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With as slow as Crush writes, adding a lot of paths now just invites an even slower development of the plot, esecially as the story portion being told right now isn't even part of the main quest.
HTML Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]
- Aug 6, 2016
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Can't speak for other players, but for me, the life path was always pointless. Why? Because the majority of things established there won't matter in the main game. Shape of your family? Who cares. Social status? Meaningless. Your curriculum and grades? Again no impact.
What's important is that our agent went through her spy training and was sexually adventurous in her youth. That's it. That's the starting point for all agents.
Sure, you could argue that if for example she was a cheerleader, she will have an easier time learning new dance moves. Or if she knows language x, so she will learn something, agent not knowing that language won't.
There is just one tiny problem with that. Either all those things have to be cosmetic, and have no impact on a main quest. You got +1 to dance roll, but you learn your moves either way. You don't know the language, but some other bar girl does, and she tells you what she heard. So, basically you want to delay development of a main quest for a few 'flavor' paragraphs here and there. Or you expect that Crush, guy who struggles with delivering linear updates in a timely manner, will suddenly be able to create diverse paths taking into account all the details established in the life path and finish the game in our lifetime.
In short, I have a problem with bringing life path back, because I would like to play finished product before 2030.
- Jun 24, 2017
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I will start with this, I 100% agree with everything that Riven said and I will complete with:
Crush has a lot of ideas, but over the years I noticed that he is unable to turn those ideas into a final product. Sometime he adds stuff that is not important in the grand scale of things or adds stuff that is never completed. For example:
- the current character creator
- does the nationality of our character matter in any way? I would say it doesn't. Sure, there is a different paragraph somewhere if you are a Aussie or if you are from US. But that is not enough to replay the game, there is no point to try something different if 99.5% is exactly the same.
- Is the character creator complete ? No, there was a previous version that offered more options in terms of skin color, tattoos, piercings, hair and so on.
- life path
- at one point the life path was done and he managed to get to the initial starting point of the game. Later he went back to rewrite everything. If he goes back again, I am sure that he will rewrite certain paragraphs and of course, after he is done with the life path, he has to rewrite everything from Bangkok.
- from Bangkok
- in the last update, he added the character portraits, but those are not available in the first part of the story
- he added 4 ways of viewing the mission, the way you talk after the CIA has access to all the club's cameras. Those options where used once and later forgotten
- he added a suspicious meter in the girls night out, which again, disappeared in this update and was not added in the older chapters
- the relationship that you have with other character is not important
- even the other skills bj, sex, etc don't change things too much
If you want to see how real choices look like, give Our Red String a try.
This is just my two cents on the matter, maybe I am wrong.
There will be a lot of work integrating the Lifepath into the current game. More than what was mentioned in Crush's update, probably better just using the Lifepath in a different game. The 1.6.3 version of the Lifepath broke the game in my view due the sheer number of outcomes (chaste to a cheating deviant nymphomaniac)
I agree that it is a lot of work and I have stated myself that there are way too may mechanics in the game that are pointless. I am not denying any of this.
However, Crush thinks that the Lifepath adds something to the game. Whether you or I agree with it, doesn't matter. If he as the developer wants to have it in the game, that's the way it is and the earlier he integrates it, the better. I can fully understand why some people are against it. I understand the reasoning, but if he believes it would add something, better to do it now and build from there rather than finishing the main story and go back to the beginning. Heck, just a few pages ago, I mentioned that it might be a better way to adress the Lifepath the way he did it in this update. By having conversations with other characters or flashbacks. I kind of liked that. Of course, you are still left with the problem that all of the choices need to have a meaning.
I am sceptical as well when it comes to the overall picture of the game and his ability to turn ideas into actions, but I can't fault him for having ideas and I can't fault him for providing content.
See, this is my issue. I don't mind him (or any other dev) providing content that isn't for me as long as they're producing content. He has a poor track record when it comes to that and we all know it. It's become a running joke. However, the last update came rather quick after the previous one and he is already working on the next one while giving the impression that he's planning ahead in terms of bringing back the Lifepath.
I can't fault him for that as long as he delivers regularly.
However, Crush thinks that the Lifepath adds something to the game. Whether you or I agree with it, doesn't matter. If he as the developer wants to have it in the game, that's the way it is and the earlier he integrates it, the better. I can fully understand why some people are against it. I understand the reasoning, but if he believes it would add something, better to do it now and build from there rather than finishing the main story and go back to the beginning. Heck, just a few pages ago, I mentioned that it might be a better way to adress the Lifepath the way he did it in this update. By having conversations with other characters or flashbacks. I kind of liked that. Of course, you are still left with the problem that all of the choices need to have a meaning.
I am sceptical as well when it comes to the overall picture of the game and his ability to turn ideas into actions, but I can't fault him for having ideas and I can't fault him for providing content.
See, this is my issue. I don't mind him (or any other dev) providing content that isn't for me as long as they're producing content. He has a poor track record when it comes to that and we all know it. It's become a running joke. However, the last update came rather quick after the previous one and he is already working on the next one while giving the impression that he's planning ahead in terms of bringing back the Lifepath.
I can't fault him for that as long as he delivers regularly.
Woow... this legendary milking farm still functionating? 
There is no limit for ppl stupidity.
There is no limit for ppl stupidity.
- Aug 6, 2016
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Which is precisely the same thing he thought when he was adding all those other mechanics we now perceive as pointless.
Sadly, I'm well aware of it.
Hard disagree. If he finishes the main story, then we have more or less finished game. We can see how the story ends, even if we are sacrificing some minor details.
Nothing wrong with having ideas, as long as you can recognize which of them are feasible.
Three months for shortish linear update is not really quick. It might be quick for Crush, but if anything it should scare you. Imagine him adding branching where our heroine have sex with VIPs, or conversely they get too handsy, and she smashes the glass on one of them and bouncers have to intervene. Then we get consequences of that. This would probably triple development time for one branching scene.
Same way he was planning ahead with side quest episodes?
Yeah I'm gonna be honest that the developer of this game does too many useless things such as give the options of choosing your nationality or different ways to complete a task or the dice roll.
Bruh this is a sex game that people use to jack off, even the "character" portraits are never seen, you gotta click on it.
The only thing good about this game is the customizable model and you only see yours anyways.
The writing is too boring and not sex related enough. Pacing is super slow as well.
Not enough visuals as well. Overall this game needs a huge improvement, I doubt anyone would like the game were it not for the character model which looks pretty good. The piercings and tattoo options are great but limited. Also lack of skintone and hair color options as well.
Bruh this is a sex game that people use to jack off, even the "character" portraits are never seen, you gotta click on it.
The only thing good about this game is the customizable model and you only see yours anyways.
The writing is too boring and not sex related enough. Pacing is super slow as well.
Not enough visuals as well. Overall this game needs a huge improvement, I doubt anyone would like the game were it not for the character model which looks pretty good. The piercings and tattoo options are great but limited. Also lack of skintone and hair color options as well.
Again, I would disagree with that. Yes, from our point of view, it would be desirable. Why? Because we would get a version 1.0 and could move on. So would lots of his patreons. So I can fully understand why he wouldn't want to do that. After all, this isn't a professional studio that has a set budget and has to deliver in a given time frame. He gets his income on a monthly basis and is at the whim of his patreons. Why wouldn't he drag it out? I am not even talking about scamming or anything like that, but as long as people endorse his vision and his progress, he doesn't have to justify himself.
And like I said, I, too, am at odds with many of his decisions and I doub't he'll ever find a way to use all of the mechanics that have been introduced at some point, but then again, I am not the one paying him.
Do I think the game needs dice rolls or do they make sense? No.
Kinks/traits? Yes.
Skills? Probably not as there isn't really any way to gain XP to level them up.
Suspicions system? Could be, but that would require consequences and therefor lots of branching.
Like/dislike? See above.
I probably even missed something, but if he sorts out wich one of these he wants to keep and actually use them. Fine. If you do that by revisiting the Lifepath and therefor setup your character, even better.
- Jun 8, 2017
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Serious question: If you take away all player agency, rpg mechanics etc, and basically make this a kinetic novel (what the game currently is), and I agree, this is probably the only way this game will have at least some very minor progress, what is left then?
If you take all that away and make this a pretty standard slutification novel with a small spy mission thrown in now and then, is this something you all are interested in? I'm not trying to senselessly trash the game, but I'm seriously wondering. Sure, the writing is definitely above average (outside the sexy parts, I don't think the "game" is particularly sexy), but other than that, I really don't see the appeal of whatever is left of the initial premise.
If you take all that away and make this a pretty standard slutification novel with a small spy mission thrown in now and then, is this something you all are interested in? I'm not trying to senselessly trash the game, but I'm seriously wondering. Sure, the writing is definitely above average (outside the sexy parts, I don't think the "game" is particularly sexy), but other than that, I really don't see the appeal of whatever is left of the initial premise.
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My brother-in-fap, there is no player agency in female agent. It is a kinetic novel. Numerous users pointed it out, even on this page. The only thing decent about it, is the writing, which comes painfully slow and in comparison to creators on, say, literotica, isn't even that good. Which should be a good indication for all, at least, decent writers for how to use their talent: turn the secret erotic novel you keep in your hidden folder and just turn it into a kinetic novel run by twine or something. Everybody would be gain that way. Amateur writers with passion and a bit of talent could make extra money. Community on sites like this, would get a much richer spectrum of storytellers. And guys like dev of this 'game' would actually feel pressure to update SoonTm.
Yes, personally i'd still find the premise and execution interesting enough i'd like to read the resulting story. Basically, i already do find the game in its current form interesting, so if that's how it goes to the end (i.e with minor choices which don't really matter all that much) that's fine with me.
- Jun 24, 2017
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I don't think anyone really wishes to take out certain mechanics from the game. But those mechanics should do something and adding more (by reintroducing life path) and not using them can be viewed as a waste of time, in a game where the story progresses at slower pace. In my opinion you could achieve a far better game if you use what you already have and create some narrative branches based on that. For example:
You can start with two main ways of playing the agent. The perfect agent path - an agent that is very good at being a spy and knows how to use every tools that she has, from physical spy tools to sex appeal, in order to get the mission done, while avoiding sex as much as possible. The novice agent - an agent that is not too good in the field, she has to compensate by extracting as much information as possible after sex.
The first scene with Conner could look a lot different. The CIA is not stupid, it knows that they need to infiltrate someone in the club and the best way of achieving this is by creating demand. They somehow made a current bottle girl leave the club. Now Conner needs to find someone to replace her, which means that he doesn't hold all the power during the casting scene. Let the agent choose how she wants to move forward. Will she refuse Conner completely? will she play hard to get and attempt to befriend Conner (the boss) by offering a BJ and letting him want more? Or maybe she will let Conner fuck her, because she is afraid that there is no other option. Out of this 3 option, the agent that went on path B could end up keeping her job as a bargirl just because Conner wants her all for himself. Making her a bargirl would mean that he looses her.
Split the birlgirls in two groups: some girls that enjoy their lifestyle and the fact that it is easy for them to make money and other that don't, but know how to handle the clients in some other ways. They can look only for generous customers and lie that they want to marry them, or just seduce them just by dancing, or doing softcore stuff. If you are a really good friend with some girl, you can turn her into an asset. If you are not, maybe she will try to compromise you and you need to take care of her, sabotage her job. If you proved that you are a good agent, the CIA could offer you a certain budget. You can use those money to pretend that you went out to an outcall: CIA could fake call Miss forgot her name and ask for you. You leave the club for an hour and later return with the money. Is this good fap material, no. But at least you'll have a choice. That combined with the fact that a birgirl will have an easier job to get information about the Develfish vs one that sticks to the bottle girl position and has to do more spy missions in order to get the same information. Each spy mission should also be harder and harder. One mistake and the Thai Organize Crime will catch you and the story will end.
So I don't know, I think you can create a story without knowing if your first part time job from high school was in a restaurant or in pizza hut.
I actually pitched something pretty identical to Crush 18 months ago, probably longer ago. Fairly easy to add in but would have a ripple effect on all the other scenes. You could play a clever agent who takes a hard fail later on, or a complete doormat.
There is a theme with this game though, everyone gets caught up on the potential.
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- Jan 10, 2018
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People should remember that this portion of the game is the introduction. There aren't meaningful choices because Crush wants to start the gameplay portion of the game (if and when that ever arrives) from a given point in the FA's mission. I have encouraged Crush to stick to the main story so as to get to the gameplay, but others have convinced him that he needs to do these side missions (maybe because, even after all this time, he's not sure what the actual gameplay will be like).
Having lots of choices (or, for that matter, side missions or a revival of the lifepath) just delays the introduction to the part of the game where we can actually play a game, which is what I want to see.
Having lots of choices (or, for that matter, side missions or a revival of the lifepath) just delays the introduction to the part of the game where we can actually play a game, which is what I want to see.
- Aug 30, 2017
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People are complaining this game is taking way too long for the little bit of content it offers. Initially this seemed like a choice directed game. But then everything turned out extremely linear, and the maker spent many years working on an avatar system.
- Aug 30, 2017
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I said it long time ago that I'm don't think Crush knows what kind of game Female Agent will be... or more to the point, what kind of game he wants it to be. Not knowing what the gameplay will be like is natural consequence of that.