HTML Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]

[Smellfire]

Bloke is probably a grad A Narcissist. I find it quite fun watching some devs justify the unjustifiable, and then people stick up for their controlling behaviour.

Still, wouldn't happen in the real world!

 

[asdfasdf12341234ACSACA]

This was a gem from the Discord today:
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I mean...there's an inflection point somewhere down the line, right? Or is infinite waiting for 'great update' also okay?

(Cough, already great 'game'? Where's the game currently?)

IN the real world, game development takes times to finish

In the real world, stakeholders also demand tangible progress periodically.

 

[boobthief]

Nobody is asking him to release an update every month, but to sit and defend him when he’s spent an entire year hyping up his grand plan to add old content back into the game because he can’t drive the story forward while delivering zero meaningful updates is delusional levels of sycophantic behaviour that will only encourage him to keep doing it.

Why do you care? (And you do care, you care enough to follow their game and post about it.)

A significant number of their paying supporters wanted them to work on the "life path" (btw, it's not just adding old content, saying that is disingenuous) and are clearly happy with their pace of development as evidenced by their continued financial support for it.

Is it because you love their game and want more?

 

[Vibesy]

Why do you care? (And you do care, you care enough to follow their game and post about it.)

A significant number of their paying supporters wanted them to work on the "life path" (btw, it's not just adding old content, saying that is disingenuous) and are clearly happy with their pace of development as evidenced by their continued financial support for it.

Is it because you love their game and want more?

A significant number of paying supporters (I used to be one) wanted to see Kate become a Bangkok bargirl/whore, which was the original promise of the game. But Crush will do everything in his power to tease that without ever delivering because that is the basis of the extremely lucrative grift he has going. Hence, his bi-weekly shucking and jiving on Patreon, the ridiculous MOAB development and a projected 2-3 year additional development time for a regurgitated lifepath. In actuality, no one was asking Crush to drop the Bangkok storyline to go back to the lifepath- that was his unilateral decision almost a year ago.

Frankly, after seven years, the main question isn't whether people "love" the game and "want more". Female Agent is far more interesting today as a Star Citizen type cautionary tale in the AVN space of an unprincipled developer stringing along well meaning supporters to line his own pockets.

 

[vicaddict]

Why do you care? (And you do care, you care enough to follow their game and post about it.)

Is it because you love their game and want more?

At this point most people are just taking the piss out of it, because there is nothing else you can do. It has become a meme and the reason for that is not that people suddenly decided to gang up on him. He did this to himself and in all fairness, I don't think that he needs to care as he makes money off of it. GG to him.

That being said, please do remind me as I am getting older and my brain turns to mush at a faster pace these days, but didn't FA use to have an interactive system and he decided to walk away from it? Now he is bringing it back? Good lord. He truly is stuck in a loop.

 

[boobthief]

In actuality, no one was asking Crush to drop the Bangkok storyline to go back to the lifepath- that was his unilateral decision almost a year ago.

That's not what happened. 48 comments on this Patreon post, many asked for the life path:

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FWIW, I don't like the life path. I think the juvenile stuff is weird. I don't want to watch young James Bond's driving lessons.

Frankly, after seven years, the main question isn't whether people "love" the game and "want more". Female Agent is far more interesting today as a Star Citizen type cautionary tale in the AVN space of an unprincipled developer stringing along well meaning supporters to line his own pockets.

I also follow Star Citizen for the learned lessons (and lulz).

But I don't hate Star Citizen or Female Agent. If they make a good game update I'd pay and play.

I just find it fascinating how this game (and other tardy developed adult games e.g. AWAM, JOHN) capture people. The power of boners, right?!

 

[boobthief]

At this point most people are just taking the piss out of it, because there is nothing else you can do. It has become a meme and the reason for that is not that people suddenly decided to gang up on him. He did this to himself and in all fairness, I don't think that he needs to care as he makes money off of it. GG to him.

That being said, please do remind me as I am getting older and my brain turns to mush at a faster pace these days, but didn't FA use to have an interactive system and he decided to walk away from it? Now he is bringing it back? Good lord. He truly is stuck in a loop.

GG to him. I agree with that. They're working on something. Might not be as fast as people want or even what people want but, evidentially, people want to pay for it.

I don't know what is the latest iteration of the interactive system. Last I saw there was some kind of sex flowchart and XP stats for being a drone pilot. Maybe they collide in the filming of some glorious avant garde sex scene. Go figure.

Like a lot of misguided adult game developers, I think they forgot to put the porn in their porn game.

 

[Vibesy]

That's not what happened. 48 comments on this Patreon post, many asked for the life path:

You must be registered to see the links

A starving man will gratefully accept a cracker if that is the only nourishment available.

The thread you point to came five months after the previous official release- a period during which Crush repeatedly complained that the material he was working on wasn't "hot" enough, that he was struggling, needed a break and new direction etc. Furthermore, there were numerous objections in that thread and many commenters didn't seem to grasp that Crush would drop Bangkok to focus exclusively on the lifepath for a deliberately indeterminate period. Note as well in the seven months since that thread Crush has produced exactly nothing- although based on a recent discord post, a "small" update may still be coming this year. Oh, and that may include additional skin tones & brows for the game's sole avatar lol.

The decision to postpone the Bangkok storyline for multiple years in order to take a third stab at the lifepath was not a supporter-driven decision. It was Crush slapping a veneer of feedback to obscure a fait accompli that conveniently prolongs development indefinitely.

 

[Troqu]

Not to mention, a lot of the people "asking for it" seemed to just be responding based on the glowing interpretation in that post alone. As is often the case on Patreon, people often say to do stuff without realizing just how much WORK the proposed features are. Because to them its just a feature to play, not something to be developed. If that post had a realistic timeline on how long it would take to add it in, and being generous to not even need to mention said timeline included stopping all other content development, a lot of those players would not have been as enthused.

 

[IjjKpoe]

Not to mention, a lot of the people "asking for it" seemed to just be responding based on the glowing interpretation in that post alone. As is often the case on Patreon, people often say to do stuff without realizing just how much WORK the proposed features are. Because to them its just a feature to play, not something to be developed. If that post had a realistic timeline on how long it would take to add it in, and being generous to not even need to mention said timeline included stopping all other content development, a lot of those players would not have been as enthused.

Lucky this is a "independent" game because if i went to my Boss i said "you don't realise how hard it is (doing my job) i can't!" i think i would have problems.

I keep going back to this part of the forum and every week people have the same cyclic discussion; Developer is just scamming people, it's the "The Day Before" of the porn games. Promise something to re-do it later, half done updates to later be re-re-re-done and kinda stupid paying Patreons happy to pay for a product that clearly it's not goin to be finished ever.

 

[boobthief]

A starving man will gratefully accept a cracker if that is the only nourishment available.

That's... why you're here?

The decision to postpone the Bangkok storyline for multiple years in order to take a third stab at the lifepath was not a supporter-driven decision. It was Crush slapping a veneer of feedback to obscure a fait accompli that conveniently prolongs development indefinitely.

Your proof that the majority of supporters reject the lifepath (that's how voting works, right)?

Because Graphtreon shows they still have 2000 hardcore members. Can you dig it?

You may not like it. I don't like it. So I just don't give them money. But I also don't bitch about it.

 

[Vibesy]

I'm here mostly for the Lols, because if I was here for the game updates I'd be seriously wasting my time.

You, on the other hand, have posted in this thread consistently for five years, mostly to defend Crush, but also frequently to complain about other posts. So who is the bitch exactly?

Wake me up when Kate starts turning tricks in Bangkok... or graduates from High School, whichever comes first.

 

[orellion]

That's... why you're here?



Your proof that the majority of supporters reject the lifepath (that's how voting works, right)?

Because Graphtreon shows they still have 2000 hardcore members. Can you dig it?

You may not like it. I don't like it. So I just don't give them money. But I also don't bitch about it.

$1 a month isn't exactly hardcore. That's what the majority give, not $5. Does $1 even buy a candy bar anymore? They see the game isn't abandoned, and was pretty good at one time, so its enough to not make them reach for the unsub button

 

[Pede rasta 1]

You fools don't realize what's going on here?
All you have to do is look at the real world, the US supported ISIS in Libya and Syria because it suits them, just like when it supported Al-Qaeda and the mujahideen in Afghanistan against Russia and then pretended to fight them in order to traffic heroin in the rest of the world.

What does all this have to do with the female agent? Don't you know? It's not obvious, she's looking for an Islamic terrorist that she'll never catch, why? He surely works with the same intelligence services that our female agent serves... obviously!!!
Her mission is just to be a honey pot, that's what agents from all the intelligence services in the world do to keep the virile Islamic terrorists happy or to become the whore of handsome Russian spies, or to spy on the allied industrialists.
Now tell me if this isn't what is happening in real life right now???
At this level there are only two options, either Crush will receive a literature novel for his hyper-realistic game or he will have to flee to Russia with Snowden when the intelligence services find out about this new leak or he will end up like Assange in prison.
F95zone is the new Wikileaks and all of you are screwed but especially those who give money to Crush, those are the ones who are really screwed for financing spies

 

[Mister-Wolf]

STUFF

My man has seen through the lies of the true Deep State. WE They will come for him soon enough.

 

[wowdank2]

Some people are in too deep and to admit that they've spend a year paying for nothing would hit them in the ego so they're denying it. People tend to not like admitting that they're wrong.

It's like crypto, the patrons are "holding" the bag, and the bag is being taken away slowly so you barely notice but it's happening.

This happens when the creator of the content(game) get's more known and stakes his livelihood/identity on the game doing "good". He has these imaginary expectations and a bar inside his head where he feels constant pressure to rise it higher each update. Then a passion project that had ideas flow turns into a job where it has to be a "hit" each time and the fear starts to grow of him not living up to the hype or expectations.

Then the procrastination kicks in and the more you delay the more expectations you build until you look around and (6)months have passed. Eventually, it becomes unmanageable. This is content creep at its finest. He has to realise that releasing "good enough" content is sometimes fine to keep the status quo and your game relevant.

Now this is quite trivial considering that this is an h-game and we're all pirates, but when there's money involved I think it becomes and entirely different thing. It would be fine if he paused billing to take a creative break and regroup but not listening to your audience's feedback is one of many things that are detrimental to this project.

 

[Ripe]

The whole problem with Lifepath is that Crush already scrapped it twice because he didn't know what to do with it! He simply couldn't figure out how to use it within his game. Which is why all those skills and stats were barely used.

And nothing he wrote now makes me think he figured that out... until he figures it out how those skills and stats will be used in the game, all the work on it that he does is practically useless.

That is the problem with a whole lot of mechanics he developed so far... he build them, but they were never used for anything. And were never even mentioned after the update they were introduced in.

 

[NotRacist]

This was a gem from the Discord today:
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I mean...there's an inflection point somewhere down the line, right? Or is infinite waiting for 'great update' also okay?

(Cough, already great 'game'? Where's the game currently?)

actual paypigs theyve gone too deep into the fetish

 

[Lurkin23]

How long has it been since this game's been updated? Shouldn't it have the 'Abandoned' tag already?

I was wrong. I thought it would be scrapped a 3rd time, and the next time it'd start in Bangcock, guess it's scrapped entirely instead.

 

[Leiafanman]

The whole problem with Lifepath is that Crush already scrapped it twice because he didn't know what to do with it! He simply couldn't figure out how to use it within his game. Which is why all those skills and stats were barely used.

And nothing he wrote now makes me think he figured that out... until he figures it out how those skills and stats will be used in the game, all the work on it that he does is practically useless.

That is the problem with a whole lot of mechanics he developed so far... he build them, but they were never used for anything. And were never even mentioned after the update they were introduced in.

Yeah as someone who's fucked around with Twine a bit, making these systems barely helps anything get easier and generally you end up wasting a ton of time to make your game a more bloated broken mess. End of the day you still have to write everything yourself; the most twine will do is keep track of variables and maybe a rudimentary inventory system (which FA doesn't even try to have other than occasionally with the clothes) or economy (which FA could also benefit from).

Like the dice roll shit; if you actually want non-linear results you have to write a bunch of alternative branches for different rolls. This takes a ton of time and gets complicated and means you're writing content that might never get seen - and crush obviously doesn't want to do that most of the time - so the dice system becomes pointless chaff.

If he'd just keep writing the mostly-linear CYOA scenarios in the world he's created I'd be happy enough. He's a good writer in terms of flow and eroticism, and he could just write female agent spy stories (like his little one-off story last year) and not be locked to this one mission ad infinitum. He could add to the clothing system and do other time periods, sci-fi, WHATEVER, just use the framework to write enduring sexy stories.

Then too, and I know I've mentioned it before, he could also easily add some hub and spoke sections to FA, add a money grind or a corruption grind to make the game gamier.