I've tried not to dive into it but even when I try to write a post to finish it off, after engaging in the discussion in a few replies before, and making sure I don't mention and come back to arguing in my final post, you come back to it. And I once again feel the need to say things. So here we go... again:I could have certainly made my response more general, and leave you personally out.
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It's funny that you mention this, since moths are actually my least favorite insect. I just feel irrationally bothered (threatened!?) by the way that moths beat their wings. But on the monster girl side of things, I don't dislike moth girls or bee girls. Now that I think about it, probably I'm not a fan of being directly dominated by chitin insect appendages; if they look similar to normal girls but have wings or an abdomen attached to them, they're cool.How dare you guys? I thought you were true femdom fans, but little did I know that both of you secretly look down on the only currently-existing taxonomic class of animals on Earth in which females are more often than not the larger and stronger sex, and which even organize bordering-on-gynarchic societies ruled by Queens that dominate entire nations with their pheromones! Sheesh... everybody knows you're not a real femdom fan if you don't wanna get oviposited by an anthropomorphised Bee Queen! Ok, you're definitely better at parodying online definition-mongers like me, Sunshaded! (or at least at doing so with more subtlety haha)
The writer of Monster Girl Quest is really talented to make all these weird monster girl concepts so memorable, that's for sure. And since the art is hit and miss for me, I often wish they'd tried to unify the art style more, but it's also true that having all these different artists made it for some very distinct and equally memorable designs to accompany their personalities.More seriously, on the topic of insectoid monster-girls, while I tend to dislike most of them (especially because I think human and insect features very rarely mesh well together, or at least in a way that's not uncanny), I remembered that one of my favourite enemies that could enslave you in the OG Monster Girl Quest was the Slug girl (the second enemy that Luka fights on his journey with Alice), who I thought looked and spoke like a very elegant Victorian lady, and one ofYou must be registered to see the linksthat popped up on an image search seems to agree she had a dope aesthetic!
Yeah, if I did it right, everyone should recognize themselves in at least 1-2 of these columns. I see myself in columns 1 and 3's hard femdom fan reactions. I exaggerated the columns to all be "this isn't femdom!" but most people's reaction are even a lot more moderate than that (more like "this is barely femdom" or "this is bad femdom").Interestingly I immediately got your intention, I laughed out loud, because I immediately recognized my ass in some of the reactions in the columns.
A bit of a side topic so I'll put it in a spoiler to save space:I do still wonder who Yamahata Ryan was?
Indeed I also have the same relation to that phobia, fantasy characters do not bother me as much, even if some would be outright horrific in real lifeIt's funny that you mention this, since moths are actually my least favorite insect. I just feel irrationally bothered (threatened!?) by the way that moths beat their wings. But on the monster girl side of things, I don't dislike moth girls or bee girls. Now that I think about it, probably I'm not a fan of being directly dominated by chitin insect appendages; if they look similar to normal girls but have wings or an abdomen attached to them, they're cool.You must be registered to see the linksfrom AHOBAKA's monster girl anthology is a fantastic moth girl. And I appreciate bee girls even more, they may be in my top 5 for monster girls. Granblue Fantasy has a nice design for theirYou must be registered to see the linksenemy which sort of encapsulates my ideal for them.
Just a few weeks back, I actually read a manga chapter where a pair of lovers had a funny and weird discussion about what the sex life of an ant queen and the workers would be like if they were humanoids, complete with surreal visual aids. But I think it was just a one-shot on /r/manga and I can't find it anymore.
The writer of Monster Girl Quest is really talented to make all these weird monster girl concepts so memorable, that's for sure. And since the art is hit and miss for me, I often wish they'd tried to unify the art style more, but it's also true that having all these different artists made it for some very distinct and equally memorable designs to accompany their personalities.
Yeah, if I did it right, everyone should recognize themselves in at least 1-2 of these columns. I see myself in columns 1 and 3's hard femdom fan reactions. I exaggerated the columns to all be "this isn't femdom!" but most people's reaction are even a lot more moderate than that (more like "this is barely femdom" or "this is bad femdom").
A bit of a side topic so I'll put it in a spoiler to save space:
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Question about the last two columns, "life destruction", what is the relation of such to female domination specifically? I've been playing some visual novels recently: Saya no Uta, Higurashi, and Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi. These were recommended to me, considered classics in the genre; coincidentally these visual novels all featured "yandere" characters, or pathologically possessive female characters, who in this case, end up killing people. The visual novels all feature the domination of men ad nihlio, as an army dominates the other through force, but I wouldn't call the games I've mentioned "femdom" on the virtue of the girls killing people they have a sexual relationship with. The yandere derive no pleasure from the act of killing, and their violence is presented as a duty, an honor killing with all its recondite implications. Despite their cool, detached mannerisms, the women committing the murder are remorseful and empathetic for the dying and dead, like they were in a passion play. So in what context does "life destruction" count as female domination, because as it stands, marrying the two together seems to be a contradiction in terms.Found this on Sunshaded's blog, I thought it was funny and pretty accurate:
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In my opinion only SOME of the things in the first and fourth column are not femdom. But even those contain some sexy femdom. Cunnilingus while kneeling is definitely femdom, and Monster Girls and Giantess content CAN be femdom. Also in the 3rd column, bullying can easily qualify, sheer intercourse under special circumstances maaaay qualify, esp if the sub is tied down at least, or really forced into it. The rest is totally accurate. My fav is obviously the last 3 rows.
I encountered this terminology the first time in this image as well. So, I am not entirely sure what it refers to exactly. As I understood it while looking at it, and parsing through the femdom I know in my head, I think it may refer to instances of extreme femdom where: 1. the sub is enslaved 24/7 [basically ending his life as he knew it] 2. the sub is deformed, maimed, or severely indebted, etc to the point of emotional, mental and physical ruin. Now a 3rd option may be torture which ends in the sub's demise too, I guess.Hi everyone. Posting here because I have a relevant question to ask.
Question about the last two columns, "life destruction", what is the relation of such to female domination specifically? I've been playing some visual novels recently: Saya no Uta, Higurashi, and Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi. These were recommended to me, considered classics in the genre; coincidentally these visual novels all featured "yandere" characters, or pathologically possessive female characters, who in this case, end up killing people. The visual novels all feature the domination of men ad nihlio, as an army dominates the other through force, but I wouldn't call the games I've mentioned "femdom" on the virtue of the girls killing people they have a sexual relationship with. The yandere derive no pleasure from the act of killing, and their violence is presented as a duty, an honor killing with all its recondite implications. Despite their cool, detached mannerisms, the women committing the murder are remorseful and empathetic for the dying and dead, like they were in a passion play. So in what context does "life destruction" count as female domination, because as it stands, marrying the two together seems to be a contradiction in terms.
I'll make sure to put in the list during this week. Thanks for the addition!So, I haven't answered any posts today because I focused on finishing this to finally publish an entry. Rise of the White Flower is a porn game that I would say has an 85/90% story to 15/10% porn ratio, the latter of which is mostly lesbian, but also mostly dedicated to vanilla lesbian sex and cunnilingus scenes. It is also an unfinished visual novel that, in the first 7 chapters, stretches to around 500k words, which is about the size of a 1500 pages book. (there are many choices that make the dialogue quite different though, as well as porn scenes with LIs you won't be interested in etc, so you'll probably read less than half that in one playthrough, but that's still a lot...)
It is also a very well written game set in a fantasy world with lots of unique lore ideas, its own magic system, hystory, religions and mythology (clearly inspired by classical fantasy and Greco-Roman stuff, but there's also some Sumerian/Mesopotamian inspiration and plenty of original ideas) and the beautiful story of Catherine Belrose, a formerly poor girl from the countryside that came to Batria, the capital of the Empire of Noramadia, to study magic against the wishes of her family, and who winds up becoming a great sorceress and a bit of a national hero by the point I got to. (who also gets to have her own slave and multiple female lovers if she wants to ) It's a tale of rags to riches of a witty determined sorceress that overcomes many odds and many foes during her rise, (part of the reason I love it) but what I'm trying to get at is that this game is long, and you have to also enjoy the story and setting if you are to like it, because the porn is not very prevalent.
You do not have to worry about maledom or straight vanilla sex, as any sexual scene or love interest is optional and can be avoided. As for what we care about, there's several female love interests for Catherine (some more submissive, some more dominant) and a lot of fetishes that get explored, but bear in mind that most of the erotic scenes are tame vanilla yuri and cunnilingus, and some of the lezdom fetishes I will list are only with one character or only feature in one or 2 scenes. Oh, and there's also plenty of optional futa content for those that like that. Without further ado, here's the entry:
Rise of the White Flower
NARRATIVE
RICH
OTHER PATHS
YES (Vanilla, Maledom)
DOMINATION LEVEL
SOFT
FEMDOM FOCUS
DEDICATED
FETISH VARIETY
[WIDE]
FETISH EXAMPLES
Cunnilingus, pet play (one lezdom scene with leash and collaring), pegging, light bondage, tentacle bondage, spanking, humiliation, verbal humiliation, sex toys (such as butt plugs, gags, dildos), magic (spectral arms, conjured tentacles that obey the caster, spells used in sex), exhibitionism
ORIENTATION
LESBIAN [LEZDOM, VANILLA YURI] - MC can be both dominant and submissive
FUTA [optional, but there is futa content with at least 4 characters]
PROTAGONIST
FEMALE
FUTA [only for a few erotic scenes MC can choose to drink a potion that allows her to grow a cock]
GENRE
Choice-driven visual novel
ART STYLE
2D, HAND DRAWN ART
GAME ENGINE
UNITY
STATUS
IN DEV
DEV
NecroBunnyStudios
OBSERVATIONS
There might be one mandatory futa scene early on, but all the rest of them are avoidable/optional.
IMPORTANT
Long game with a rich narrative set in its own unique fantasy universe. There is no combat system at all - only dialogue, narration, choices, multiple love interests, a money system and quests MC can go on. (you can also change the outfits of MC and any of her companions as an extra feature)
That's it! On an unrelated side-note, I've also played the latest release of Slave High by taco7 (I'm not sure it's public yet as I got the patreon release) which adds day 4 and some voice acting for Mei and Akame, and I must say that while I like some of the new content, Mei's voice actress sounds so much likeYou must be registered to see the linksthat I think I liked her more without voice acting! Do any of you guys who also play that game dislike that her voice sounds kinda childish and without any noticable Asian accent?
Anyway, I'm signing off for today - for any lezdom and fatasy lovers do give Rise of the White Flower a try, as I think many of you will come to like it! The devs are also a really nice couple who take feedback, answer many posts on the game's thread and are obviously passionate about and dedicated to the project, so that's another plus for it!
I think usually it's a scenario where a woman for her (sexual) pleasure publicly humiliate the sub so he loses his job, social standing, prospects for the future, family, money, etc. Just yesterday I've seen a pov vid with a girl asking/coercing "you" to allow to use "you" to fulfill her fantasy and destroy "your" life by making photos of your humiliating activities public so "you" won't be able to continue "your" cosy life and end up jobless and publicly shamed. Other scenario may include findom (she takes all sub's money and when he's broken she throws him away), homewrecking (makes sub leave his family for her pleasure and then leaves him or informs his wife about his activities) and so on. Basically doing various things out of some sadistic pleasure so the sub will end up poor, without friends, family, job, maybe even home. I suppose you may connect it in some way to some hypno vids (making sub addicted to the dom or part of her body or giving her money until he's sucked dry and can't normally exist) or pov vids with dommes saying how much they want to see "you" kill yourself or that "you" should commit suicide, cause of how big waste of space/loser/whatever you are.Hi everyone. Posting here because I have a relevant question to ask.
Question about the last two columns, "life destruction", what is the relation of such to female domination specifically? I've been playing some visual novels recently: Saya no Uta, Higurashi, and Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi. These were recommended to me, considered classics in the genre; coincidentally these visual novels all featured "yandere" characters, or pathologically possessive female characters, who in this case, end up killing people. The visual novels all feature the domination of men ad nihlio, as an army dominates the other through force, but I wouldn't call the games I've mentioned "femdom" on the virtue of the girls killing people they have a sexual relationship with. The yandere derive no pleasure from the act of killing, and their violence is presented as a duty, an honor killing with all its recondite implications. Despite their cool, detached mannerisms, the women committing the murder are remorseful and empathetic for the dying and dead, like they were in a passion play. So in what context does "life destruction" count as female domination, because as it stands, marrying the two together seems to be a contradiction in terms.
I'm gonna try Dominant Witches now, I always skip one update to have more content at once. Eyes Never Lie also got updated, so I'm gonna try this one later. BTW I've also checked Price of Desire since it was tagged with femdom, but it's not a femdom game. Plus the translation (dev is Spanish) is pretty bad.Both Moving Down and Dominant Witches just got updated 3 hours ago, so it's an overall good start of the week for femdom!
Is it or is it not a femdom game? (I'm asking again just to make sure it wasn't a typo) The description and tags did not really give me much faith in Price of Desire having any femdom content (except "reverse rape", which I'm not too thrilled about), at least not in this first version...BTW I've also checked Price of Desire since it was tagged with femdom, but it's a femdom game. Plus the translation (dev is Spanish) is pretty bad.
Definitely will check out Moving Down, so far that game is rapidly moving up to my main favs.Both Moving Down and Dominant Witches just got updated 3 hours ago, so it's an overall good start of the week for femdom!
Lol, I make too many typos lately; edited the previous post. It's not really a femdom game.Is it or is it not a femdom game? (I'm asking again just to make sure it wasn't a typo) The description and tags did not really give me much faith in Price of Desire having any femdom content (except "reverse rape", which I'm not too thrilled about), at least not in this first version...
Could have some good content - I stumbled upon this sometime last year and remember liking the synopsis and the fact that it's set in the Victorian era, but decided against trying it because most tags suggested it leans towards maledom harem game. If you try it out and find femdom or lezdom content feel free to come back and make an entry for the list or tell us how it went!https://f95zone.to/threads/divimera-r5-1-redikal.81300/
Not sure if anyone tried but it could lead to something interesting.
I played it in the past, I barely remember anything but basically every character has their focus and the "princess" is supossed to be femdom but there is no scene with her when I played and the relationship was mostly obeying random orders and she would soften up a bit.Could have some good content - I stumbled upon this sometime last year and remember liking the synopsis and the fact that it's set in the Victorian era, but decided against trying it because most tags suggested it leans towards maledom harem game. If you try it out and find femdom or lezdom content feel free to come back and make an entry for the list or tell us how it went!
Surprised that Moving Down was updated. I think the Dev lives in Ukraine, hope he's doing okBoth Moving Down and Dominant Witches just got updated 3 hours ago, so it's an overall good start of the week for femdom!
I only know that they made the game in Russian originally from the dev notes, so I supposed that most likely they're a Russian dev, but to be fair there are many millions of native Russian speakers in countries like Ukraine or Kazakhstan as well... Whatever the case, I hope they're ok too, and I guess the fact that they released an update is a good sign! (I don't think anyone would work on a porn game anymore if someone close to them died or was severely injured) Where did you hear/see that they might live in Ukraine if you don't mind me asking?Surprised that Moving Down was updated. I think the Dev lives in Ukraine, hope he's doing ok