HTML Abandoned Female Agent [v1.20.1p] [Crushstation]

[CassieBare]

Genuine questions - any Twine limitations to adding branches to a story later? And is it standard practice to move version number forward, but taking content backward?

Adding branches later? No, as long as you understand the code. I do it all the time in Blue Swallow.

Version number should only move if you are adding/improving current content. Imho, he should revert the version number to something like...1.6 or earlier.

 

[Prawnstar69]

In short,

Adding branches later? No, as long as you understand the code. I do it all the time in Blue Swallow.

Version number should only move if you are adding/improving current content. Imho, he should revert the version number to something like...1.6 or earlier.

In short nothing stopping him from "completing" one story as his perfect vision requires, then adding all the other bells and whistles later.

Well, then if Crush is still lurking, why not follow the money? Since 2020, it's clear the MFAGA and MOABS plans didn't work, and messing around with the lifepath etc didn't actually add much to Patreon.

In other words look at the numbers, your Discord might worship the ground you walk on, but obviously to get new supporters to pay, you'll need to deliver content regularly to reignite interest. We all came for the writing, focus on that.

If the money angle didn't inspire, then keep creating your magnum opus, I wish you well but you'll need a full time job again soon.

 

[Hangfire]

I was really enjoying the game in all its versions, from the nightclub in Scotland to the present release and just want it to continue.
I would love Crush to continue to produce content and as its a free release on here I don't see how I can complain that non is forthcoming but would like some to show up.
If some one else produces a along side project that continues A story of this agent that would be great as I like the agent story and want to see where it goes.


As a side question where is the best place to go to learn how to use renpy, twine or another programe to write these type of games? Thanks

 

[Senor Smut]

Adding branches later? No, as long as you understand the code. I do it all the time in Blue Swallow.

Version number should only move if you are adding/improving current content. Imho, he should revert the version number to something like...1.6 or earlier.

Except he's keeping earlier versions available on his site, so having a lower number would be confusing. For example, he has another 1.6 up there already.

 

[yewfella]

Not too sure why my reply was removed. Maybe it was a mistake? I don't think I said anything unusual. To summarise, if happen to return to this thread, Crushstation, finish the story and worry about multiple paths later. It's strong in its current state as a kinetic novel with some illusion of choice and outcomes from failed dice rolls. The current outfit options add enough interest on top of that.

 

[Kezmark]

Yeah, that's never going to happen though, is it?

I mean the whole problem with this game is that he never had any plan, or idea for what to do with the story. He had a good idea for a premise, and it got way more popular than he ever expected. And that was the problem. It became a job for him, he like doesn't know how to end it, or take it, and has all these people to give ideas and ask for shit that can't ever be implemented and he wants to please, so he's never going to finish it, cause he can't.

Not only does he likely still not have an idea of an ending or how to get there, but if he were to implement all suggestions and choices, then he'd never be able to finish it anyway. He's likely overwhelmed, but he can't quit cause it is still so lucrative. So he just restarts, and redoes shit he already made before to delay the inevitable, or perhaps in the naive thought that perhaps with more time, some kind of fucking revelation will come to him and give him the path forward to completion.

There is absolutely 0 reason for a "game" like this to take this long to complete, let alone to reach the stat it is in. I bet if someone actually took the combined length of the actual written story so far, it would be embarrassing, even when compared to a light novel's length.

And let's face it, whilst his writing quality is great for a porn game, it isn't exactly a fucking literary masterpiece, is it?

 

[okokok]

Yeah, that's never going to happen though, is it?

I mean the whole problem with this game is that he never had any plan, or idea for what to do with the story. He had a good idea for a premise, and it got way more popular than he ever expected. And that was the problem. It became a job for him, he like doesn't know how to end it, or take it, and has all these people to give ideas and ask for shit that can't ever be implemented and he wants to please, so he's never going to finish it, cause he can't.

He spent what, 9 months? planning it all out supposedly. Called it the mother of all beat sheets. Then he chucked that out the nearest window to re-do the life path for some reason

 

[gymnopedies]

Yeah, that's never going to happen though, is it?

I mean the whole problem with this game is that he never had any plan, or idea for what to do with the story. He had a good idea for a premise, and it got way more popular than he ever expected. And that was the problem. It became a job for him, he like doesn't know how to end it, or take it, and has all these people to give ideas and ask for shit that can't ever be implemented and he wants to please, so he's never going to finish it, cause he can't.

Not only does he likely still not have an idea of an ending or how to get there, but if he were to implement all suggestions and choices, then he'd never be able to finish it anyway. He's likely overwhelmed, but he can't quit cause it is still so lucrative. So he just restarts, and redoes shit he already made before to delay the inevitable, or perhaps in the naive thought that perhaps with more time, some kind of fucking revelation will come to him and give him the path forward to completion.

There is absolutely 0 reason for a "game" like this to take this long to complete, let alone to reach the stat it is in. I bet if someone actually took the combined length of the actual written story so far, it would be embarrassing, even when compared to a light novel's length.

And let's face it, whilst his writing quality is great for a porn game, it isn't exactly a fucking literary masterpiece, is it?

Everything you're saying happened in the first two years. Now he's only thinking about how to drag this out as long as possible to keep getting paid, with zero stress. He's only worried about the bad publicity from the reviews.

 

[leg28]

Monday transparency report

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8 hours ago

Hey guys! I worked all 7 days since the last report, no days off. No peace for the wicked.
The changes I made on Friday 5th were really helpful and have made the whole thing much more fun to play. This week I updated multiple scenes to reflect the changes to pacing, structure and tone, and I'm really happy and excited with where the writing is now based on these changes.
This draft has now succeeded at the main thing I wanted it to do (and the main thing I want to keep doing, going forward with the game): make it less of a slideshow. Malaysia now has two separate mission paths ("operator" vs "honeypot", a microcosm of the heroine's whole core conflict – I know that most players will choose "honeypot", but I think the existence of a viable alternative path makes it hotter).
It also has a separate ending, with entirely new NPCs, for players who prefer to skip past the Max mission entirely. This ending's short but I think it's sexy, and kind of sweet. I wrote it on Wednesday, it took 10.5 hours.
There are also lots more skill checks and decision points than there have been in previous episodes.
I need to finish editing the Max date (which I'm partway through doing), and edit the Max sex scene (which I'm hoping to start on by Wed or Thurs this week). Fortunately I think this is going to be pretty straightforward because the changes I made on Fri 5th included big characterisation improvements for Max and the heroine, and it's making their (now optional) chemistry much hotter and easier to write.
Okay, it's been a long day and my brain is mush once more. I will rest it tonight so it is fresh for more work tomorrow. ❤‍
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surprise, surprise.... more hard work, no dates

 

[IjjKpoe]

Monday transparency report

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8 hours ago

Hey guys! I worked all 7 days since the last report, no days off. No peace for the wicked.
The changes I made on Friday 5th were really helpful and have made the whole thing much more fun to play. This week I updated multiple scenes to reflect the changes to pacing, structure and tone, and I'm really happy and excited with where the writing is now based on these changes.
This draft has now succeeded at the main thing I wanted it to do (and the main thing I want to keep doing, going forward with the game): make it less of a slideshow. Malaysia now has two separate mission paths ("operator" vs "honeypot", a microcosm of the heroine's whole core conflict – I know that most players will choose "honeypot", but I think the existence of a viable alternative path makes it hotter).
It also has a separate ending, with entirely new NPCs, for players who prefer to skip past the Max mission entirely. This ending's short but I think it's sexy, and kind of sweet. I wrote it on Wednesday, it took 10.5 hours.
There are also lots more skill checks and decision points than there have been in previous episodes.
I need to finish editing the Max date (which I'm partway through doing), and edit the Max sex scene (which I'm hoping to start on by Wed or Thurs this week). Fortunately I think this is going to be pretty straightforward because the changes I made on Fri 5th included big characterisation improvements for Max and the heroine, and it's making their (now optional) chemistry much hotter and easier to write.
Okay, it's been a long day and my brain is mush once more. I will rest it tonight so it is fresh for more work tomorrow. ❤‍
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surprise, surprise.... more hard work, no dates

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8 hours ago

Hey guys! I worken't all 7 days since the last report, no days off. No peace for the wicked.

Okay, it's been a long day and my brain is mush once more. I will rest it tonight so it is fresh for more work tomorrow. ❤‍

There i sumarized the report for those who don't want to read that long crap.

 

[applesnacks1111]

Oh my God. All of this time just to edit the Malaysia mission. It was already fine. It was fine. He made content that players won't even see? He delayed advancing the main plot in Bangkok for this? I feel like he needs to psychologically evaluated.

Perfection is the enemy of progress. But he's been told that a thousand times. What a fucking idiot. Just write the thing - people write creative works all of the time. It's smut, not Shakespeare. Why does he take it so seriously, to his extreme detriment? What an idiot.

 

[Vengeance_11]

10 and a half hours to write the ending for one scene? He claims to have spent all day writing one scene?

Bro is just straight up lying at this point and I'm happy to see (an admittedly small number of) his patrons start calling him out on this.

 

[Senor Smut]

This just got me banned from Crush's Discord:


That's just it. When you tell the people week after week, month after month (and at this point year after year) that you're working 14 hour days with no time off, people will, or at least should, demand to see receipts. It's not unjust or unreasonable for the people who are paying his freight to want to see the fruits of the labor they've funded.

This isn't War and Peace. It isn't A la recherche du temps perdu or Joyce's Ulysses. It's a porn game, and all it will ever be is a porn game. It's not transcendent literature or a masterpiece work of art for ages. It's smut. So piss or get off the pot.

To be clear, I'm not saying that Crush isn't working as hard as he says he is. At this point the question I'm asking is, "Why?" To what end is all this work being done? Because whether you're an ardent supporter or a harsh critic, you have to admit that the receipts are not there. Whatever work Crush is doing, it's not working. It's always been obvious that Crush has critical problems with workflow optimization, organization, planning, and execution. He's got good ideas, but (for whatever reason you choose to accept) those ideas are not transmitted to the public in playable form.

I want to see this game completed. It's a good game with interesting ideas. But after two years of nothing (except a way for players to avoid all the work we've been hearing he's been doing) and who knows how long since anything's actually advanced the plot, I can't believe that it ever will be. This project's been going for eight years, man. Eight years. And at no point has it progressed past the prologue, and the creator is still working on the intro. After eight years, there aren't words to express how unacceptable that is for an HTML porn game.

Crush, brother, I root for you and I want you to succeed and be happy, but to quote a complete son of a bitch, you have sat here too long for any good you have been doing. This project is dead. It's time to give it a decent burial.

 

[shadow_panther]

to quote a complete son of a bitch, you have sat here too long for any good you have been doing.

Crush: "Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!" [banhammer]

 

[Senor Smut]

Crush: "Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!" [banhammer]

When you put it like that, I should have seen it coming!

 

[PickerLewd]

Well, at least you have good taste when it comes to scarves .

 

[MikasaTanikawa]

Wow. All I ever tried to do was make a game you guys would enjoy. Anyway, sorry for interrupting the circle jerk.

Would enjoy game, but there is none. Only circle of prologue remaking.

 

[leg28]

I'm doing a Renpy fan-remake of FA and currently the progress is up to the second training with Bonath and analysis of the videos after their break-in at the club. It's just Before the girls goes out to Zoe's party.

NOTE: My version is based on a "reluctant Kate". A professional Kate with professional backing that will help her and protect her as much as they can. So if your Kate is an immediate exhibitionist or very sexual this is not the version for you.

But! I'm not sure if it is interesting enough to publish however. And I do not want to interfere with Crushs main story and his game.

I have 1 tester, but I would like 1 or so more. Based on their verdict I might release it, keep it to the ones asking for it, or destroying it for all eternity. I don't know yet.

If it is a stupid idea, please let me know. If it "might" be a good idea, tell me that as well.
I'm happy for all feedback.

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it is great idea and of course we are interested whichever direction you take - "reluctant kate" is better than "many options kate which you'll never play" by crush. as you guess majority probably would like more relaxed kate. even more, reluctant one that became relaxed either by story or player's choices (corruption path). i don't know your renpy skills, can you do complex choices game, but anything you do is more than welccome.

 

[leg28]

Wow. All I ever tried to do was make a game you guys would enjoy. Anyway, sorry for interrupting the circle jerk.

you don't understand (or you pretending not to understand) that we all here love your game. otherwise we wouldn't be here for years. you finally appeared here acting like offended diva because people here are not your cheerleaders like on heavily censored (north korea style) discord. but basically your players don't care for anything but one question for you that you won't answer anywhere: WHEN WILL BE NEXT UPDATE????

 

[Senor Smut]

you don't understand (or you pretending not to understand) that we all here love your game. otherwise we wouldn't be here for years. you finally appeared here acting like offended diva because people here are not your cheerleaders like on heavily censored (north korea style) discord. but basically your players don't care for anything but one question for you that you won't answer anywhere: WHEN WILL BE NEXT UPDATE????

I'd like to point out that Crush's Discord is actually pretty lax with what they let people say. Yeah I just got banned, but given the shit I said there in the past, I'd have banned my ass literally years ago.