 

[Stan5851]

But the development of the game continues

...and so Monica cums while lying on her desk and without any penetration.Well, I hope DM knows what he's doing..

 

[EraRamp]

...and so Monica cums while lying on her desk and without any penetration.Well, I hope DM knows what he's doing..

Of course he does. We and even you are helping him

 

[Stan5851]

Of course he does. We and even you are helping him

Yeah.., but that kind of finale I definitely wouldn't recommend (I mean the finale of the last photoshoot in "The Office", haha.) Monica didn't experience anything like that even in the Falling Path finale, where she was fucked by a whole line of slum locals. But I'll be honest, I have some concerns about where these orgasms (in the main storyline) might take Monica. Of course, DM has already proven that Monica is indeed a woman of steel with an impenetrable will, but it's still a little unsettling..I'd like to see her continue to be like that no matter what. Otherwise it won't be Monica anymore, but something like Anna or Miriam.

 

[qazxsw80]

I actually really liked the fact that there are at least some situations that arouse Monica. The idea the Monica gets turned on during public events where everyone realizes that it is her, not some double or anything, is quite reasonable. She was always a powerful woman, was in control. And here she feels defenseless, vulnerable. It is similar to those stories of powerful man, such as politicians, who love to order people aroung during the day, but into submission during the night.

That notion that Monica is almost totally frigit (except for unexplained silly events with Fred) is all right in general, since some women are, but silly for an adult game. Actually, I believe that was expected from the begining - Monica was supposed not to be into vanila sex and all, but a player was intented to discover sexual things that Monica loves, and Monica, as the main protagonist, was meant to discover them herself.

 

[agn25]

Yeah.., but that kind of finale I definitely wouldn't recommend (I mean the finale of the last photoshoot in "The Office", haha.) Monica didn't experience anything like that even in the Falling Path finale, where she was fucked by a whole line of slum locals. But I'll be honest, I have some concerns about where these orgasms (in the main storyline) might take Monica. Of course, DM has already proven that Monica is indeed a woman of steel with an impenetrable will, but it's still a little unsettling..I'd like to see her continue to be like that no matter what. Otherwise it won't be Monica anymore, but something like Anna or Miriam.

My opinion on that office scene is it is one of the best scenes of the game. Seeing Monica orgasm from being teased and ridiculed by the press while openly showing all and having no mental excuse or hiding under an alias worked well. It fits with the themes of humiliation throughout the game. She is still consciously fighting her body's desires as she has from early in ep2 but with nowhere to consciously hide what she was doing and who was witnessing, her body's wants superseded her mental desire to be in control. In that moment it worked.

Now where DM goes with this from here is where I share your concern. If he keeps it like the office scene where Monica holds herself all the way until there is no reasonable way for her to deny she is not in control, then loses her fight against her body as in the office scene, these scenes will work, at least for me. If she however now starts thinking of this scene whenever she is interviewed and starts too tease and encourages the press too talk dirty too her from the beginning or starts to look forward to being humiliated then yeah, this will go the way of the Fred and Monica scenes. I really hope it doesn't go this way.

Another point to think about is having Monica loose control of herself and get off from humiliation in the moment is a good way of getting around the restrictions he would feel from Patreon. This might enable him some hardcore scenes many have been waiting for while not risking trouble from the moral police.

 

[agn25]

I actually really liked the fact that there are at least some situations that arouse Monica. The idea the Monica gets turned on during public events where everyone realizes that it is her, not some double or anything, is quite reasonable. She was always a powerful woman, was in control. And here she feels defenseless, vulnerable. It is similar to those stories of powerful man, such as politicians, who love to order people aroung during the day, but into submission during the night.

That notion that Monica is almost totally frigit (except for unexplained silly events with Fred) is all right in general, since some women are, but silly for an adult game. Actually, I believe that was expected from the begining - Monica was supposed not to be into vanila sex and all, but a player was intented to discover sexual things that Monica loves, and Monica, as the main protagonist, was meant to discover them herself.

I agree with your first paragraph not so much with your second. I liked the positive outlook you have here.

 

[Stan5851]

My opinion on that office scene is it is one of the best scenes of the game. Seeing Monica orgasm from being teased and ridiculed by the press while openly showing all and having no mental excuse or hiding under an alias worked well. It fits with the themes of humiliation throughout the game. She is still consciously fighting her body's desires as she has from early in ep2 but with nowhere to consciously hide what she was doing and who was witnessing, her body's wants superseded her mental desire to be in control. In that moment it worked.

Now where DM goes with this from here is where I share your concern. If he keeps it like the office scene where Monica holds herself all the way until there is no reasonable way for her to deny she is not in control, then loses her fight against her body as in the office scene, these scenes will work, at least for me. If she however now starts thinking of this scene whenever she is interviewed and starts too tease and encourages the press too talk dirty too her from the beginning or starts to look forward to being humiliated then yeah, this will go the way of the Fred and Monica scenes. I really hope it doesn't go this way.

Another point to think about is having Monica loose control of herself and get off from humiliation in the moment is a good way of getting around the restrictions he would feel from Patreon. This might enable him some hardcore scenes many have been waiting for while not risking trouble from the moral police.

That scene in The Office gave me mixed feelings.

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[leper2]

when will there be an update? Fashion buisness

 

[leper2]

There could be even more gangbang scenes than in prison. theater . photo sessions

 

[leper2]

sex scenes in a porn studio. prison photo sessions. Filip's blowbang could also be in the next update

 

[Wagdy75]

Anyone ever said that shell become sex addicted slut?

Well, isn't this what we are waiting for?

 

[Ostego]

Well, isn't this what we are waiting for?

Nope. I`m waiting for her humiliation, BDSM, bestiality. Not happy slutting

 

[TheLecher]

Well, isn't this what we are waiting for?

You might be, but I'm definitely not.

 

[Stan5851]

when will there be an update? Fashion buisness

The answer to this question can be found on the previous pages. And don't spam one phrase in each post/comment. All that you wrote in 4 posts, could well fit in one, without cluttering the thread with unnecessary posts.

 

[Stan5851]

Nope. I`m waiting for her humiliation, BDSM, bestiality. Not happy slutting

Me too, but on the bestiality thing, I'm looking forward to it more from a canon narrative perspective. You know, just like, for example, "There must always be a Lich King", so the Farm 218 should be as it was originally conceived. It just needs to be done (say, as a separate DLC), if only so that no one can blame the DM for teasing the players for so long but not doing it (even if for reasons beyond his control (moralfags from patreon)). But I'm not likely to fawn over the act of Monica copulating with some dog or horse, haha. That's not what turns me on.