It's more of an old ship that has lost most of it's active fanbase than it is a meme TBH
Except Azula canonicaly had no freaking clue anything was wrong at that point as said in the novelization, she was just fucking with Zuko and Zuko was just being paranoid when he though she was setting him up (he overestimated her).
She get doubtful at times but mostly dismiss it as his melodrama, if Azula had really been convinced Zuko was bulshitting, she'd have used it, even if at that point she was pretty chill with him (the novelisation has her be actualy serious about restoring Zuko and the whole team up thing, that wasn't a trick, though one of the staff guy said on twitter that they weren't really sure themself on that so we got a few mixed signal in that storyline, take that as you will, i personaly don't put much stock in twitter info but it does fit), it's pretty obvious, Azula always used everything at her disposal.Oh, she may not know for certain but she's convinced enough to lie about the Avatar's dead to her father in case Suko is lying to her (screenshot from the scene where she's getting suspicious) and she's absolutely right about it.
I don't see her as weak or overconfident, there's plenty of situations where she's reading and manipulating people on the highest level. Toph can't even tell if she's lying.
In my book she's the most impressive character in regards to power play and real powers. She's kind of an evil Iroh.
It's not derailing, we're just actively talking about characters that are in the game and how book 2 was constructed, discussion is pretty interesting IMO, though i haven't really seen someone tell me why the OC was necessary yet.
I haven't read the comics nor did I follow the anime series back then, Mity's game was what introduced me to it. Of course every additional information you get will alter how you perceive a certain scene/situation/character. Given that I don't think we're far away in how we portrait Azula. Part of what makes her so interesting is the unknown about her 'real' character. She admits, she's a monster but not without mentioning being neglected by her mother. For me she has a hidden core inside her that can be human and loving but this view surely is influenced by my own view of the world. On the last part I agree on 100%.
1. You're comparing two completely different scenes. It's for the luls I get that, but it's not something to counter my point.
Zuko has 'no' (not much, but IMO he still is pretty affected at a few point during that scene) lust in his eyes because he passed his whole life with her, you really think Azula wouldn't think of pulling that one on Zuko before then ? Also he has a lot of stuff on his mind but he still respond to her game.
No, I'm not projecting, I'm observing. Show this scene to 1000 people and tell me most of it would see it as incest. Then you may have a point. Go watch the scene, there is no hint at all Zuko is lusting for his sister, you're all just making this up.
Not saying anything but since you brough up numbers, you seems to be the one in the minority here on if that scene has incest undertone or not.
It's not a big argument, it's a discussion and discussing the bedroom scene is just an extension of the previous discussion the OC in book 2 being unneccesary or not.
Well, I'm not surprised I'm in the minority here and I think neither are you. It's a forum full of pervs. I'm talking 1000 'standard' people, half of them women.
Half of ATLA's watcher aren't women to begin with and i included instagram, the most normie place you can ever find on the internet.
