Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.4 v9.02 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

[qazxsw80]

I totally understand what you have said. And I think you are right that he did that path to appease some. It still makes no sense in relation to the rest of the game.

Well, to me it makes as much sense as the rest of the game. It's not supposed to be completely realistic or believable. Let's be frank here - the events that are happening in the game, such as the farm, the Victoria's branch, etc. cannot happen in real life.
So, Monica becoming addicted to Fred's dick maybe is not realistic in terms of real life, but it is not less believable than other branches.
Monica has never experienced an orgasm. Fred is the only one who gave to her. And it seems from the story that Fred is like the most experienced and skilled fucker, so he is the only one who can give Monica that pleasure. And since deeply inside Monica wants it, she can do many things for Fred she would have never done for anyone else. For me it sounds totally fine for an adult game.
Actually, this kind of story twist is present in almost any NTR game. A woman, let's say a wife, is not sexually satisfied, then she meets some other guy who fucks her well and eventually she becomes addicted to sex with that guy and becomes his cumdump. Not totally believable, but fine for a porn game.

 

[agn25]

Well, to me it makes as much sense as the rest of the game. It's not supposed to be completely realistic or believable. Let's be frank here - the events that are happening in the game, such as the farm, the Victoria's branch, etc. cannot happen in real life.
So, Monica becoming addicted to Fred's dick maybe is not realistic in terms of real life, but it is not less believable than other branches.
Monica has never experienced an orgasm. Fred is the only one who gave to her. And it seems from the story that Fred is like the most experienced and skilled fucker, so he is the only one who can give Monica that pleasure. And since deeply inside Monica wants it, she can do many things for Fred she would have never done for anyone else. For me it sounds totally fine for an adult game.
Actually, this kind of story twist is present in almost any NTR game. A woman, let's say a wife, is not sexually satisfied, then she meets some other guy who fucks her well and eventually she becomes addicted to sex with that guy and becomes his cumdump. Not totally believable, but fine for a porn game.

I'm sorry but saying Monica hasn't had an orgasm until Fred fucked one out of her makes me question how much of this game you have being paying attention too. I know very well it is common in female protagonist games that they eventually become mindless sluts. It was the lack of this that separated this game from the pack. (At least for me) If Decent Monkey wants this game to join the pack and just become another porn game for you, good luck too him.

And this is not an NTR game. Which in general I have no problems with NTR.

 

[qazxsw80]

I'm sorry but saying Monica hasn't had an orgasm until Fred fucked one out of her makes me question how much of this game you have being paying attention too. I know very well it is common in female protagonist games that they eventually become mindless sluts. It was the lack of this that separated this game from the pack. (At least for me) If Decent Monkey wants this game to join the pack and just become another porn game for you, good luck too him.

I played all the updates and every storyline except the revenge one, since I don't care about it at all. As far as I remember Monica experienced the first orgasm with Fred and she has it with him every time. I may be wrong, since an orgasm or no orgasm is not important to me in the least and I don't pay close attention to it. It is not why I play this game.
I personally don't see a problem if the game has one branch where Monica becomes addicted to sex and becomes a cumdump. It might be fun, actually, if implemented well. For example, where Fred forces Monica to do some exhibitionism stuff by denying her sex or making her beg to have sex with him. I don't want the game to revolve around such things, but for variety, why not?

 

[agn25]

I played all the updates and every storyline except the revenge one, since I don't care about it at all. As far as I remember Monica experienced the first orgasm with Fred and she has it with him every time. I may be wrong, since an orgasm or no orgasm is not important to me in the least and I don't pay close attention to it. It is not why I play this game.
I personally don't see a problem if the game has one branch where Monica becomes addicted to sex and becomes a cumdump. It might be fun, actually, if implemented well. For example, where Fred forces Monica to do some exhibitionism stuff by denying her sex or making her beg to have sex with him. I don't want the game to revolve around such things, but for variety, why not?

Okay, trust me Fred was far from the first to give Monica an orgasm. And like you I don't really give a shit if she has one. You ask why Monica can't become addicted to sex? The simple answer is that it would break every storyline (except the home which I already consider broken) currently in game. If Monica suddenly is happy to fuck her way out of her issues the game might as well finish.

 

[Stan5851]

Okay, trust me Fred was far from the first to give Monica an orgasm. And like you I don't really give a shit if she has one. You ask why Monica can't become addicted to sex? The simple answer is that it would break every storyline (except the home which I already consider broken) currently in game. If Monica suddenly is happy to fuck her way out of her issues the game might as well finish.

It's rather strange that you have to explain the obvious things, you might say, the unchanging axiom of our game. I would understand if your opponent was a rookie player, but qazxsw80 certainly can't be called a new player unfamiliar with our game. I added this information to the FAQ not too long ago to make it clear to all new players how our game is different from the legion of others.

I haven't mentioned about Monica's absolutely unique appearance and the fact that she is the most beautiful and sexy female protagonist of all existing games with female MC, because it's, in general, a well-known fact.

And I totally agree with you - if Monica becomes a "happy slut", it will be game over and it will be a failure and the worst thing that could happen to the Fashion Business.

 

[Alea iacta est]

This orgasm shit must end...

can we please infibulate Monica?? Or cutting her clit?

Please please

 

[qazxsw80]

It's rather strange that you have to explain the obvious things, you might say, the unchanging axiom of our game. I would understand if your opponent was a rookie player, but @qazxsw80 certainly can't be called a new player unfamiliar with our game. I added this information to the FAQ not too long ago to make it clear to all new players how our game is different from the legion of others

It is kind of strange that I have to explain my point of view again and again. Thrice, actually. It seemed to me that I stated it quite clearly.
I don't want Monica to become "a happy slut" in all the branches. I just don't see a problem if the game is gonna have only one separate storyline where she is gonna become one. Some people want it, what's the problem of having it along other branches? The game has needed to be divided into separate independent storylines for a long time and the longer it doesn't get divided the less sense the game makes. What's the point for Monica to work on the street, if she has a rich husband-to-be at home or she is a manager of a high-class escort service or she got her magazine back or even if she is gonna work for that old bitch as a porno star? All those events are already mutually exclusive.
What's the problem of having, let's say these independent stories with different saves:
1. The house story where Monica does become Fred's happy slut.
2. The Markus story where she is trained to become a pet.
3. A storyline where Monica works as a pornostar.
4. The fallen path where she becomes a homeless drug-addict hooker.
5. The revenge path.
....
etc.
In one branch she hates sex, in another she loves it, in the third she doesn't mind...
If there are separate branches with different saves, it is not a problem, the way I see it. And it certainly provides variety.

 

[makeeyou]

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macOS-10.16-x86_64-i386-64bit x86_64
Ren'Py 8.0.3.22090809
EP3-v15-Extra
Sat Feb 18 19:14:14 2023

 

[Deleted member 1194890]

Nice spoiler. Is it just me or do those butterfly wings look like they are only in the spoiler too hide the actual outfit Monica is wearing? How are they connected too her back? And what is that T1000 looking thing in front of her face? Some sort of mask? Looks like an interesting photoshoot. Bring on V16. I'm predicting the update around the 6th of March.

Nope that is probably the actual outfit

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[Stan5851]

Nope that is probably the actual outfit

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This should rather be addressed to EraRamp
https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-3-v15-extra-decentmonkey.11501/post-10106254
But if such a thing is really contained in the code of the current version, I suppose conclusions will be made.

 

[EraRamp]

By who? The L7 Team? In all seriousness as a big fan of both Decent Monkey and the game that scene was complete garbage.

Developer. DM. The only one at the time. What does this have to do with L7?

 

[Deleted member 1194890]

This should rather be addressed to EraRamp
https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-3-v15-extra-decentmonkey.11501/post-10106254
But if such a thing is really contained in the code of the current version, I suppose conclusions will be made.

no, its from "EP3 V16"

 

[Ostego]

pffff.....
This little cheater betrayed Mel...

 

[Stan5851]

Developer. DM. The only one at the time. What does this have to do with L7?

I'm sure it was sarcasm related to the vanilla nature (hello, MoS) of the scene. And the point is not the fact of the intercourse itself, but that Monica, who hates sex in all its manifestations throughout the game, should never have become addicted to Fred's cock. This is already beyond good and evil and destroys everything that was built by DM himself. I hope this was the last scene like this and that this prolonged unfortunate joke of Monica's attraction to Fred's dick is finally over.

 

[EraRamp]

I'm sure it was sarcasm related to the vanilla nature (hello, MoS) of the scene. And the point is not the fact of the intercourse itself, but that Monica, who hates sex in all its manifestations throughout the game, should never have become addicted to Fred's cock. This is already beyond good and evil and destroys everything that was built by DM himself. I hope this was the last scene like this and that this prolonged unfortunate joke of Monica's attraction to Fred's dick is finally over.

Ah, I didn't even start that line.

 

[Stan5851]

Ah, I didn't even start that line.

Me too.

 

[agn25]

Developer. DM. The only one at the time. What does this have to do with L7?

Nothing. They were rhetorical questions.
Stan5851 explained my thoughts extremely well in the below quote.

I'm sure it was sarcasm related to the vanilla nature (hello, MoS) of the scene. And the point is not the fact of the intercourse itself, but that Monica, who hates sex in all its manifestations throughout the game, should never have become addicted to Fred's cock. This is already beyond good and evil and destroys everything that was built by DM himself. I hope this was the last scene like this and that this prolonged unfortunate joke of Monica's attraction to Fred's dick is finally over.

Ah, I didn't even start that line.

Me too.

My Monicas will be paying off Fred before any of this crap even begins. Once was enough for me.

 

[Lycan73]

I'm sure it was sarcasm related to the vanilla nature (hello, MoS) of the scene. And the point is not the fact of the intercourse itself, but that Monica, who hates sex in all its manifestations throughout the game, should never have become addicted to Fred's cock. This is already beyond good and evil and destroys everything that was built by DM himself. I hope this was the last scene like this and that this prolonged unfortunate joke of Monica's attraction to Fred's dick is finally over.

She orgasmed with the three black guys on the yacht, too. It's becoming a theme. And that's worrying. I seriously hope DM is not planning to turn her into a cock-loving slut. The fact that she hates to pose nude or has to fuck the guy, yet has to by circumstance, is what makes this game exciting. If the humiliation fades, so will my attraction to this game.

 

[Ostego]

She orgasmed with the three black guys on the yacht, too. It's becoming a theme. And that's worrying. I seriously hope DM is not planning to turn her into a cock-loving slut. The fact that she hates to pose nude or has to fuck the guy, yet has to by circumstance, is what makes this game exciting. If the humiliation fades, so will my attraction to this game.

and in slums too in drunk state.

 

[Imperator117]

and in slums too in drunk state.

That's a different thing, on the yacht and with Fred, she enjoys sex without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol. I think it's fine if that "mysterious wall" that blocks her to enjoy sex vanishes due to these things. The problem is that she enjoys sex when she is sober, and nothing affects that "wall".