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Saving Chloe is the one a few of us have been waiting for.
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i liked this game, very very immersive, you really impersonate the main character. and the girl is very well made. a shame is too short. however the storyline doesn't end, it would be interesting to see a sequel
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Hopefully they make another one of these with miranda as the main female character. That casino date scene was probably one of the more hotter ones. Seems like the character would fit a good spy story theme.
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It's more a story with a choice score system. The only "cheating" going on is seeing a guys ex wife fuck a couple of old guys depending on choices made but she's a minor character.
That being said, this is the 3rd story in a large story arc. You need Dreaming with Elsa and Redemption for Jessika first.
That being said, this is the 3rd story in a large story arc. You need Dreaming with Elsa and Redemption for Jessika first.
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Hi folks. I recently joined and have been slowly going through the threads. This one has been quiet for a long time, but I'll comment anyway.
Although I've written a fair number of games/VNs (depending on how you count them, Finding Miranda was my 7th), I'm still learning and experimenting as I go.
I had received a lot of feedback on previous games that people didn't like that I railroaded them into who the male character was. They wanted more choice of who to be. This was my attempt to give them that. I recognize that it didn't work, though. There were a couple of problems with it.
One was that the meaning differences between the choices were pretty subtle. That made this somewhat of a "read the writer's mind" affair, which I hate in other games. And, I completely missed that this system would be inscrutable for people who weren't native English speakers.
Another problem was that, while I gave you 4 choices of who to be, they weren't choices that many people wanted. I was trying to find the right balance between "user choice" and "character I want to tell a story about," but I came up short.
I had also gotten a ton of feedback that people wanted branching storylines. They even posted links to articles that drew boxes for story choices that looked a lot like what FM was, branching and coming back, etc. So I decided to try it, but, in retrospect, feel that it didn't work well enough. This kind of thing forces you to replay content you've already seen, so it's a balance between "choice" and "redundancy." I've come to decide that 4 made the wrong balance. I had done 2 in the previous two games, and it seemed to work better. Not sure how 3 would have gone, because I abandoned the whole concept in the next game.
So, live and learn. If we're not trying to grow, we're dying.
All that said, though, this was one of my favorite games because of Miranda. Of all of my characters in my games, Miranda means the most to me, because she's based on a real person I know. She's a freakin' superhero, but not because she has all those skills. Anyone who doesn't need to sleep would be able to learn to paint and fix motorcycles, etc. Miranda's a superhero because, despite being in constant pain, she manages to even function. The person I know is also in constant pain and is holding it together. I'm in awe. Some people think I made Miranda "too good." I think I didn't make her good enough...
Tlaero
Although I've written a fair number of games/VNs (depending on how you count them, Finding Miranda was my 7th), I'm still learning and experimenting as I go.
I had received a lot of feedback on previous games that people didn't like that I railroaded them into who the male character was. They wanted more choice of who to be. This was my attempt to give them that. I recognize that it didn't work, though. There were a couple of problems with it.
One was that the meaning differences between the choices were pretty subtle. That made this somewhat of a "read the writer's mind" affair, which I hate in other games. And, I completely missed that this system would be inscrutable for people who weren't native English speakers.
Another problem was that, while I gave you 4 choices of who to be, they weren't choices that many people wanted. I was trying to find the right balance between "user choice" and "character I want to tell a story about," but I came up short.
I had also gotten a ton of feedback that people wanted branching storylines. They even posted links to articles that drew boxes for story choices that looked a lot like what FM was, branching and coming back, etc. So I decided to try it, but, in retrospect, feel that it didn't work well enough. This kind of thing forces you to replay content you've already seen, so it's a balance between "choice" and "redundancy." I've come to decide that 4 made the wrong balance. I had done 2 in the previous two games, and it seemed to work better. Not sure how 3 would have gone, because I abandoned the whole concept in the next game.
So, live and learn. If we're not trying to grow, we're dying.
All that said, though, this was one of my favorite games because of Miranda. Of all of my characters in my games, Miranda means the most to me, because she's based on a real person I know. She's a freakin' superhero, but not because she has all those skills. Anyone who doesn't need to sleep would be able to learn to paint and fix motorcycles, etc. Miranda's a superhero because, despite being in constant pain, she manages to even function. The person I know is also in constant pain and is holding it together. I'm in awe. Some people think I made Miranda "too good." I think I didn't make her good enough...
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All of the Tora games are HTML, which means you play them in your web browser and they are not designed for any specific operating system. So you should already be able to play them.
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@Tlaero I have noticed that your rendering skills have improved since your first game, I know you are busy with other games, but I didn't know if you had considered doing remastered versions of the Elsaverse games? I know I for one would greatly appreciate it, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Didn't know what you thought, all the best from us 95ers
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Thank you, David. There are two of us who work on the Tora Productions games. I do the writing and programming and Mortze does the artwork. Although last year's schedule (working on three stories at a time) burned me out, in general, our limiting factor is creation of the images. Many of those images take over an hour to render, and we tend to have a thousand or more of them in our games.
What this means is that re-rendering the images in one of our previous games would have to happen instead of writing a new game. I generally prefer to move forward rather than look back. I have re-released games before, but it's always been reworking the programming, not the images. Also, it has always happened when I couldn't move forward on a new game because my artist was unavailable.
Tlaero
What this means is that re-rendering the images in one of our previous games would have to happen instead of writing a new game. I generally prefer to move forward rather than look back. I have re-released games before, but it's always been reworking the programming, not the images. Also, it has always happened when I couldn't move forward on a new game because my artist was unavailable.
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I completely understand that, thank you for taking the time to let me know, and as always I look forward to see what you two can do.
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These are games, and games need to have consequences when you don't play them well enough. In the six games I wrote before this one, the consequence was that the game ended. In Finding Miranda, I tried to experiment with that mechanism by removing the "game over" while keeping some sort of consequence. The feedback, however, was loud and clear that people didn't like it. So I didn't use this mechanic on the games I wrote after this one.
Maybe I was "stupid" as you suggested, but things aren't always as clear ahead of time as they are when looking back.
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Maybe I was "stupid" as you suggested, but things aren't always as clear ahead of time as they are when looking back.
T
