Mister-Wolf

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Holy fucking shit the madlad actually kept the suckers on the hook for a whole year without an update. It's only $60k a year but that's just a solid grift. Better than most HTML "coders"
 
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hallsigns

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You're still addicted to this game. If you didn't care then you wouldn't waste your time.

See you in a month (when you occasionally log in) or as soon as this game update drops?
Whelp a month later... like I mentioned before I check on updates infrequently to games I have enjoyed. I have contemplated not following this game for a while because I followed when it literally first came out and thought it was a unique concept... but as someone else pointed out it was not updated once in 2024. It's been rebooted twice. It has less content than it did a few ears ago. Copycat games literally have more content. And once again... you haven't said anything constructive regarding why I should like this game... it certainly isn't the mindless fanboy community that thinks we are insane and "mean" in this forum.
 

hallsigns

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Yeah that's fair I just wasn't sure if he made another promise he can't keep. Really I only follow this because it's funny enough seeing this thread. If he does something monumentally stupid in his discord I'll never know if someone doesn't share it here.
At this point it's the only reason I follow... I think I've given up on this particular game. Honestly some of the inspo copycat games are better.
 
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hallsigns

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I don't believe Crush left his day job for even a second.

I don't believe that Victoria is to blame for the delays either for the simple reason that even if it had taken her 6 months to ship the artwork for eye-shadow, Crush would still have had time to write the scenes and sort the coding. He might not have been able to ship a final version as the assets would not have been in place but a) there were already avatar assets in place and b) he could have turned off the avatar and shipped an alpha as proof that he hasn't spent the entire year avoiding working on the game.

No... Crush's problem is that while he's able to ship code, he can't ship text. He would rather strip a game down to brass tacks over and over again than sit down and write a sex scene. He can plan until the cows come home and spend months tweaking code around the sex scenes but he cannot or will not sit down and actually write. Everything else, from the art, to the skills system, to the avatars, to the (awful sounding) dynamic sex system are displacement activities. He can't write and he's too stubborn to hire someone in to do the writing work for him.
At this point he could use AI to write a scene...
 

boobthief

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And once again... you haven't said anything constructive regarding why I should like this game... it certainly isn't the mindless fanboy community that thinks we are insane and "mean" in this forum.
No offence intended, but I don't care if you like this game. I'm not writing/developing/marketing it. So why would I?

I really like it. I love the writing: 007 undercover + travel immersion + sexy corruption. Love the polished kisekae graphics and UI too.

Play it (or don't) when it releases. The world will keep on turning. If you enjoy their work then I encourage you to pay for it, as I do as a general principle.
 
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boobthief

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My guy.... If I go to the restaurant and pay for a table and have to wait, fine. But if they close the doors for the night without ever giving me a table I just got scammed. See how that works? Do you see how people might think they've been scammed if it has been over a year without an update but he's still making nearly 5k? The only way your scenario works is if Crush was actually doing something, he has claimed over and over that he works ridiculous hours, I don't believe him anymore, he's a liar and a scammer and I'm telling people not to support him.
Crush is cooking. In the kitchen making something amazing. Should have come out with a tasting menu months ago. But that's what is on offer at this restaurant. Could you do better? Fuck, no. Don't like it? Leave your self-imposed cage. Play any of the many games for free here. Come back, if you wanna.

If you paid and were unaware of the history of development then you have right to mald.

If you didn't pay then you are the bum outside the restaurant ranting about your free meal.
 

boobthief

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Hey bipbopboop,

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but love and hate are just two sides of the same coin. Everyone cares enough to share their thoughts, whether positive or negative. It’s all about how constructive and civil the comments are.
Sounds agreeable but you opened with an insult calling me a bot. So civility isn't you.

Let me reiterate: Crush is a fantastic writer, but project management and coding are not his strong suits. He should focus on writing the story rather than chasing new features. Remember, Tolkien completed "Lord of the Rings" before it became a movie classic. Similarly, "Disco Elysium" had its final cut only after the initial release.
Yes! Good writer. Bad at project management. Coding seems fine.

Not sure point you're trying to make with the Tolkien movies analogy. The Lord of the Rings, the books, sold c. 150m copies. Tolkien died while working on multiple other works, including an abandoned sequel. Maybe a GRRM analogy would fit better?

Dollars spent shouldn't dictate the right to comment—as long as the feedback is logical and valid, why not? Most of bipbopboop's replies are ad hominem attacks like "hey Elon." If you're not Crush, discuss the real issues: How can FA development be faster? Is it fair to Patreons for updates to be skipped or the project reset? Lobsterman, for example, advised his fans to unsubscribe until he could update.
Strawman debunked: Obviously, you can comment whatever you want. I think if you don't care enough to pay for something then your opinion is devalued because you did not support the artist. Especially if it tips over into trying to defund the artist. Just move on, leave your self-imposed cage.

'Elon, is that you?' was a response to: It's toxic because dumb bots like you pay him to literally do fucking nothing. I'm poking fun at you and him for calling me a bot.

There are better ways to handle downtime. Transparency and accountability isn't about "haters."

It's called adulting.
Yes, game devs should be accountable - if you paid! Not sure about transparency - that's conditional - some game devs offer such insights (for extra pay tiers) most do not.

You lost a claim to 'adulting' when you called me names. I did too for calling people names. But you can't claim the high ground when you're rolling around in the shit. On fire. With no legs. Welcome to the shit.
 

IjjKpoe

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Sounds agreeable but you opened with an insult calling me a bot. So civility isn't you.



Yes! Good writer. Bad at project management. Coding seems fine.

Not sure point you're trying to make with the Tolkien movies analogy. The Lord of the Rings, the books, sold c. 150m copies. Tolkien died while working on multiple other works, including an abandoned sequel. Maybe a GRRM analogy would fit better?



Strawman debunked: Obviously, you can comment whatever you want. I think if you don't care enough to pay for something then your opinion is devalued because you did not support the artist. Especially if it tips over into trying to defund the artist. Just move on, leave your self-imposed cage.

'Elon, is that you?' was a response to: It's toxic because dumb bots like you pay him to literally do fucking nothing. I'm poking fun at you and him for calling me a bot.



Yes, game devs should be accountable - if you paid! Not sure about transparency - that's conditional - some game devs offer such insights (for extra pay tiers) most do not.

You lost a claim to 'adulting' when you called me names. I did too for calling people names. But you can't claim the high ground when you're rolling around in the shit. On fire. With no legs. Welcome to the shit.
You know whats a real strawman? Everything you said. It just have 0 value, mindless trash and a complete waste of time reading you.

Your only argument; You didn't pay, you cannot complain.

By this flawless logic i shouldn't complain if i see any Crush fanboy stabbing someone on the street who "hated" his developer and owner of his credit card because.... meh he's not paying me to defend him! If he wanted me to call 911 should have paid me!

Repeat after me; YOU-DON'T-NEED-TO-PAY-FOR-SOMETHING-TO-DENOUNCE-IT'S-BAD-PRAXIS
 

boobthief

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You know whats a real strawman? Everything you said. It just have 0 value, mindless trash and a complete waste of time reading you.

Your only argument; You didn't pay, you cannot complain.

By this flawless logic i shouldn't complain if i see any Crush fanboy stabbing someone on the street who "hated" his developer and owner of his credit card because.... meh he's not paying me to defend him! If he wanted me to call 911 should have paid me!

Repeat after me; YOU-DON'T-NEED-TO-PAY-FOR-SOMETHING-TO-DENOUNCE-IT'S-BAD-PRAXIS
You know when I said I get weird stalker vibes from you? This is why.

Why the fuck are you talking about people getting stabbed on the street?

This is forum thread discussing a game. Your mind continues to go to dark places, emboldened by the other haters you identify with, but these people are not your friends. Seek professional help.
 

Kalenz123

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You know whats a real strawman? Everything you said. It just have 0 value, mindless trash and a complete waste of time reading you.

Your only argument; You didn't pay, you cannot complain.

By this flawless logic i shouldn't complain if i see any Crush fanboy stabbing someone on the street who "hated" his developer and owner of his credit card because.... meh he's not paying me to defend him! If he wanted me to call 911 should have paid me!

Repeat after me; YOU-DON'T-NEED-TO-PAY-FOR-SOMETHING-TO-DENOUNCE-IT'S-BAD-PRAXIS
Are you ok?
 

Prawnstar69

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You lost a claim to 'adulting' when you called me names. I did too for calling people names.
Bipbop, people call you a bot because you continue to BEHAVE like one.

Let's address this imaginary point system you have: I reckon most don't really care about your name calling, most people here are addressing bad BEHAVIOUR (i.e. Crush and his reasons, SANS any real releases). That's the LOTR reference, or GRRM if you prefer. Without finishing book 1, it's all BS.

And that's the point, you as a human (if you're not a bot), keep completely being obtuse about. What's your suggestion for better accountability and transparency? What have you brought the conversation, other than "you didn't pay, therefore cannot comment" ad nauseum? My 2 cents has always been to nudge Crush to finish his book 1, stop dicking around. At least we both seem to agree he's only really good at writing.

So here's my final attempt to bring this thread back to the GAME: Nobody needs to be a victim (or Patreon) to make an observation. Since you like analogies, here's one: imagine seeing a person with a bloody knife, walking towards another whose back is turned. You aren't the victim, so by your logic, you should keep very quiet till the stabbing starts. How about release the world from their "gilded cage" of having opinions about Luigi, unless they provide proof they are insured by UnitedHealthcare?

No bloody knife, you'll probably say: game's been in "development" since 2017 and yet its gone from 3 updates in 2023, to 1 in 2024. All while he's not bothered to pause billing. It's like a ponzi; the first few get paid a bit, then comes the rug pull. Can people make this observation based on behavioural patterns NOW, or will you be back here after "abandoned" tag is added to setup victims support group? If the answer is neither, then you're less helpful than his detractors, at least those making valid points.

If he updated on time, had more content to show vs time in development, or paused billing when the promised release failed to land, I'm sure you'll find the general tone of this thread would change. Go back and reread that sentence, that's 3 actionable suggestions Crush could take to avoid criticism. Over to you sir.
 

IjjKpoe

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You know when I said I get weird stalker vibes from you? This is why.

Why the fuck are you talking about people getting stabbed on the street?

This is forum thread discussing a game. Your mind continues to go to dark places, emboldened by the other haters you identify with, but these people are not your friends. Seek professional help.
Deflection is the art of being wrong but trying to be fun about it so it dosn't hurt your ego.

If you deflect that much on a forum then it's not me who needs professional help.
 
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