Wooloomooloo

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No, you're meant to think that the MC, having built Lydia up in his mind for an entire year without ever speaking to her, thinks she's amazing. He's only just started talking to her so, as yet, he doesn't know her and neither do we. I personnally don't think much of her but I accept that the MC, who most decidedly isn't me, does.
By necessity, in every game ever, the player controls the character that is his insertion into the game's world. Now, this can be handled in (at least) two rather different ways in a game - you can have the player control the PC absolutely, allowing him to mold the PC into an exact replica of his person; or you can have a well-defined PC (usually with a more or less predetermined storyline) that the player is only allowed to "steer" to a limited degree (which can nonetheless not be zero, unless we're talking about a kinetic novel where the player gets to decide nothing at all - arguably not a game at that point, but I digress).

Neither approach is inherently "worse" or "less valid" than the other, but players most certainly can and do have strong preferences about playing either style only or both. There's nothing wrong with that. You're NOT "supposed to" accept being railroaded onto a trajectory entirely opposed to what you would prefer to do - rather, this is simply the (latter) approach this game chose to go with, implying that your options are to attempt to make the best of a forced scenario highly contrary to what you would choose if only you had the liberty to do so, or to accept that this game is not accommodating your preferred style and give up.

Personally, I very much prefer to play games where I am granted absolute liberty to be who I am, but the fact that this game definitely will not do that will not deter me from playing it considering how rare it is to find a game addressing some of my favorite fetishes properly. That said, I feel ZERO obligation to refrain from voicing my preference or my discomfort at playing if the subject gets discussed, regardless of what some people seem to think I'm "meant" to do. I am NOT petitioning the game's developer to change his game to suit my preference. Incidentally, I also give ZERO FUCKS about who finds my preferences at odds with their own, or what they think I should or should not do about it.

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somebodynobody

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No milf tag?
It is lacking a bunch of tags.

Blackmail (app)
Creampie (multiple people)
Female Domination (girl in dorm and at beach)
Groping (nothing specific)
Handjob (shower with ditzy girl)
Interracial (MC with Friend's "sister")
Milf (Real estate lady)
Oral Sex (Multiple times)
Pregnancy (More of moment of impregnation)
Romance (Girl MC is crushing on and trying to date, or his best friend)
School Setting (happens in college)
Spanking (multiple times towards end of version)
Stripping (not stripper stripping, but removal of clothes)
Trap (Technically already covered under Futa/Trans, not sure the difference in the tag description)
Virgin (supposedly some are)
 

somebodynobody

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Most of these too.

Unsure what the party roof event is, "Magic" but never explained. So unsure what it would qualify under like drugs/superpowers/scifi/paranormal etc.


bdsm (this goes along with the female dom and slave one)
cheating (MC with Min, or MC end of version)
corruption (lesbian who during a "magic" event gets addicted to dick of MC)
cosplay (costume party)
footjob (there is foot stuff, but can't exactly remember this one)
Humor (maybe, people make jokes, unsure the actual definition for this tag)
Male domination (can be dominant in some sex or spanking)
Masturbation (MC shower flashback)
ntr (I guess, is the friend's stuff)
pov (randomly during some sex scenes)
rape (attempted)
sex toys (Min shown with them at party I think)
slave (maybe from the fem dom)
teasing (unsure actual definition for tag, I would guess multi colored hair girl for this)
titfuck (can't honestly remember if this one happened)
 
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Oldmantac

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It is lacking a bunch of tags.

Blackmail (app)
Creampie (multiple people)
Female Domination (girl in dorm and at beach)
Groping (nothing specific)
Handjob (shower with ditzy girl)
Interracial (MC with Friend's "sister")
Milf (Real estate lady)
Oral Sex (Multiple times)
Pregnancy (More of moment of impregnation)
Romance (Girl MC is crushing on and trying to date, or his best friend)
School Setting (happens in college)
Spanking (multiple times towards end of version)
Stripping (not stripper stripping, but removal of clothes)
Trap (Technically already covered under Futa/Trans, not sure the difference in the tag description)
Virgin (supposedly some are)
No to the trap tag. Lyssa is very upfront about what she brings to the table.

As far as pregnancy, until someone actually becomes impregnated that tag shouldn't be included.
Stripping is quite a stretch,you have to take off some clothes to have sex. I'd argue that until someone actually puts on a strip show, it would be confusing to add it.
 
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It is lacking a bunch of tags.

Blackmail (app)
Creampie (multiple people)
Female Domination (girl in dorm and at beach)
Groping (nothing specific)
Handjob (shower with ditzy girl)
Interracial (MC with Friend's "sister")
Milf (Real estate lady)
Oral Sex (Multiple times)
Pregnancy (More of moment of impregnation)
Romance (Girl MC is crushing on and trying to date, or his best friend)
School Setting (happens in college)
Spanking (multiple times towards end of version)
Stripping (not stripper stripping, but removal of clothes)
Trap (Technically already covered under Futa/Trans, not sure the difference in the tag description)
Virgin (supposedly some are)
Hmm.. and about half of those would be redundant. Groping, handjob, oral, pregnancy, stripping, trap and virgin.
There isnt once mention of virgins i think?. Groping, oral, handjobs and stripping.. unless thats all the game centers about and the game excludes normal sex... these would all be overtagging, considering its pretty damn standard in just having sex. Stripping here being the only one who could get a tag in case someone actually performed a striptease (aka stripping) There isnt a trap in the game (fully male, no tits, might crossdress or just look almost feminine), there is a transsexual (Female body, tits, penis balls/vagina according to wether futa or trans, feminine look)[tag futa/trans]) and on top of that... im pretty sure the "milf" is the trans (i might be wrong here).
Its almost worse to overtag a game, than to tag whats central to the game, because it diludes the value of the tags. Everysingle game would end up with almost excactly the same tags, and maybe one or two differences only. But if you tag CENTRAL things in the game, you actually get an idea what the game is about in tags, instead of a hugeass list you just skip because its just like the 20 last games you looked at.
 
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Hmm.. and about half of those would be redundant. Groping, handjob, oral, pregnancy, stripping, trap and virgin.
There isnt once mention of virgins i think?. Groping, oral, handjobs and stripping.. unless thats all the game centers about and the game excludes normal sex... these would all be overtagging, considering its pretty damn standard in just having sex. Stripping here being the only one who could get a tag in case someone actually performed a striptease (aka stripping) There isnt a trap in the game (fully male, no tits, might crossdress or just look almost feminine), there is a transsexual (Female body, tits, penis balls/vagina according to wether futa or trans, feminine look)[tag futa/trans]) and on top of that... im pretty sure the "milf" is the trans (i might be wrong here).
Its almost worse to overtag a game, than to tag whats central to the game, because it diludes the value of the tags. Everysingle game would end up with almost excactly the same tags, and maybe one or two differences only. But if you tag CENTRAL things in the game, you actually get an idea what the game is about in tags, instead of a hugeass list you just skip because its just like the 20 last games you looked at.
A note on milf's: While Lyssa is older than the MC I don't think she qualifies. Her boss Vanessa on the other hand, now that's a milf if there ever was one. Dat swimsuit...
 
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After playing the whole of the in game week today I just have to say, Fuckin minted. Amber-Rose finally confesses her feelings, Lyssa might finally get what shes been looking for with the MC accepting everything about her, Stacy is in town and lookin SWEET & SEXY as all fuckin hell as well as acting like a lustful devil, more Dahlia femdom and an amazingly sexy mature babe Vanessa.

Huh, look at that i just listed my top 5 waifu in order just from that paragraph. Anyway I cannae wait for a lot more content with them including the possibilty for unique happily ever after endings with each of them. I agree with a lot of what others say about Lydia, granted I agree that she is a stunning natural beauty but personally i'd say she has very little impact in terms of personality. But thats my opinion, looking forward to the next update and keep up the stellar work ViNovella.
 
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somebodynobody

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No to the trap tag. Lyssa is very upfront about what she brings to the table.

As far as pregnancy, until someone actually becomes impregnated that tag shouldn't be included.
Stripping is quite a stretch,you have to take off some clothes to have sex. I'd argue that until someone actually puts on a strip show, it would be confusing to add it.

Unlike VNDB we don't have tag definitions on the site, so can only guess which version of a thing applies.

MC can make Rainbow girl take off her clothes without having sex, which still isn't stripper stripping, but it is a taking off of clothes for a non sex act.

Lyssa was upfront sure, but was post blowing MC and him not knowing, so still could fall into it.

Hmm.. and about half of those would be redundant. Groping, handjob, oral, pregnancy, stripping, trap and virgin.
There isnt once mention of virgins i think?. Groping, oral, handjobs and stripping.. unless thats all the game centers about and the game excludes normal sex... these would all be overtagging, considering its pretty damn standard in just having sex. Stripping here being the only one who could get a tag in case someone actually performed a striptease (aka stripping) There isnt a trap in the game (fully male, no tits, might crossdress or just look almost feminine), there is a transsexual (Female body, tits, penis balls/vagina according to wether futa or trans, feminine look)[tag futa/trans]) and on top of that... im pretty sure the "milf" is the trans (i might be wrong here).
Its almost worse to overtag a game, than to tag whats central to the game, because it diludes the value of the tags. Everysingle game would end up with almost excactly the same tags, and maybe one or two differences only. But if you tag CENTRAL things in the game, you actually get an idea what the game is about in tags, instead of a hugeass list you just skip because its just like the 20 last games you looked at.
The point of the tags are if they exist in the game, not if they are centered around it.

Virgin might be Lydia (MC's crush girl)

Milf was the lady who showed MC the apartment.

People have made a request to make Tags have more relevance, like the size of the tag to indicate how much of something is in the game.

However as of now "over tagging" is necessary because people will run into one offs and get turned off and complain, a single rape/murder, a single bit of NTR, people don't want to be shown these things out of nowhere.
 

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Unlike VNDB we don't have tag definitions on the site, so can only guess which version of a thing applies.

MC can make Rainbow girl take off her clothes without having sex, which still isn't stripper stripping, but it is a taking off of clothes for a non sex act.

Lyssa was upfront sure, but was post blowing MC and him not knowing, so still could fall into it.


The point of the tags are if they exist in the game, not if they are centered around it.

Virgin might be Lydia (MC's crush girl)

Milf was the lady who showed MC the apartment.

People have made a request to make Tags have more relevance, like the size of the tag to indicate how much of something is in the game.

However as of now "over tagging" is necessary because people will run into one offs and get turned off and complain, a single rape/murder, a single bit of NTR, people don't want to be shown these things out of nowhere.
Are you sure about that?

Several of the tags you asked for in the earlier post (trap, stripping, pregnancy) go against those definitions.
 
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I understand your point entirely, but specifically to the trap point, as soon as MC showed sexual interest in Lyssa, she made sure implicitly to show him what he was potentially getting into. By no stretch of the imagination could this be a trap.

A trap would be a trans woman who passes without letting her potential partner know she is in fact trans until they feel that partner is at the point of no return. While definitions may be more vague here, the two separate tags still exist for a reason. IRL this shit gets people killed and I personally would avoid the Trap tag. The Futa/trans tag more than covers the content in this game.

Her jerking off while giving him a blowjob simply doesn't cut the mustard because he already knew she was trans gender. Would you really think MC is surprised she is aroused by performing a sexual act in public? Do you actually think he forgot she had a dick?

You as the player are also given fair warning in all instances, so no there is no entrapment involved at any stage, so far, and shouldn't be. The player should be at least afforded the right of whether they're willing to see it or not.
 
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somebodynobody

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I understand your point entirely, but specifically to the trap point, as soon as MC showed sexual interest in Lyssa, she made sure implicitly to show him what he was potentially getting into. By no stretch of the imagination could this be a trap.

A trap would be a trans woman who passes without letting her potential partner know she is in fact trans until they feel that partner is at the point of no return. While definitions may be more vague here, the two separate tags still exist for a reason. IRL this shit gets people killed and I personally would avoid the Trap tag. The Futa/trans tag more than covers the content in this game.

Her jerking off while giving him a blowjob simply doesn't cut the mustard because he already knew she was trans gender. Would you really think MC is surprised she is aroused by performing a sexual act in public? Do you actually think he forgot she had a dick?

You as the player are also given fair warning in all instances, so no there is no entrapment involved at any stage, so far, and shouldn't be. The player should be at least afforded the right of whether they're willing to see it or not.
How the trap tag is defined here from the list Lemon Freak posted, it basically makes a trap = cross dresser, Lyssa is obviously someone who was using hormone replacement and doesn't look like a hell's angels biker in a dress. So she wouldn't qualify for it.

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I wasn't arguing any point post the BJ in the closet if you chose her path. The MC has no knowledge unless he presses her and she shows that she also has a penis. Which he clearly didn't think she did, hence his pushing to make sure she wasn't also his oral secret santa.

Hence why I guessed it might require a trap tag. Because he had no clue, and he had sexual relations with her without knowing, hence the "Trap" terminology. Now if it was shown prior to the BJ, of course it wouldn't be.

With what was posted earlier though the Trap tag here basically refers to crossdressing. "Trap [Usually men in women's clothing, but may also be the other way around.]"

I will agree with you on the warning though with the prompt that pops up about how the player feels on trans people prior to the party choices. So the player does know it may come up, just not know where/who.
 
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