VN Ren'Py Completed Fetish Locator [Week 3 v3.4.8] [ViNovella]

[RC-1138 Boss]

It has been said several times already: extended version is always a few updates behind when compared to the standard version.
Also the patch on the OP should fix the patreon censorship.

 

[atrebor68]

For my route no new adeventures, probably I'm in a wrong path .
A very good game, anyway.

 

[gregers]

But can you really not have fictional story that involves blackmail really fuck me.

Blackmailing or coercing people into sexual acts can be seen as a form of rape, and rape porn is illegal in many jurisdictions, just like incest porn. Patreon can't be seen to support illegal projects or they'll have trouble with the payment processors (PayPal, Mastercard, etc.), who want to be able to work internationally without running afoul of local legislation.

We don't know why Patreon cracked down on the game just now. It's entirely possible someone tipped off their moderation team, but the game may also just be a victim of its own success: The more successful and high profile a project becomes, the more scrutiny it risks from the mods.

This is what patches are for.

 

[chaf]

That is correct.

so the only new thing is the ending with nora

 

[Cartageno]

so from what im understanding correct me if im wrong some sniveling little cry baby went crying to patreon over some content in the game dont what havent played it for a couple of updates and got it taken out

That's a speculation some have and it is entirely possible, however nobody knows and it could be any other number of reasons Patreon found out about it.

Any sexual act that is initiated where at least one party cannot legally consent (ie mentally impaired, under duress/forced, ...) is seen as rape. Even consensual non consent falls under this.
Blackmail falls squarely under the duress/forced category and they don't care if it's only a fantasy...

On the other hand it helps to remember that Patreon does this out of fear of being banned by CC processors like visa or mastercard who've been on a "all porn is exploitation/trafficking/other bad thing" spree under influence of, mostly, religious lobbyists. It's all about the money...

It is a question of depiction I'd say, many famous works of art (movies, books) feature incest, shota, loli, rape, blackmail, also non sexual despicable stuff like mass murder, enslavement, and so forth, and nobody objects. If this stuff is "glorified", i. .e portrayed in a positive light, it is where it becomes critical, not only (from Patreon's side) from a morally POV but also from a legal perspective, since they don't necessarily want their access blocked in some countries and thus their revenue diminished. Or lose commercial partners. And probably to be on the safe side they decided to take out that content altogether.

And, yes, it's all about the money, of course, but risking large shares of your income for some stance on - let's be honest to ourselves - artistic expressions of sometimes questionable content, who of us would do it?

did they edited the game? I didnt see the part where mc fucks that teacher or the part where he notices it is lidia behind everything? did they changed all that? I didnt even see the part where my mc has sex with Lyssa and there is almost the 3 some with stacy...

The last update was the extended version, it simply isn't that far into the story yet.

 

[Alfius]

Blackmailing or coercing people into sexual acts can be seen as a form of rape, and rape porn is illegal in many jurisdictions, just like incest porn. Patreon can't be seen to support illegal projects or they'll have trouble with the payment processors (PayPal, Mastercard, etc.), who want to be able to work internationally without running afoul of local legislation.

We don't know why Patreon cracked down on the game just now. It's entirely possible someone tipped off their moderation team, but the game may also just be a victim of its own success: The more successful and high profile a project becomes, the more scrutiny it risks from the mods.

This is what patches are for.

I'm sorry... Normally I'm err on the side of caution, but this is just a BS excuse.

When it comes to under 18/loli/pedo content, I can 100% see the point. There is not a way the optics on that looks good and a good chance that it (digital character stories containing it) might be illegal somewhere in the world.
Incest is stretching it, but sure... its kind of a strange fetish (That's mainstream on F95 LMAO)

Blackmail and Coercing... erm that is normal run of the mill story telling tools. Countless mainstream movies have that tool in their toolkit. Trying to spin this is running foul of the law is just laughable. There is nothing closely illegal in a story containing blackmail or coercion in any country or state around the world.

Your assertion that incest porn is illegal... I have never heard of such a thing. Please specify some details on this. Happy to be corrected.

In terms of rape porn... The only reason I could possible see that being illegal is maybe a fear that the actress was "forced" into the "role" in movie shoots happening in unknown locations with unknown actresses. Not really a problem for digital characters.
I'm still doubtful that it's actually illegal in any substantial jurisdiction (Especially the US with Freedom of speech). A number of mainstream movies contains brutal and explicit rape scenes.

Happy to be corrected, if you can point me to info where rape porn is illegal.
Minors is a whole different kettle of fish. 100% can see why Patreon bans it.

Incest and Rape I believe has nothing to do with legal issue and is purely an optics issue.

Sorry, not picking a fight here. I 100% agree with your conclusions. There was is snitch or the game was a victim of it's own success. I just think that the reason has got nothing to do with law and everything to do with optics.

From my point of view, I can kind of see the incest POV (Don't agree, but I can see it), but this one is just stupid and hypocritical. It's a mainstream tool used in countless stories and movies.

TLDR; Nothing to do with legality and everything to do with censorship.

 

[Cartageno]

I'm sorry... Normally I'm err on the side of caution, but this is just a BS excuse.

When it comes to under 18/loli/pedo content, I can 100% see the point. There is not a way the optics on that looks good and a good chance that it (digital character stories containing it) might be illegal somewhere in the world.
Incest is stretching it, but sure... its kind of a strange fetish (That's mainstream on F95 LMAO)

Blackmail and Coercing... erm that is normal run of the mill story telling tools. Countless mainstream movies have that tool in their toolkit. Trying to spin this is running foul of the law is just laughable. There is nothing closely illegal in a story containing blackmail or coercion in any country or state around the world.

Your assertion that incest porn is illegal... I have never heard of such a thing. Please specify some details on this. Happy to be corrected.

In terms of rape porn... The only reason I could possible see that being illegal is maybe a fear that the actress was "forced" into the "role" in movie shoots happening in unknown locations with unknown actresses. Not really a problem for digital characters.
I'm still doubtful that it's actually illegal in any substantial jurisdiction (Especially the US with Freedom of speech). A number of mainstream movies contains brutal and explicit rape scenes.

Happy to be corrected, if you can point me to info where rape porn is illegal.
Minors is a whole different kettle of fish. 100% can see why Patreon bans it.

Incest and Rape I believe has nothing to do with legal issue and is purely an optics issue.

Sorry, not picking a fight here. I 100% agree with your conclusions. There was is snitch or the game was a victim of it's own success. I just think that the reason has got nothing to do with law and everything to do with optics.

From my point of view, I can kind of see the incest POV (Don't agree, but I can see it), but this one is just stupid and hypocritical. It's a mainstream tool used in countless stories and movies.

TLDR; Nothing to do with legality and everything to do with censorship.

I am sorry, but you are wrong about your assumptions. Rape and incest are common story elements, but they should not be glorified in my country (Germany), so they shall not be enjoyed as such by the viewer. Rape porn is handled in the German criminal code article 184a and will get you up to three years in prison (and yes, if you look it up, that is the same article as for bestiality). Incest in porn isn't forbidden here (and in real life only between a man and a woman) but some legislations seem to even have problems with step-incest according to some disclaimers I saw on porn I watched. There is a reason you don't find them on mainstream porn sites in the western world and if you look for rape porn will mostly find Russian sites. However, unlike underage porn, it is forbidden to create, trade, or show them, but not illegal to watch them (which watching child pornography is).

And blackmailed sex is rape, that is pretty universal. German criminal code asks about whether the other side wants the sex (I am shortening here), not about how you force the sex to happen against their will. There might be a slightly lesser problem because excessive violence can be a problem in its own right - no matter whether rape or not - but there is a problem.

As in the US however it is perfectly fine to depict a nuke bombing Tokyo, killing tens of millions, but this discrepancy is a completely different matter. Well, outside of Japan, for historical reasons Japan handles this very differently.

But yeah, stuff like that differs a lot between countries, and as a company which is situated in the US and only has to adhere to US laws, Patreon certainly looks at what other major countries do lest they lose a good share of their turnover for some small niche project.

 

[gregers]

I'm sorry... Normally I'm err on the side of caution, but this is just a BS excuse.

No offense taken. As Cartageno points out above, legislation in these areas varies massively between jurisdictions (even just among states in the US).

Patreon is dependant on PayPal and Mastercard to process its payments, and Mastercard wants to continue to work everywhere from China to the UAE to Belarus to Connecticut. The payment companies enforce a high bar for acceptable content for fear of getting dinged for financing illegalities, and Patreon falls in line.

If you want to argue that Patreon also does content moderation out of concerns for the public perception of the platform, then sure, probably. But it's not just arbitrary censorship.

 

[Thedude715]

Blackmailing or coercing people into sexual acts can be seen as a form of rape, and rape porn is illegal in many jurisdictions, just like incest porn. Patreon can't be seen to support illegal projects or they'll have trouble with the payment processors (PayPal, Mastercard, etc.), who want to be able to work internationally without running afoul of local legislation.

We don't know why Patreon cracked down on the game just now. It's entirely possible someone tipped off their moderation team, but the game may also just be a victim of its own success: The more successful and high profile a project becomes, the more scrutiny it risks from the mods.

This is what patches are for.

Laws and rules are wierd on what you are allowed to make stories on and not huh, graphical violence/torture et cetera and murder cool cool whatever but incest dont you fucking dare.

Anyway thanks for clarifying mostly I am just triggerd about what happend to the game as this killed my interest in it untill a patch get sorted.

 

[Badboll]

I guess you didn't see the NTR-embossed cock cage hanging above the mantelpiece? Or would hanging under be more accurate?

You missed the point. 0-100 at once is the issue people had with it.

 

[shatkish28]

So i get to the disclaimer about transfering characters and visiting their discord and then it just crashes without a log or anything. On the Mac version if that helps.

 

[Trasher2018]

wtf? I can only load a save from June 6 and then it ends. (after the chair spinning with Amber-Rose)

Edit: Ok - I guess the last version I played was the 2.4.6 normal then.

I dont get that Extended stuff tbh.

What is the difference? Why is that version so outdated?

 

[Bob69]

I dont get that Extended stuff tbh.

What is the difference? Why is that version so outdated?

Read this post and my post 3 below it.

 

[Trasher2018]

2.4.6 is further in the story, it's the "normal" version.
2.2.24 is the extended version it is not as far, but has extra scenes, music, sounds, a gallery etc.
They did it that way every week.

OK - thanks for the info.

Wasted effort in my book (I mute the game, because I hate the "sim-like" voices and I dont care for the music in games most of the time). I play these games for the stories and the lewd stuff. I dont care about galleries.

So I guess I have to wait for the next "real" update.

In a system like patreon I can understand why they do that for higher tiers - but imho it would be better to finish the story and maybe release an extended version after they have finished a whole week.

 

[godofdeath90]

wish it had female or futa pro be hot as hell

 

[Alfius]

I am sorry, but you are wrong about your assumptions. Rape and incest are common story elements, but they should not be glorified in my country (Germany), so they shall not be enjoyed as such by the viewer. Rape porn is handled in the German criminal code article 184a and will get you up to three years in prison (and yes, if you look it up, that is the same article as for bestiality). Incest in porn isn't forbidden here (and in real life only between a man and a woman) but some legislations seem to even have problems with step-incest according to some disclaimers I saw on porn I watched. There is a reason you don't find them on mainstream porn sites in the western world and if you look for rape porn will mostly find Russian sites. However, unlike underage porn, it is forbidden to create, trade, or show them, but not illegal to watch them (which watching child pornography is).

And blackmailed sex is rape, that is pretty universal. German criminal code asks about whether the other side wants the sex (I am shortening here), not about how you force the sex to happen against their will. There might be a slightly lesser problem because excessive violence can be a problem in its own right - no matter whether rape or not - but there is a problem.

As in the US however it is perfectly fine to depict a nuke bombing Tokyo, killing tens of millions, but this discrepancy is a completely different matter. Well, outside of Japan, for historical reasons Japan handles this very differently.

But yeah, stuff like that differs a lot between countries, and as a company which is situated in the US and only has to adhere to US laws, Patreon certainly looks at what other major countries do lest they lose a good share of their turnover for some small niche project.

I think you did not read carefully.
I said:

Your assertion that incest PORN is illegal... I have never heard of such a thing. Please specify some details on this. Happy to be corrected.

In terms of rape: I was referring to rape porn (As in fictional rape in a Porn video). I'm NOT referring to real rape or blackmail to sex that is indeed illegal.

In terms of rape PORN... The only reason I could possible see that being illegal is maybe a fear that the actress was "forced" into the "role" in movie shoots happening in unknown locations with unknown actresses. Not really a problem for digital characters.
I'm still doubtful that it's actually illegal in any substantial jurisdiction (Especially the US with Freedom of speech). A number of mainstream movies contains brutal and explicit rape scenes.

You basically agreed here:

Incest in porn isn't forbidden here (and in real life only between a man and a woman) but some legislations seem to even have problems with step-incest according to some disclaimers I saw on porn I watched.

OK, just to clarify: When I say "Incest porn" I mean:
A man and a woman pretending to be brother and sister(dad/daughter,mother/son) having sex in a porn video. NOT real siblings having sex.

Just as when I say "Rape porn", I mean Two consenting adults where on pretend to rape the other in a porn video. Not a real rape captured on video.


So maybe that's where the confusion is coming in. I'm pretty sure that my definition of Incest Porn, Rape Porn is not illegal anywhere. Hence a game reflecting Incest or Porn probably won't be illegal anywhere either.

 

[TheDukeofWeapons]

The Duke will explain. Major corporations are not going to lose money in the big picture. Example. If a company can make 100 dollars as opposed to 10 by not allowing someone to do something that's truly more of a GRAY area as opposed to illegal...They are going to save their own butts. HOWEVER, there is Hypocrisy in this. In the original Stephen King Novel IT....There are FAR MORE QUESTIONABLE THINGS! HOWEVER, this did not get the book blacklisted all its life. Simply because back then there was no outcry. In our world today there is outcry which is why corporations favor money...They do not CARE about the victims they care about how much money they can lose and how they can be audited. BUT before these companies normally go hunting for stuff like this...someone does indeed have to SNITCH

 

[Cartageno]

OK, just to clarify: When I say "Incest porn" I mean:
A man and a woman pretending to be brother and sister(dad/daughter,mother/son) having sex in a porn video. NOT real siblings having sex.

Just as when I say "Rape porn", I mean Two consenting adults where on pretend to rape the other in a porn video. Not a real rape captured on video.

That we're talking about actors pretending is understood, otherwise the question of rape/incest porn would already include the actual criminal acts of rape/incest themselves.

But as I have shown above by citing the German criminal code, rape porn (i. e. actors acting out a fictional rape scene with hardcore pornographic elements) is illegal in Germany, and I am sure other places, too, and while I cannot cite a specific law from any country, I am pretty sure that incest porn is illegal somewhere, too. As I said, if you watch videos you will sometimes get disclaimers with a content warning and that you shouldn't if it is illegal in your jurisdiction. The reason for that is that you don't want to make people act out what they saw on TV, which is a thing that unfortunately happens.

That rape does happen in mainstream non-porn (but often nudity including) movies - like the critically acclaimed "The Accused" starring Jodie Foster - is true, however (a) it is not porn which makes legislation differ, and (b) they are usually not depicted to make people wank their dick, which also is a different story for many aspects.

Legislation in general can already be very different, with a sneered upon topic as porn it easily becomes more convoluted, then you have regions where you have very orthodox religious views (I am not sure but I think it was Lithuania, where clergy in porn is a problem - not outright forbidden but some stuff has to be made sure), and you have laws which seem completely off when you're from some other place, like Japan, with tentacles, loli and rape being a-ok, even in that combination, but please pixellate the genitalia. Or like the US, which has probably the most encompassing "free speech" laws for this kind of movies yet suddenly gets female nipple panic in places.

This might not be consistent, and what of that makes sense can be argued (i. e. many legislations, including Germany, also see drawings of children as child pornography) but the fact is that your assumption is wrong, these kinds of porn are illegal in major jurisdictions. Since you seem to be from the US: in the struggle between active freedoms (i. e. you can do what you want) and passive freedoms (i. e. you have the right to be left alone by others), the US is probably the country leaning most towards the active ones, whereas (almost?) every other country will curtail your active freedoms more to protect other people from you. Of course this is strongly oversimplified.

But TL;DR - this has a lot to do with legislation in many places.

 

[Alfius]

That we're talking about actors pretending is understood, otherwise the question of rape/incest porn would already include the actual criminal acts of rape/incest themselves.

But as I have shown above by citing the German criminal code, rape porn (i. e. actors acting out a fictional rape scene with hardcore pornographic elements) is illegal in Germany, and I am sure other places, too, and while I cannot cite a specific law from any country, I am pretty sure that incest porn is illegal somewhere, too. As I said, if you watch videos you will sometimes get disclaimers with a content warning and that you shouldn't if it is illegal in your jurisdiction. The reason for that is that you don't want to make people act out what they saw on TV, which is a thing that unfortunately happens.

That rape does happen in mainstream non-porn (but often nudity including) movies - like the critically acclaimed "The Accused" starring Jodie Foster - is true, however (a) it is not porn which makes legislation differ, and (b) they are usually not depicted to make people wank their dick, which also is a different story for many aspects.

Legislation in general can already be very different, with a sneered upon topic as porn it easily becomes more convoluted, then you have regions where you have very orthodox religious views (I am not sure but I think it was Lithuania, where clergy in porn is a problem - not outright forbidden but some stuff has to be made sure), and you have laws which seem completely off when you're from some other place, like Japan, with tentacles, loli and rape being a-ok, even in that combination, but please pixellate the genitalia. Or like the US, which has probably the most encompassing "free speech" laws for this kind of movies yet suddenly gets female nipple panic in places.

This might not be consistent, and what of that makes sense can be argued (i. e. many legislations, including Germany, also see drawings of children as child pornography) but the fact is that your assumption is wrong, these kinds of porn are illegal in major jurisdictions. Since you seem to be from the US: in the struggle between active freedoms (i. e. you can do what you want) and passive freedoms (i. e. you have the right to be left alone by others), the US is probably the country leaning most towards the active ones, whereas (almost?) every other country will curtail your active freedoms more to protect other people from you. Of course this is strongly oversimplified.

But TL;DR - this has a lot to do with legislation in many places.

In that case, I stand corrected.

Rape with Nudity is fairly common. Arguably the sex scene in Basic instinct with the psychiatrist can be considered rape.

If it's illegal in some countries, then I guess I'm in the wrong here. Carry on please.

 

[chaf]

Unfortunatelly the saves do not work anymore. This seams at least in my case.

this is an old save that is working.
after this scene the new update ends so all saves after this scene does not work any more
View attachment 3-3-LT1.save