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I decided to "benefit" one of those threads, I not sure it will be appropriately appreciated, but I let my poetic soul soar...
 

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Wasn't trying to be ironic at all. It seems wrong to fap while others are fleeing for their lives. Dunno. It certainly took my libido away.

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I wanted to laugh at your Raid shadow legends joke, but it's the first time I'm using the android version of f95 and it seems I'm only allowed to give "likes", not laughs/hearts/facepalms or other reactions... :eek: This ties in to the reason I stopped posting actually - the charger for the laptop I used this website on and played porn games on broke this Tuesday, so now I'm on a short porn break imposed less by ww3 and more by my dog's ass having pushed the laptop on the floor on top of the charger cable because of excitement - I start seeing why you like cats more now... :LOL:

I wouldn't be much of a centrist if I wouldn't show a little flexibility in playing to the crows. Centrists who lose their adaptability should get in the business of supplying revolutionaries with rope. :WeSmart:Wouldn't dare to impose imperialism on this topic! And it's she/her, by the way.
Oh hell, I usually am ultra-careful with using they/them pronouns when uncertain, so I sincerely apologise for that Jaike! For some reason I was dumb and thought I remembered you either using or being referred to with male pronouns, but that's obviously not the case so apologies once again!

Also, I think you meant "playing to the crowds", not crows, but honestly crows are among the smartest animals out there so I think it's fine if you call us leftie radicals that! Just please never do eagles or black pigeons - they've been too tainted with symbolism from 'Murica and certain other unsavoury ideologies... :LOL:

Yeah, they could, but nah - I already "benefited" some threads to the point of parody. This site was a specific kind of growing up story for me. It made me 7% more cynical...or rather a notch less enthusiastic than I was. I thought the world was made up of butterflies, rainbows and incredibly sexy femdom. It turned out the butterflies were moths, the rainbows were chemical spills and femdom was actually maledom....so

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... oh and spaceships turned out to be intercontinental ballistic missiles...
Did you know moths are some of the purest animals out there (for insects at least - they never kill, parasitise or eat any other animals) , some of whom are even born without a mouth and basically only get born, reproduce and die without ever eating? They also do some amazing mid-flight calculations to keep their direction at the same angle in relation to the moon while they migrate, and this is why light bulbs and street lights often disorient them, as they literally think the bulb is the moon and they try desperately to adjust their flight path to retain the same angle towards it! (nobody said they're the smartest animals... :LOL: - only that they're beautiful harmless creatures who get a bad rep) Anyway, I guess this curiosity stream-infused post should tell you, in its weird convoluted way (which now also reminds you of YouTube sponsorships), that moths ain't that bad, so maybe f95 isn't either? ;)

All right - I'm done typing typing on this blasphemous android version. I should get the new charger I ordered either this Saturday or on Monday, but until then I'm afraid I'm stuck doing "No Femdom March"... :cautious:
 
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I wanted to laugh at your Raid shadow legends joke, but it's the first time I'm using the android version of f95 and it seems I'm only allowed to give "likes", not laughs/hearts/facepalms or other reactions... :eek: This ties in to the reason I stopped posting actually - the charger for the laptop I used this website on and played porn games on broke this Tuesday, so now I'm on a short porn break imposed less by ww3 and more by my dog's ass having pushed the laptop on the floor on top of the charger cable because of excitement - I start seeing why you like cats more now... :LOL:



Oh hell, I usually am ultra-careful with using they/them pronouns when uncertain, so I sincerely apologise for that Jaike! For some reason I was dumb and thought I remembered you either using or being referred to with male pronouns, but that's obviously not the case so apologies once again!

Also, I think you meant "playing to the crowds", not crows, but honestly crows are among the smartest animals out there so I think it's fine if you call us leftie radicals that! Just please never do eagles or black pigeons - they've been too tainted with symbolism from 'Murica and certain other unsavoury ideologies... :LOL:



Did you know moths are some of the purest animals out there (for insects at least - they never kill, parasitise or eat any other animals) , some of whom are even born without a mouth and basically only get born, reproduce and die without ever eating? They also do some amazing mid-flight calculations to keep their direction at the same angle in relation to the moon while they migrate, and this is why light bulbs and street lights often disorient them, as they literally think the bulb is the moon and they try desperately to adjust their flight path to retain the same angle towards it! (nobody said they're the smartest animals... :LOL: - only that they're beautiful harmless creatures who get a bad rep) Anyway, I guess this curiosity stream-infused post should tell you, in its weird convoluted way (which now also reminds you of YouTube sponsorships), that moths ain't that bad, so maybe f95 isn't either? ;)

All right - I'm done typing typing on this blasphemous android version. I should get the new charger I ordered either this Saturday or on Monday, but until then I'm afraid I'm stuck doing "No Femdom March"... :cautious:
Moths are monsters, I don't care what you say! :whistle: I have severe mottephobia.
 
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Moths are monsters, I don't care what you say! :whistle: I have severe mottephobia.
Only mottephobia, but not lepidopterophobia? (so butterflies are fine?) :unsure: Never heard of this one before, and it does seem a bit surprising from an outside perspective given how closely related moths and butterflies are, but duly noted. Sorry for giving you PTSD with this (and with the mention of YouTube sponsorships - I think Curiosity Stream, Raid Shadow Legends, Nord VPN and Magellan TV are amongst the most hated companies in the world by this point... :LOL:) , and farewell until tomorrow!
 
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Only mottephobia, but not lepidopterophobia? (so butterflies are fine?) :unsure: Never heard of this one before, and it does seem a bit surprising from an outside perspective given how closely related moths and butterflies are, but duly noted. Sorry for giving you PTSD with this (and with the mention of YouTube sponsorships - I think Curiosity Stream, Raid Shadow Legends, Nord VPN and Magellan TV are amongst the most hated companies in the world by this point... :LOL:) , and farewell until tomorrow!
Nah, I am not a snowflake at the same time, but thx for your concern! Sleep tight!
 

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Found this on Sunshaded's blog, I thought it was funny and pretty accurate:

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In my opinion only SOME of the things in the first and fourth column are not femdom. But even those contain some sexy femdom. Cunnilingus while kneeling is definitely femdom, and Monster Girls and Giantess content CAN be femdom. Also in the 3rd column, bullying can easily qualify, sheer intercourse under special circumstances maaaay qualify, esp if the sub is tied down at least, or really forced into it. The rest is totally accurate. My fav is obviously the last 3 rows.
 
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Columns 1, 2, and 3 are my wheelhouse, 5 and 6 can be sexy depending on the situation and in moderation

No thanks to 4 and 7
 

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Saying anything or engaging with porn seems a bit distasteful during times of war innit?
You are not alone. When Russia started this war I was also unable to enjoy h games or anything kinky. I was so worried sick about this that I even stayed home from the anime convention in my town due to just not having the energy.
 
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Found this on Sunshaded's blog, I thought it was funny and pretty accurate:

In my opinion only SOME of the things in the first and fourth column are not femdom. But even those contain some sexy femdom. Cunnilingus while kneeling is definitely femdom, and Monster Girls and Giantess content CAN be femdom. Also in the 3rd column, bullying can easily qualify, sheer intercourse under special circumstances maaaay qualify, esp if the sub is tied down at least, or really forced into it. The rest is totally accurate. My fav is obviously the last 3 rows.
There's some accuracy in it but some rows are completely INNACURATE and show the author's bias pretty heavily.

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And on a more lighthearted and completely personal note, in the last column, "... at some point it started to just become abuse to me. This isn't femdom." oh boy do I have a different take on that lmao
 
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There's some accuracy in it but some rows are completely INNACURATE and show the author's bias pretty heavily.

The fourth column is basically entirely incorrect and takes things from the wrong perspective. "pegging/futanari ... isn't femdom because it's not a 'woman' dominating you" is pretty much just straight up transphobia and should be completely ignored. "...giantess/monster girls isn't femdom because it's not a 'woman' dominating you" isn't a matter of seeing things as femdom or not, it's completely unrelated. It's a matter of liking those 'supernatural' fetishes or not. And if you do, a female monster dominating you is 100% femdom, it's impossible not to be.

"Cuckold isn't femdom, because a man is in a 'superior' position to you, so it's maledom". Way to completely ignore a woman's agency on m/f relationships, huh? I'll ignore the fact that most cuckold stories completely ignores the male part (as in not writing any background info, no personality, the guy is usually just a big dick with a body attached to it), and assume that stories do put the same weight on everyone (which they don't), even then it's still the woman's choice. It depends on the type of cuckolding as well, some are deliberate and more focused on humilating the cuck rather than actually having a romantic affair, some are actual affairs that are naturally occurying and (particularly for me) can be very emotionally taxing. One is definitely 'way more femdom' than the other, but throwing them all in the same category is super wrong.

Forced fem is LITERALLY femdom because it's not about a man being sissy/gay/bi. It's about a dominant woman manipulating a guy into doing humiliating things, and it can ONLY be humiliating if the guy didn't seriously think about being sissy/gay/bi beforehand (maybe only in fantasy, but having someone push the buttons is domination nonetheless). So that's the very essence of femdom.

The conclusion to that part "It's normal to have preferences, but remember that not everyone agrees" assumes that all of those are relative, when in fact - as I explained - only a couple of them are, and even the 2 that are relative, they're still simplified to the least femdom-y of interpretations.

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And on a more lighthearted and completely personal note, in the last column, "... at some point it started to just become abuse to me. This isn't femdom." oh boy do I have a different take on that lmao
Well, I don't want to start a debate, but I can't leave this without an answer, because I disagree with many contentions you raised here.

I would advise you to use the spoiler functionality for the main text-body, leaving only a short visible header introducing the issue when engaging in long texts, in order to keep the thread tidy, and also to respect those who may not want to see, or engage in exchanges of this sort. Thanks in advance!

Important: You may want to check out the the thread's OP where I defined how I understand femdom and that my definition is to be adhered on this thread. As it happens, my definitions pretty much fits with Sunshaded's interpretation, with only minor differences.

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I'd say I agree with most things in that panel, and I pretty much like all of the categories (with my personal favourites being games that start at column 1 or 2 tier and finish at column 6) except column 3, which really doesn't do it for me if there isn't even a findom element to it or some light domination in the sex MC is being bullyed into, (I'd take the stance that column 3 is just vanilla with at best a 10% femdom coating on top, which itself comes in the form of non-consent and bullying which, while I admit are dominant acts, are non-erotic ones and depending on implementation I'd judge 99% of column 3 games as vanilla that I find completely uninteresting) and a few elements of columns 1 and 4.

Won't get into definitional debates so as not to reignite old flames that may bring about the nuking of this thread before ww3, (ok, that was my oringinal intention, but, in retrospect... uhmmm :unsure:, sorry for how this came out Aseratrix! :LOL:) but I'd say the panel is mostly accurate and Sunshaded received a little bit of unwarranted criticism which I will address below:

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And on a more lighthearted and completely personal note, in the last column, "... at some point it started to just become abuse to me. This isn't femdom." oh boy do I have a different take on that lmao
Me too - oh boy do I love me some unwholesome non-con
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At least from time to time - I also love gentle uplifting loving femdom, but column 7 stuff is awesome too in its own way!

Anyway, I just think you've been pretty uncharitable to sunshaded in this post (especially with the transphobia comment) and I have some strong disagreements with you on futanari, forced feminization and cuckolding, but I think I voiced my disagreements respectfully and I hope we can either have a fruitful discussion or agree to disagree! :) All the best to you!
 
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I can donate blood, the money part is a thing I struggle with for some years now.
Sorry to hear that. But what I mean is that small practical ways of helping out are better than privately feeling bad and denying yourself a bit of fun. I also donate blood btw, even went yesterday.

Oh hell, I usually am ultra-careful with using they/them pronouns when uncertain, so I sincerely apologise for that Jaike! For some reason I was dumb and thought I remembered you either using or being referred to with male pronouns, but that's obviously not the case so apologies once again!

Also, I think you meant "playing to the crowds", not crows, but honestly crows are among the smartest animals out there so I think it's fine if you call us leftie radicals that! Just please never do eagles or black pigeons - they've been too tainted with symbolism from 'Murica and certain other unsavoury ideologies... :LOL:
No hard feelings, I'm pretty used to people reading "Jaike" as a weird creative spelling of "Jake".

Edited that. Yes, I donated blood yesterday and had a bandage on my middle finger so my typing wasn't really good. Wouldn't want to compare you to crows either; the Black Crow Party in Alfred Jodocus Kwak are the in-universe analogy of the NSDAP so I guess crows also kinda tainted. Unfortunately female birds are usually less beautiful than male birds so they don't capture the image of the elegant domme well.

The fourth column is basically entirely incorrect and takes things from the wrong perspective. "pegging/futanari ... isn't femdom because it's not a 'woman' dominating you" is pretty much just straight up transphobia and should be completely ignored. "...giantess/monster girls isn't femdom because it's not a 'woman' dominating you" isn't a matter of seeing things as femdom or not, it's completely unrelated. It's a matter of liking those 'supernatural' fetishes or not. And if you do, a female monster dominating you is 100% femdom, it's impossible not to be.
I don't think much is gained by conflating futa and trans. Futa are fictional hermaphrodites so more like giantesses and monster girls, trans people are real. Anyhow I don't mind futanari but it's kinda a side issue to femdom.

Absolutely no idea why pegging is included in column 4, a domme pegging a male sub with a strap-on is straight and femdom. Agree on monster girls and giantesses being unrelated.
 

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Well, I don't want to start a debate, but I can't leave this without an answer, because I disagree with many contentions you raised here.

I would advise you to use the spoiler functionality for the main text-body, leaving only a short visible header introducing the issue when engaging in long texts, in order to keep the thread tidy, and also to respect those who may not want to see, or engage in exchanges of this sort. Thanks in advance!

Important: You may want to check out the the thread's OP where I defined how I understand femdom and that my definition is to be adhered on this thread. As it happens, my definitions pretty much fits with Sunshaded's interpretation, with only minor differences.

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Dammit - you beat me to it by 31 minutes! While some of our points overlap, I'll assure you that I didn't refresh the page to plagiarize your post! :LOL:

Also, richarddlopatin, sorry for the double critique really! I know how it feels to get overwhelmed with messages on this website, and I also see both me and aseratrix made a couple of similar points phrased differently, so it's fine if you decide to just answer once to both of us when it comes to those. Naturally, also feel free to take as much time as you want and have a great weekend! :)
 
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Well, I don't want to start a debate, but I can't leave this without an answer, because I disagree with many contentions you raised here.

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Ok, there are some things I feel like I need to say as well:
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I don't think much is gained by conflating futa and trans. Futa are fictional hermaphrodites so more like giantesses and monster girls, trans people are real. Anyhow I don't mind futanari but it's kinda a side issue to femdom.
I think the general vibes I got from that image is a problem the creator has with female appearance and a penis being in the same body, you know? That's where I'm coming from in all of my posts.
 

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If we would be talking domination by Futanari that identify fully as female (or by actual transwomen), then yes I would agree that not labelling that "femdom" would be a denial of their gender identity and would constitute a form of transphobia, but that's extremely rare in games so I'm quite sure Sunshaded only discounted it on the very real grounds that futanari usually are not women, do not identify as women and most often actually only use their male parts to engage in sexually dominant acts! (which I'd say makes them a vehicle for inserting maledom fetishes into an otherwise femdom narrative)

(I think it's largely got to do with the fact that pre-op transwomen already have a pecker...)
Since I agree with the rest of your post, I think being a slave for a lesbian couple is like a wet dream of many subs in femdom. What's not to like in being dommed not by 1 but 2 sexy females?

Onto the part with which I somewhat disagree:

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I'd say I agree with most things in that panel, and I pretty much like all of the categories (with my personal favourites being games that start at column 1 or 2 tier and finish at column 6) except column 3, which really doesn't do it for me if there isn't even a findom element to it or some light domination in the sex MC is being bullyed into, (I'd take the stance that column 3 is just vanilla with at best a 10% femdom coating on top, which itself comes in the form of non-consent and bullying which, while I admit are dominant acts, are non-erotic ones and depending on implementation I'd judge 99% of column 3 games as vanilla that I find completely uninteresting) and a few elements of columns 1 and 4.

Won't get into definitional debates so as not to reignite old flames that may bring about the nuking of this thread before ww3, (ok, that was my oringinal intention, but, in retrospect... uhmmm :unsure:, sorry for how this came out Aseratrix! :LOL:) but I'd say the panel is mostly accurate and Sunshaded received a little bit of unwarranted criticism which I will address below:

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Me too - oh boy do I love me some unwholesome non-con
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At least from time to time - I also love gentle uplifting loving femdom, but column 7 stuff is awesome too in its own way!

Anyway, I just think you've been pretty uncharitable to sunshaded in this post (especially with the transphobia comment) and I have some strong disagreements with you on futanari, forced feminization and cuckolding, but I think I voiced my disagreements respectfully and I hope we can either have a fruitful discussion or agree to disagree! :) All the best to you!
Oh, you wanna talk about Mistresses of the Forest? Oh boy... Piroa is awesome as hell but... Eshka? I'll never understand why Eshka didn't get an ending. She's just pure evil and I love it. I played the entire game waiting for an epilogue with her and I was so disappointed :(

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