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Ren'Py Fashion Business [Ep.5 v2.01 Extra] [DecentMonkey]

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qazxsw80

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No update this month, it seems. Probably a record period between updates for all 7 years of the development.
 
thermel949

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Stuck on Episode 2- cant find endings. Also cant access Perry stuff - I dont have the option when I talk to the Stranger - any ideas?
 
Birdnman993

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qazxsw80 said:
Personally, I think Decent Monkey was just busy with other games and had no time to implement a sub ending in that branch.
I mean the whole point of a game, even a visual novel, is to allow the player to make choices. That's the main diffirence between a comic book with pictures and this kind of game.

That crap written by Stan5851 is total bullshit and kink shaming. By the end of the basement branch when Monica is crawling into a cage we can see easily that Monica is ready to do anything. She is totally accepted her fate - a slave, a sub, whatever. Actually, based on the events and choices in the basements it makes much more sense for Monica to become a sub - if she is a "strong-willed free woman" who never does anything degrading, then she is supposed to leave the basement almost immediately. And it is implemented in the branch. But actually, she willingly sucks a dozen of guys, swallows sperm, drinks pee - anything and everything. And yet somehow the more she does that the more dominant she is. Silly, if not to say stupid.

More than that, it does seem that for Philip the ending where Monica is a sub is supposed to be more enjoyable based on his character. He is very dominant. It would be more fun for him to dominate such a woman as Monica, who in the past rejected and ridiculed him.
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Hmm, I think you have the wrong idea about the game. If this were a game of choices, there would be alternatives to progress. Here, you either follow the pre-established script or you don't see anything. And really, when Monica tells people to fuck off, it's very satisfying, but you get stuck and can't continue. Similarly, Monica is not a character that can be molded to our liking. She's a well-defined character with a defined personality, and that can't be changed. I'd like Monica to learn some humility from everything she's been through and stop looking down on other women, but from what I've seen, her personality is set in stone.
 
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Birdnman993 said:
Hmm, I think you have the wrong idea about the game. If this were a game of choices, there would be alternatives to progress.
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Not necessarily. Usually it is just endings. Actually in many, if not most, such games there are very linear stories, but endings are different depending on your choices during the game (or even just a single one at the end).
There are very few games where choices matter so much that a game starts to follow an alternative route based on them. One of such games is Good Girl Gone Bad. But usually it takes so much time to implement that games with such choices are usually abandoned or ended abruptly. For example, there was that game I liked called The Point of No Return that turned to shit the moment it started branching.
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She's a well-defined character with a defined personality, and that can't be changed.
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In most cases it is terrible storytelling when a character of a story is unchanged after the events that have happened to her/him. I've already talked about it a lot from this post and further - https://f95zone.to/threads/fashion-business-ep-4-v11-00-extra-decentmonkey.11501/post-14914120
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I'd like Monica to learn some humility from everything she's been through and stop looking down on other women, but from what I've seen, her personality is set in stone.
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Couldn't agree more. It is silly when Monica is stading on her knees in the slums all covered in tattoos drinking pee, but still her internal dialogue is, "I'm the best. It is only temporarily. It is only a minor setback. I'm not like all other whores. I'll get my life back." Come on... WTF is that? It is simply stupid.
That is all right for the revenge ending or maybe the ending where eventually she gets her old life back. More than that, I think that exactly how it should be. But the same crap for every ending no matter what....
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it will be interesting if Monica will participate in some freak show like p diddy s girl
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It would be awesome. But some of the fans of the game will tell you that Monica is above all that. She is a strong and independent woman and will never participate in such activities.
 
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Birdnman993 said:
Monica is not a character that can be molded to our liking. She's a well-defined character with a defined personality, and that can't be changed. I'd like Monica to learn some humility from everything she's been through and stop looking down on other women, but from what I've seen, her personality is set in stone.
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I love this game because i love games where the personality of the main character cannot be changed! It comes with a solid story
I hate game games where the player change the personality of the MC just with one or 2 choices. (inconsistent stories)
qazxsw80 said:
There are very few games where choices matter so much that a game starts to follow an alternative route based on them.
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This is not true
If by “choices matter” you mean choices that change not only the paths and the ending but also the personality of the MC, well these kinds of games are made to please everyone but ultimately displease everyone in 90% of games of this type.
You can't write a coherent story if the main character is a good girl in one path and an unrestrained whore in another...this, especially in an adult game, creates a total imbalance in favor of the path with the total whore... )in fact, I don't think there are any people who have ever played GGGB on the path where she remains pure-
That girl will end up being more or less slutty because the store describes the path of a good girl who becomes bad-

A good game must have a solid story and the choices can change the plot and dialogues but should never change the personality of the protagonist... sure the protagonist can improve or worsen his situation according to the choices encountered during the evolution of the story. leading her/him eventually toward success (Good Ending) or failure (Bad ending) of his initial plans and also including intermediate endings in which the MC achieves only part of what he set out to achieve.
Monica's story is peculiar...in fact the choices only count to cut the paths you don't like... this is not my cup of tea but for me, for example, I cut Julia quest completely and not just because watching two lesbians having sex is not what I prefer...but because Julia is really ugly and too hairy as a female... and I hate women who are hairy in their armpits and don't shave their leg hair...
sorry but Julia reminds me of that kind of woman:sick:(n)(n)

FB is an average game for me and often it doesn't make me want to keep playing it and I have already abandoned a lot of previous chapters but I want to get to the final!
It would be great if the dev will start a VN version!

Going back to the term "choices matter" .. they are games in which the MC has not her/his own personality and he is a puppet in the hands of the player's desires. these games are children's fairy tales in which the writer is an ass-guard who to avoid complaints creates a blatantly fantasy story that cannot tell anything interesting to me...
These kinds of games are tales with no chance of trying to teach the player the difference between reality and fantasy.

Just my 2 cents
 
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No word since mid April god I hope their is more Vicky content to make up for her poor treatment in the last update:D

Just curious why are like 99% of subscribers follow Decent Monkey through Patreon instead of Subcribestar am I wrong and missing something from Patreon?
 
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