konabwo

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Saying that the dev shouldn't implement game features you don't like without giving you the ability to disable them begs the question of whether everyone agrees with you.
u seemed to be making an excuse on devs behalf :
" most developers would rather write their story than write cheats. Girl Life had tons of writers, some of whom came on board specifically to write cheats. "
i said if that was true and he was incapable to do so (for whatever reason : other priorities, lack of assistance, etc) - such things could have been avoided leaving a game as a 'classic' quest-chain sanbox

thing is it is not only me. i avoided to say that most ppl dont like repetitive stat grind and 15clicks to shave-shower-makeup-pee-poo-makehair-tampon-pills. so there are only 2 inevitable scenarios - dev will ease that burden as much as possible or the game will be somewhere on the bottom (well, the latter doesnot exclude existance of fans and supporters ofc. the question will be about numbers)

and i think that is why dev have already implemented quite significant measures. i just comment on things i felt lacking but find comfy to have and approaches i saw elsewhere.
 
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so there are only 2 inevitable scenarios - dev will ease that burden as much as possible or the game will be somewhere on the bottom (well, the latter doesnot exclude existance of fans and supporters ofc. the question will be about numbers)
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u seemed to be making an excuse on devs behalf :
" most developers would rather write their story than write cheats. Girl Life had tons of writers, some of whom came on board specifically to write cheats. "
i said if that was true and he was incapable to do so (for whatever reason : other priorities, lack of assistance, etc) - such things could have been avoided leaving a game as a 'classic' quest-chain sanbox
I was explaining how creators work (I am a writer myself). Housekeeping stuff keeps us from our passion, which is telling the story. I don't happen to agree with the whole shave-shit-shower-shine approach, which is why I know how to disable most of it. However, it is the standard in the successful versions of these types of games, so I can understand why Mr Saturn would want to follow the standard. The quest-chain sandbox games like Into Mens' Land and Delirium did not prosper (not necessarily because of the SSSS effect, but why take chances?).

thing is it is not only me. i avoided to say that most ppl dont like repetitive stat grind and 15clicks to shave-shower-makeup-pee-poo-makehair-tampon-pills. so there are only 2 inevitable scenarios - dev will ease that burden as much as possible or the game will be somewhere on the bottom (well, the latter doesnot exclude existance of fans and supporters ofc. the question will be about numbers)

and i think that is why dev have already implemented quite significant measures. i just comment on things i felt lacking but find comfy to have and approaches i saw elsewhere.
The approaches taken elsewhere consumed time and effort on someone's part. The most extensive example of cheats I have seen is Girl Life, but you and I both know that this game isn't nearly as far along as GL, and GL certainly didn't have the features you desire when it was at the stage of development of this game.

And, in any case, you can easily create the cheats you desire.
 

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The developer announced in Discord that cheats will be added in the next update:
"Instant cure of syphilis", "Remove sperm from face", "No need to shave", "No need to take a shower"
 
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how to disable most of it. --if it has variables you know for sure or numbers you can compare and hence reverse-figure variable names that probably will be easy. but will not it be burdensome? as we are not talking about things like cash which u can cheat once and avoid that issue for eternity. but to mantain several of stats ... ingame daily or even hourly / per action taken ? (unless there is some way to copypast something in bulk in qsp console which i almost never used as relied on saveeditors etc)
and statuses might be harder to find unless it is something you can trace or figure out like whore_rep (99) which might be not the case as they can be named weirdly or you see no stats to compare. and they can be linked to other things so it will just prevent some quest chain where you need for example good rep score or no police records.


However, it is the standard in the successful versions of these types of games. --im not sure what was implied by 'these types'. and i never heard of those 2 examples. my point was that:

generally sandboxes fell within 2categories
```datesims/trainers/managers (basically repeat smth to get points to get action) - irrelevant within my context (without context, some sbxes tend to incorporate certain elements ofc).
```quest-chain based (mostly time&location-management ; milfy city 3dcg, summertimsaga 2dcg, SoaB rp)
(even GL, which just managed to gather more content is that way. most locations there are undeveloped with some minor rng-hookups. only quest chains are worthy of attention. nobody can or will pull off 'true-sandbox' game as it will require tons of people-hour)

that was about me saying that classic sandboxes (without any micromanagement) work just fine and that most of popular sandboxes are such. (so im not sure if there was/is a need to follow other sub/types of games and-or certain standards)

now, if we are to narrow it down we should check F/M sandboxes; and if to narrow down further - "femsims" sandboxes with micromanagement. and i dont know many of those. but those i know have means of mitigating that management side.
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that was me saying that cheating and routines/chores-skipping is the only way in such cases. which is hardly surprising as most ppl are not really into it and dev will come to that matters eventually and inevitably. (if he cares and wants bigger player base ofc. there cannot be points which YOU imply with regards to cheats i suggest (or to the fact of me suggesting)- that it is somehow on me to find a way to have a better qol / to cheat, or that dev should be excused because he is busy with writing. no time? then remove micromanagement at all. how is that not a solution if it works for most popular games? again, i never suggested that, im just responding to that defense or excuse you make on devs behalf... for unknown to me reason. that conversation could have been shorter if u just said 'yes, you are 100% right' :))
 
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Instead of arguing in vain here, write to the developer about your thoughts and suggestions in Discord.
im responding to ppl saying that i should not suggest anything because of their arguments which i dont find valid like AT ALL.
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i dont join game discord servers . will play bit later for a larger playtest review you could copypaste . for now i was just checking ui/qol mostly

last bugs things i detected were
-when sleeping naked in workers dorms and kicked out (payment ended) - cannot get cloth back. stuck. needed to use saves.
-i think i had similar situation when u get raped in showers in workers dorm.
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-actually getting a place to stay was kinda uncomfy for me. like ofc i had cash but i think in order to sleep to pass the time i just stayed in different places all the time . need options to rent for [x days of your choosing]
 
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hey guys, after 5 hours of trying i cant trigger the olesya storyline.. i do exact the same what the storyline guide tell me but it won`t start and i dont know why!
Even it say you can see the relationship level when you call her but im blind or it just dont appear for me...
Pls help me out guys! tyvm
 

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hey guys, after 5 hours of trying i cant trigger the olesya storyline.. i do exact the same what the storyline guide tell me but it won`t start and i dont know why!
Even it say you can see the relationship level when you call her but im blind or it just dont appear for me...
Pls help me out guys! tyvm
Relationship level is displayed in the conversation during the dialogue with her. Work in the barbershop with her a little, then call a few times, talk to her and her group of friends on the meadow, have a beer and that would be OK. It worked for me. Then new dialogue options appear.
 
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hey guys, after 5 hours of trying i cant trigger the olesya storyline.. i do exact the same what the storyline guide tell me but it won`t start and i dont know why!
Even it say you can see the relationship level when you call her but im blind or it just dont appear for me...
Pls help me out guys! tyvm
Relationship level is displayed in the conversation during the dialogue with her. Work in the barbershop with her a little, then call a few times, talk to her and her group of friends on the meadow, have a beer and that would be OK. It worked for me. Then new dialogue options appear.
Yes, the relationship level is displayed in a telephone conversation.
 

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hey guys, after 5 hours of trying i cant trigger the olesya storyline.. i do exact the same what the storyline guide tell me but it won`t start and i dont know why!
Even it say you can see the relationship level when you call her but im blind or it just dont appear for me...
Pls help me out guys! tyvm
If Ilya tells everyone that Violetta works as a prostitute, Olesya will not be friends with her.
 

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Relationship level is displayed in the conversation during the dialogue with her. Work in the barbershop with her a little, then call a few times, talk to her and her group of friends on the meadow, have a beer and that would be OK. It worked for me. Then new dialogue options appear.
Would you do me a screenshot where i can see exactly the relationship level?
An i had a fresh start made for this, violetta never was on prostitution but had her porn casting success like the guide say me, after the event with the beer i speaked to her like 100 times (telephone, group and on work i guess) but it never gave me the next "level" event....
 

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Would you do me a screenshot where i can see exactly the relationship level?
An i had a fresh start made for this, violetta never was on prostitution but had her porn casting success like the guide say me, after the event with the beer i speaked to her like 100 times (telephone, group and on work i guess) but it never gave me the next "level" event....
Has Olesya done her first porn shoot yet? You'll need to look up her set on the internet under Ukranian porn actresses if she has. If not then sorry, no idea
 
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