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Others Forest of the Blue Skin [Build June] [Zell23]
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- Jun 24, 2018
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What do the hearts/no hearts signify in his latest in-development game, White Tower or Mysterious mansion or whatever?
- Sep 22, 2023
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Like extra lifes I think.
Although some of them can take more then one heart away or even all.
I guess it's just a little, if not a big, help for when you get nabbed a few too many times that you don't instantly keil over.
Although some of them can take more then one heart away or even all.
I guess it's just a little, if not a big, help for when you get nabbed a few too many times that you don't instantly keil over.
- Jun 24, 2018
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So the monsters with hearts around them do more damage than the ones without? There aren't many but I noticed with those smiling crawling rabbit things, if you cum on them they get hearts and in their room one starts without it while the rest already have hearts.
So I'm confused as to what this is supposed to signify. In Succubus Affection if I recall correctly that was how you could tell when you could sex and collect them.
- Sep 22, 2023
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Oh those, I thought you meant the hearts above your health meter.
No no those, at least in this gallery demo, are to differentiate between the 2 scenes that those necro-bunnies have.
If there are more enemies with hearts on them I'm not sure what exactly those mean.
No no those, at least in this gallery demo, are to differentiate between the 2 scenes that those necro-bunnies have.
If there are more enemies with hearts on them I'm not sure what exactly those mean.
- Sep 22, 2023
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- May 13, 2018
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I think it may be something like that, or even an (extra)horny aura, either you will be able to inflict it to them in the game to make them safer or something like that or so you pass the puzzle\challenge to progress further like it also happens in FOBS or it could represent that they are more dangerous than the regular ones or it's just to create a easy way to distinct them from each other in this "gallery" demo version, because yeah as 2 people already said, it they have different scenes from the main ones..
- May 13, 2018
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First, the game was never been abandoned, only on hiatus while Zell was focused on other projects. Second Zell is already working on FOBS again or more specifically on a Remake you can find on previous messages links to both the new version of the remake (that just become available less than a month ago) as well as all "test" versions for their other game. And third the abandoned tag in this website is used in a bunch of other circumstances like the lack of updates in 18 months or not having any news about the developer for 6 months or something like that so don't trust this tag when you see it. Now about how much time is this game marked as "Abandoned" I don't know, 2 maybe 3 or even more years now.
- Jun 24, 2018
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You SHOULD trust the tag, since it's technically correct 99% of the time. The dev can say all they want but I'm on F95's side about promising dinner when you're not even in the kitchen is a far cry from serving it in front of us.
Teurge or whatever that game is called has been "in active development" with the dev basically saying that weekly, and it hasn't received a single update in what, almost half a decade? Not even a sneaky fake-update.
If you think the abandoned tag is lying about that, you can go sit in the delusional kiddie pool with him too and tell it to your imaginary friends, lol.
- May 13, 2018
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I will do that then. Can you point me out to where I can find him, none of my imaginary friends know and I don't want to waste too much time looking for him.
dude.. he literally just released a new fobs update last month. it was an actual playable demo of the fobs rebuild in the new software. it has a ways to go, but for 1 month of work in software he's still not mastered, he did a fair bit. 3 monster girls and 2 maps/scenes, and one door/portal.
- Jun 24, 2018
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I played the FOBS rebuild, and it's barebones man. And probably only being 'remade' because it's been 'in development' for a ridiculous amount of time lol. You yourself said how barebones it is lol. I will admit that maybe we could debate whether a rebuild counts, but IMO I say hard no.
And the reason is that do-over/recode/moving engines/redoing artwork/blah blah blah are all incredibly common tricks sub milkers have been employing for years and isn't actually meaningful progress.
To be clear, Zell has already shown he can actually release games. This isn't about him specifically. This is about setting a baseline so people can efficiently see which games not to get their hopes up and to encourage devs who are on this site and actually care about the potential audience here to not be trolls.
IMO, a do-over/recode/engine upgrade/art rework/blah blah blah should not count as an update until it surpasses the previous state of the game to make it perfectly clear that the dev is still going in circles with said game.
An abandoned tag is not the end of the world or a slight against the creator. It is a TOOL for US, and its point should be to let potential players know that no real progress in being made on the game and hasn't for whatever the window is (a year if I recall). That is a long freaking time.
So my point stands. If a game gets the abandoned tag, to anyone but the most zealous and fanatical votaries of porn of all thing, it is usually accurate.
I actually don't know what our policy is about rdo-over/recode/you get the point, but IMO we should start being far harsher about that crap, even if it means having a new tag warning about it.
But if you want to count negative progress as an update, whatever I guess.
- Sep 22, 2023
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I like them a ton too, he puts a lot of work into them and is really imaginative, but imo you shouldn't discredit the game side. FOBs and SA weren't the craziest things ever gameplay-wise but they're pretty competent. Hopefully he gets better at the gameplay side too over time.I'm just here for the animations
- May 13, 2018
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Yeah very accurate, a contradicting tag, it can either mean that the game is abandoned but it can also mean that the game is not abandoned just like a door with a locker saying that it's locked but it can actually be open, it sure makes a lot of sense to me, it's not like they had a million other words they could use to point out those "scam/milking/lazy dev" projects so they got forced to recycle the only word left.
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- Sep 22, 2023
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OPEN - CLOSED - LOCKED
Know your door state differences
This has been an out-of-the-blue PSA!
idk if we should wait that long to remove the abandoned tag, you do realize how much of a game fobs became right?
from my understanding he's pretty genuine when he says he's going to do something. back when fobs was 1 game he ran into limitations which prevented the interactions he wanted to put in, predominantly physics. so he made a fobs B set-up a different way so the movement wasn't just dloc and actually used some form of force linearvelocity and friction system. then aparently he got invited to work on other games which paid a salary (SA), and most of his time went into that to the point he put fobs on hold notice. then one thing led to another and other games came up, shiratane and such. then those were mostly finished, so now he's returning to fobs.
What I gather is, rather than use the old engine he used for fobs A and B, he wants to use the same software as shiratane tower because it allows alot more in terms of physics, interactive elements(like above head bars, zooming and higher resolution graphics) and more advanced control over menus etc. pretty much he did SA and saw some game elements he liked and for whatever reason could not do them in the old software.
with that out of the way, I'd say we should remove the abandoned tag when enough progress towards rebuilding the game is done to show "meaningful intent".
so I'm just going to list some things that the current version is lacking that if added would show meaningful intent in my book;
1: entry to character's house
2: a working save point
3: a gallery hall and room for captured girls
4: the ability to actually capture girls
5: at least 3 items; masturbate, run and dash
6: access to the initial fobs zones (forest, and mountains)
7: new alternate animations for existing fobs characters and/or new girls(we have this #7 started already, so lets see if he continues with it).
Essentially I expect to see fobs (v0.whatever) recreated, however I naturally expect to see him include new things such as elements he liked about the other games he worked on, like perhaps collectables and a store, or companion monster girls, girl levels increasing abilities of your crest-items'power like in SA. maybe extra lives, and gear. I don't expect these things exactly but something like them to warrant using this new software.
lastly;
8: bench girl should be placed at locations he will continue from in the future
this is not much to ask, though it will take him a while to rebuild the forest and mountains. but if he does somewhat complete this list in whatever way he does, then I'd say it's fair to remove the abandoned tag. Even if he switches to another game (like SA2) later we should remove the abandoned tag if he has made the meaningful intent of progress in rebuilding this and continues to some level.
- Jun 28, 2021
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Guys,im confused.So theres FOBS which Zell23 is remaking,then theres shiro no yakata which was completed(i think?idk)then is being remaked or something?then theres shiratane tower?Also theres a sequel to succubus affection?