Sarkath

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In any case, as I've said, the game lags importing when there's too much stuff (of course!).
A new game, without any cheats activated, has very little info to load.

For example, after using the cheat to unlock all locations, the importing process takes around 10 minutes (!!!), while having only a couple locations only takes like 3-5 seconds.
Last time I tried mucking about with the stats I let it sit for over 10 minutes on a fairly fast gaming PC. I might have edited the wrong field, though. I developed the editor at a pretty fast pace, and my test cycle was admittedly pretty haphazard.

That would be indeed better!
I was just pointing out in case it's helpful.
Definitely! I haven't explored FSNumberSave aside from some quick testing with number types, and for hacking in freecreds at one point, so your insight is especially helpful.

I'm still trying to figure out how I want to present the data to the user. I kind of feel like having two editor modes available would be the best approach: an easy/guided mode for people who just want to quickly muck with their stats, and an advanced mode for people who want to get a more raw view of the files. The former would present everything in a clean and concise way, and would probably be perfectly fine for 95% of all use cases, while the latter would be for when people want to dive directly into the data (though it would at least have the field names filled out, unlike my current editor).
 

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Last time I tried mucking about with the stats I let it sit for over 10 minutes on a fairly fast gaming PC. I might have edited the wrong field, though. I developed the editor at a pretty fast pace, and my test cycle was admittedly pretty haphazard.
I just did a fresh new game. Importing took around 2-3 minutes, since I didn't unlocked anything.
It's the amount of data it needs to run *shrug* (I'm not sure about how fast works exporting after editing with notepad++. Compared to your editor, it's a lot more bothersome and tedious, since it's just raw numbers without columns)

! I haven't explored FSNumberSave aside from some quick testing with number types, and for hacking in freecreds at one point, so your insight is especially helpful.
I just read the whole file.
It's basically the numbers for every flag regarding characters and status-es mostly.
But it's useful to edit specific status, like heat, well-rested duration, score, egging, etc. Also to edit NPCs status, like pregnancy or relationship levels.

I'm still trying to figure out how I want to present the data to the user. I kind of feel like having two editor modes available would be the best approach: an easy/guided mode for people who just want to quickly muck with their stats, and an advanced mode for people who want to get a more raw view of the files. The former would present everything in a clean and concise way, and would probably be perfectly fine for 95% of all use cases, while the latter would be for when people want to dive directly into the data (though it would at least have the field names filled out, unlike my current editor).
That would work great.
Though, honestly, the current editor would be perfect if we get to know what's for each column (for example, 2nd/3rd column is for health, 4th for experience, etc). I don't see much point in wasting your time developing another editor, since the current one is actually simple to understand and has everything!

I'm not entirely sure, but I think stats have changed since the last time I fiddled with edits.
I remember that, for example, penises had 2 scores, one for amount and another for size (like boobs and balls), but now they have 3 stats (one extra for width or something like that) which totally throws me off.
After that is the type of ears, face, body etc (not in that order) for when you get TFed, but I don't remember which is which exactly.
Then, and I'm just speculating, there are extra descriptors (which don't show on the sheet for NPCs, since they become available when the player gets infected)
Looking at the Easter Bunny TF code, it adds descriptions for thighs, feet and ass, even though they don't change shape.
Personally I'd like to be able to edit and give my characters those extra descriptions when in human form. I'm not sure why the human form description has to be so bland.
 
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Sarkath

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I just did a fresh new game. Importing took around 2-3 minutes, since I didn't unlocked anything.
I'll have to try it again, then. Editing the values directly would be much faster than gaining levels in debug mode.

I just read the whole file.
It's basically the numbers for every flag regarding characters and status-es mostly.
But it's useful to edit specific status, like heat, well-rested duration, score, egging, etc. Also to edit NPCs status, like pregnancy or relationship levels.
True, true.

I'll definitely have to take a deeper look into it, then.

That would work great.
Though, honestly, the current editor would be perfect if we get to know what's for each column (for example, 2nd/3rd column is for health, 4th for experience, etc). I don't see much point in wasting your time developing another editor, since the current one is actually simple to understand and has everything!
The biggest issue that I currently have with the current editor is that it's Windows-only, and I can't really resolve that without rewriting the user interface code at the very least. I tend to use Linux/macOS more than Windows nowadays, and while I could probably just run it using Mono (an implementation of the .NET Framework that can run under Linux/macOS) I'd rather take a more native and modern approach: .NET 5.0 using Eto.Forms, in this particular case.

Another issue is that the current editor was very hastily written. There isn't much in the way of error correction and things like that. It's going to take a fair amount of planning to properly add column name support (since I'd want to sensibly limit the values to ones that the game can accept—particularly with things like traits), so I figure I might as well take things a step further while I'm at it.

Fortunately, I've been getting back into Flexible Survival again with the latest update, so I'm planning to get back to work on this very soon.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think stats have changed since the last time I fiddled with edits.
I remember that, for example, penises had 2 scores, one for amount and another for size (like boobs and balls), but now they have 3 stats (one extra for width or something like that) which totally throws me off.
After that is the type of ears, face, body etc (not in that order) for when you get TFed, but I don't remember which is which exactly.
Then, and I'm just speculating, there are extra descriptors (which don't show on the sheet for NPCs, since they become available when the player gets infected)
Yeah, the way the game tracks physical traits has changed within the past year or so. I haven't looked to see how often the new description and property fields are actually used in the game, but it looks like the new system is designed to be a bit more flexible.

Looking at the Easter Bunny TF code, it adds descriptions for thighs, feet and ass, even though they don't change shape.
Personally I'd like to be able to edit and give my characters those extra descriptions when in human form. I'm not sure why the human form description has to be so bland.
I think a lot of that has to do with how late the freeform description fields were added, as well as how furry/anthro-centric FS tends to be. Hopefully they roll out a way to influence those fields in-game at some point.
 

MadSwede87

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This may be a stupid question but
but how do I access the save export files I can see the folder where they should be when I save but can not see them otherwise
 

gravesto

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Dec 8, 2019
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How can I play online it seems like it isn't working

I have download Mudlet and given it flexiblesurvival.com address and then it said i need to log in but i do not know how to do it

can anyone give me an example to log in

it alway said incorect login but i have type name and password exactly in the ATTENTION
 

alfabb

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is this offline?

Theres a Single Player Version and a Multiplayer (ie MUD) version. The later is obviously online. The single player version you can either download and play offline or you can play it on their site (but thats pretty bugged afaik).
 

Lestev

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I have download Mudlet and given it flexiblesurvival.com address and then it said i need to log in but i do not know how to do it
I don't know if they are still updating the multiplayer version, last time they talked about it in their blog was like years ago. Meanwhile the single player version is usually updated monthly. You should play that one by using the installer.
 

codefost

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About update.. how I get update? Is it in web or do i need to wait?
Like 2 update ahead before publice. I'M NEW HERE!
 

nackedsnake

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About update.. how I get update? Is it in web or do i need to wait?
Like 2 update ahead before publice. I'M NEW HERE!
Download the installer on
They make public releases monthly, what you get is what's available.
 
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