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VortexYeo

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I nornally only check that thread once a month or so, so didnt know what was up. Just saw some threads about it. [Like https://f95zone.to/threads/what-happened-to-the-mmd-thread-this-time.221237/page-8]

Ill try and be factual, though clearly I like MMDs and so am dissapointed by this.

Basically mods didnt want to deal with moderating it anymore and wiped it out completely instead - alongside some other MMD artist threads that seem to have not broken any rules. I believe the cause was over Rule 7, though cant confirm. Apparantly you now have to make a request thread for specific creators, though i saw some people mentioning they need approval and there are some that have been waiting for that for years, so idk.

Its going to be a lot harder to find/share new MMD artists on here, unless they already have a dedicated thread.

There seems to be basically no chance that they will allow another general one to be created either - many mods in there have made it clear they dont like MMDs at all, which is fine - there are many things on here that im not a fan of, like the beast stuff - though the phrasing used definetly pissed people off. The people arguing about how they chose to delete the whole thread rather than remove the offending posts are basically being ignored/told to just deal with it (some in nicer terms, others not so nice.)

There are some people in that thread sharing links to a potential Korean alternative, or some other thing which is apparantly a discord alternative (which requires you to download a seperate app or something).
Doesn't flim13 technically also break rule 7 by making porn involving shota? So why is this thread not banned like other threads? Double standard mfs mods
 

Yeppyxyz

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LOL don't give them ideas sweetheart
They banned the largest mmd sharing thread with tons of resources that the community has built over the years without a proper announcement. This site is a lost cause for mmd. Unless the mods are just lazy and banned the mmd sharing thread so they don't have to deal with it no more, they will eventually ban this thread for breaking rule 7 (they're not blind) like what they did to the other threads (even those that didn't break the rule)
 
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SunshadeAlpha

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They banned the largest mmd sharing thread with tons of resources that the community has built over the years without a proper announcement. This site is a lost cause for mmd. Unless the mods are just lazy and banned the mmd sharing thread so they don't have to deal with it no more, they will eventually ban this thread for breaking rule 7 (they're not blind) like what they did to the other threads (even those that didn't break the rule)
It's been made pretty clear from that thread I linked on Page 66 that many mods and other users dont like MMDs at all.

From a moderator responding to someone asking what MMDs are:
Silly anime naked dancing.
From some other user who I don't believe is a moderator (since it doesn't specify it like with the above user) but seems to be very active here given all the flashing lights/titles on their user thing:
I assume you mean RedKnight especially with his response " Silly anime naked dancing." Which is just his opinion and probably most of the f95 community will agree with. Although most of us don't like MMD and don't see any appeal in it we still let people share it and don't nuke it because we dislike it. If this would be the case most content would already be nuked.
 

SunshadeAlpha

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may i know any similiar site like this one?
There are quite a few shared in that thread I linked on Page 66. Here are some:

Im not using a weird Korean site for MMD, and I tried this Matrix thing but im too much of a boomer to wrap my head around it, same problem with discord. Here's an anime sharing thread, not only do they have most of this forums functionalities but they also love and welcome loli content over there.


I'll be posting citrus updates there regardless if people join in.
There is a matrix server thing made by some users, and there is the arca mmd forum.
Both were made on the same day I believe, and people upload content on both places so choose to your preference.
You'll both have to make an account and log in to see content in either matrix or arca.

The arca link -
The matrix link -

There is an anime-sharing thread made few hours ago, but I doubt this will get many attention cause this was made pretty late. Also I'm not a fan of the thread system so I'll probably stick with the first 2.
 

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It's been made pretty clear from that thread I linked on Page 66 that many mods and other users dont like MMDs at all.

From a moderator responding to someone asking what MMDs are:


From some other user who I don't believe is a moderator (since it doesn't specify it like with the above user) but seems to be very active here given all the flashing lights/titles on their user thing:
That's right I personally don't really like MMD and don't see any appeal in it but that doesn't mean I just nuke it i still do threads. The MMD thread was banned for 3 reasons which i also clearly stated in the thread.
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Could the Staff/Mod resolve the issue better in giving at least some time until nuking the thread sure I think so as well but i ain't Mod nor Staff and can't do much about it. If you share stuff in the animation section report it while following the current rules i have no issue in providing extra mirrors etc after all that's my "Job" here.
 

SunshadeAlpha

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Any policy of doing business is their right, since it is, after all, their site. However, understanding what not to do and where to retreat is part of competent management. You can remain principled and unwavering, but you can also remain forgotten in the middle of nowhere - even with the largest companies this has happened, ten years have passed, and younger people have never even heard of them.

I can give them credit at least in that they almost honestly admitted that they generally do not like this part of erotic content in principle and they have always made concessions with difficulty when it comes to this. Already much more honest than most of such answers.

I can generally understand their position. And at the same time, I can not. On the one hand, MMD really adheres to the "modern Eastern vision of eroticism", which means - a lot of questions about the age of the participants due to their appearance and voice. On the other hand, any content with anthropomorphic animals raises an equally dangerous question about the rationality of at least one of the participants in the action and their consent to it - if we are operating with real criteria for completely fictitious erotic content.

Their position, again, does not look like it refers to laws or anything like that - the very specificity of the site suggests piracy and distribution of a lot of dubious erotica. And if this is literally just a position based on preferences and subjective assessment, then again - their right, but then the first paragraph of my message is even more relevant.

To me, it looks like they really would like to simply ban MMD with some exceptions (which they would also like to allow to a minimum), but they can't or have not yet decided - because, surprise, this is also a very large and active audience (iwara.tv is so huge for a reason). It feels like they are fighting their own greed in a sense. Not in the financial, but in the media direction.
Yea, I do understand their reasoning behind some things - the ambigious age/loli/shota stuff isn't really the sort of thing that flies in the west and allowing it here is just asking for the whole site to get shut down sooner or later.

While I do think that getting rid of the MMD thread without any warning was a bit much, given they don't care about MMD, it's not surprising. Like if you check that thread I linked there are just pages of people arguing over the legality of loli shit. If you have people like that who are arguing from that angle, then it makes sense they would rather just ban the whole thread than deal with moderating it - especially given the other weird shit that happened in the past there, like those users setting up weird elaborate puzzles or whatever to obscure links, or that stuff around messaging some guy to gain access to some seperate site or whatever.

Everyone draws the line of what they think is acceptable depnding on their preferences. Just like there are clearly some people in that thread/this site that wouldn't give a shit if MMD were banned entirely, I personally wouldn't care if beast or insect stuff was banned, since I don't see the appeal of that stuff at all.

Their current actions basically kills the ability to discover new MMD artists here on F95 generally (specifically would still be fine though - like someone asking in this thread for similar artists to Flim for example) as well as makes it much more difficult for those who have very little/infrequent content to be shared, given they are unlikely to have dedicated threads. I remember when I first discovered Flim via the MMD General thread, he didn't have his own dedicated thread and people were mainly sharing his videos via the Blendy thread.

Idk why there are people arguing about the rule 7 stuff, since thats been banned for ages here and clearly wont change anytime soon [likely will only get stricter imo]. While there are definetly examples of threads where it is not being enforced as strictly, thats probably because most are smaller threads and dont have the rule breaking stuff as their main focus - the MMD general thread was too big and disorganised so that, whenever rule breaking stuff was shared, it made it very difficult to filter out and remove.
 

SunshadeAlpha

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That's right I personally don't really like MMD and don't see any appeal in it but that doesn't mean I just nuke it i still do threads. The MMD thread was banned for 3 reasons which i also clearly stated in the thread.
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Could the Staff/Mod resolve the issue better in giving at least some time until nuking the thread sure I think so as well but i ain't Mod nor Staff and can't do much about it. If you share stuff in the animation section report it while following the current rules i have no issue in providing extra mirrors etc after all that's my "Job" here.
I made a long post just above responding to someone else, but it's basically exactly as you said. Given all the issues with that thread it makes sense why they would choose to just nuke it rather than try and moderate it anymore.
 
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Bale99

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Ahh...
Flim13 Original Character
What about Mitsuki's...
Was he a step father of her?
She does hangout 'karaoke night" with him once right?
And Im guessing, Mitsuki's mother was re-married...and she keeps calling him "Papa" when doing incest with full pure love...

Her background kind a hard to know...but she is Gyaru right?
 

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That's right I personally don't really like MMD and don't see any appeal in it but that doesn't mean I just nuke it i still do threads. The MMD thread was banned for 3 reasons which i also clearly stated in the thread.
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Could the Staff/Mod resolve the issue better in giving at least some time until nuking the thread sure I think so as well but i ain't Mod nor Staff and can't do much about it. If you share stuff in the animation section report it while following the current rules i have no issue in providing extra mirrors etc after all that's my "Job" here.
wait, they were sharing CP on that thread ? okay thats messed up
 
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