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Stan5851,职位:8431086,成员:1720085 said:
不是自愿的,你说?嗯,好吧,我会把它当作未来更新的一点剧透。)我很想知道是谁让这只“可怜而天真的羊”做她对莫妮卡、梅兰妮和斯蒂芬妮所做的所有事情。
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如果是这样,维多利亚做这些事情是谁的指示?这是一个剧透或找出谁是维多利亚背后的真正运营商。会不会是类似侦探的那种后续大片?
 

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Are there any console commands to decrease/increase relationship levels? Am planning on replaying the game using the provided saves on the Wiki page. However, I have no interest in some of the relationships--for example, Julia.
just don't start the Julia relationship.
 
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Stan5851

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Please write in English, as it is the only language of communication on f95. Regarding your question, the game initially started out as a drama, but the further it develops, the more elements of comedy I see in it. And that's actually a good thing, given that the game's main fetishes are humiliation and blackmail of Monica (and her girlfriends). And humiliation seasoned with humour is definitely better than just 'serious-faced' humiliation. And what lies beneath these fetishes and what this game is all about, you can read here.

As for the detective elements, that's there too, but the main intrigue of the whole game (in my opinion) is when Monica will finally go to the Farm. I would like it to happen in episode 4, as agn25 suggests.
 
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Stan5851

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why ???
i am sure the farm aren't what everybody think it is
vimmers, we've only seen this Farm from Marcus' words and in episode 3 when Monica goes to Marcus' new training session. I don't know what "everybody thinks of the Farm", but I know what Marcus was telling us and what the rich and powerful elites sitting on the Farm were directly hinting at in episode 3 (Marcus Training).

Basically, it's a pen for completely disenfranchised slaves copulating with animals, degenerating to the level of crawling animals, where in time (if the owners there want to) you can lose both your identity and your own life. (as I understand it).

I should probably say that I don't understand the animal copulation fetish (it just doesn't excite me). But what agn25 suggested doesn't involve degradation and copulation with animals, it involves Monica's struggles. (read what he writes about). I've got a theory myself as to what Monica would do on the Farm 218 (and I've written about it before, in a nutshell - it's BDSM training, including Pet Play), but anyway, the idea is that Farm is no longer a one-way road, but an opportunity for Monica to get to the bottom of it, understand the motives and reasons for what happened to her and, most importantly, earn the freedom and right to a normal human life again. This is the kind of farm I'm talking about, not what's shown in Lida's Adventures.
 

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Slaves don't get to make choices, so the Ranch 218 stuff would just be a slide show. Probably worth doing when the game is otherwise finished, but an unnecessary diversion of resources if there's story left to be told.
The problem is that the story is reminiscent of that same Groundhog Day. There are a lot of events, done beautifully, interestingly, but the feeling is that the story stands still. I'm not sure it's a good thing when the main plot core of the whole game is left untapped. Oh, and is there still one? Personally, I'd like to see at least a rough roadmap for the development of future updates. Where is our game headed in general and what are the developer's plans for Monica? One ride of humiliation replaces another, but globally the story stands still. Yes, it's still a great game (better than many games), but I'm 100% convinced that there needs to be a global shift in the story, something more serious than selling Monica's body to slum bums.

For example, when the Ep3 v5 update came out (specifically the Revenge quest) and then Ep3 v6 (specifically Marcus' Farm related quest), I had a feeling of near elation, knowing that this is it, something global is starting. After that there were many good quests (e.g. casting for the position of VIP Escort Administrator, Love Triangle, some events with Victoria, in general, I won't list all the quests, there are many of them and they turned out to be good and interesting). Now it remains to advance the main story of the game (it's important not to forget that) or at least hint to the players how (and when) this is planned to be done.

I don't even think of Monica's long-awaited service to Philip as his slave anymore. Will we ever see that? I suppose it could be a kind of a reference point that could move the main story in the right direction.
 

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I have been waiting for the next Philip scene for 10 updates now. Any idea when that will happen. All investors have agreed except Phil quite a while ago.
Really? Could you remind me when Steve agreed to invest?

I suspect we will see Monica in Phillip's basement in the last couple of updates of this chapter. My guess is as good as yours as to when that will be.
 
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The problem is that the story is reminiscent of that same Groundhog Day. There are a lot of events, done beautifully, interestingly, but the feeling is that the story stands still. I'm not sure it's a good thing when the main plot core of the whole game is left untapped. Oh, and is there still one? Personally, I'd like to see at least a rough roadmap for the development of future updates. Where is our game headed in general and what are the developer's plans for Monica? One ride of humiliation replaces another, but globally the story stands still. Yes, it's still a great game (better than many games), but I'm 100% convinced that there needs to be a global shift in the story, something more serious than selling Monica's body to slum bums.

For example, when the Ep3 v5 update came out (specifically the Revenge quest) and then Ep3 v6 (specifically Marcus' Farm related quest), I had a feeling of near elation, knowing that this is it, something global is starting. After that there were many good quests (e.g. casting for the position of VIP Escort Administrator, Love Triangle, some events with Victoria, in general, I won't list all the quests, there are many of them and they turned out to be good and interesting). Now it remains to advance the main story of the game (it's important not to forget that) or at least hint to the players how (and when) this is planned to be done.

I don't even think of Monica's long-awaited service to Philip as his slave anymore. Will we ever see that? I suppose it could be a kind of a reference point that could move the main story in the right direction.
That Phillip scene was always planned to be one of the final updates of ep 2.2 or ep 3 as it's now called. I think we discussed it at the time. Agreed that it is well overdue for some kind of developer update with some information of the time frames that are expected for at least the completion of this chapter.

I suspect though that whatever plans were in place when he began ep2, they have long been expanded and delayed. I'm not complaining. I still highly enjoy the content of the game. We all lose patience when we play these games update to update and sometimes lose some perspective of the game as a whole. The game flows really well if you start a new playthrough and play till the end of the current content. You will need a fair amount of free time though.:)
 
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Slaves don't get to make choices, so the Ranch 218 stuff would just be a slide show. Probably worth doing when the game is otherwise finished, but an unnecessary diversion of resources if there's story left to be told.
It would not be much different from the rest, it's already in large parts a slide show, with most content in one large main path, some options on the side and few shorter hard branches. It's still a VN anyway, we're not talking about open end world here.

A slave path could be played out with Monica getting trained with the possibility to get out again like Melanie did to serve outside, Monica could also try to escape or slide deeper into slave training just trying to survive, it would keep things interesting with lots of filthy scenes plus lots of bad end possibilites. There are multiple things that could be done to keep it going that my dirty mind could think of. But I think that's kind of dead and off the table right now, there will be pet training with Marcus and some BDSM with Philip.
 
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Really? Could you remind me when Steve agreed to invest?

I suspect we will see Monica in Phillip's basement in the last couple of updates of this chapter. My guess is as good as yours as to when that will be.
Steve is a given in my opinion. He doesn't seem to have any interest other than doing anal with Monica. Which she does with anyways. So it would be just another scene to get Steve ti agree, nothing intresting to watch there. Philip on the other hand brings something much more interesting to the table.
 

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Steve is a given in my opinion. He doesn't seem to have any interest other than doing anal with Monica. Which she does with anyways. So it would be just another scene to get Steve ti agree, nothing intresting to watch there. Philip on the other hand brings something much more interesting to the table.
I wasn't trying to compare the virtues of Steve and Phillip. Just reminding you that Steve has yet to agree like Phillip to invest in Biff's magazine. You really don't think Steve will make some sort of interesting ultimatum to Biff or Monica for his investment? You are right that it will probably involve Monica's arse in some way.:)
 
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