Ren'Py Four Elements Trainer [v1.1.6b] [Mity]

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JoeBanks said:
I am never horribly late, maybe 10 days, like last release. Generally speaking, for me it's real life. I have a full time job in a very challenging field. Luckily, I have nice lulls that require nothing, so I can be full time on the game.

But if the dev has made more than a single release in a year, they aren't the worst!
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Ah, I never said you were late. I in fact said there's absolutely nothing wrong with you or your work ethic, man. As I said on your own game's page, all the issues that folks fault you for is from those before you. Those you work with, on the other hand... I'm sure you saw Khan's post the other day and I (among others) felt he was unnecessarily hostile.

And MITY is usually monthly or bi-monthly. He's often a bit late, but his coder is either having a breakdown or issues working and he told him to cool it for a while so people here are wigging because MITY's usually monthly or bi-monthly (that is to say every 2 months) has turned into three because of the coder's issues and then his forced vacation.

But yeah, that's my point: he's more frequent than more than a few devs on here, He's more frequent thank you, even. No offense intended. This ire is just so misplaced, there are so many devs that repeat "one more week, one more week, one more week, sorry sorry sorry almost done almost done almost done" for an entire 6 month stretch. MITY has gone over his normal timeframe, but he gave it to us straight: internal issues, delay due to coding mistakes, further delay while the coder recuperates. No "soon! next week! no, sorry, next week! sorry, week after!" MITY even took the time to do a Halloween release all on his own like he usually does. He drew it himself (because all the art is done it just needs coded in, so he had the time) then he coded it.
 
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Botoxman said:
I don't think Mity is lying

However, I almost suspect that the coder is lying

Why I think this goes back to an earlier Mity blog post

He said something along the lines of "I asked the coder to send me what he has finished in order for me to help with it" Then Mitty goes on to say that the coder didn't want to send anything over because of reasons"

This makes me think that the coder didn't have anything done and was just telling Mitty what he wanted to hear

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Honestly I've been thinking the same thing. There was a point before the coder took his vacation that mity said the update was a few days away. Now after the vacation it's not gonna be until the end of this month???? What happened to all the progress that the coder made before the vacation? It's almost like he's doing the whole update again from scratch. It just doesn't add up
 
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First of always remember, the coder is also the writer. So it'd not do with just a month delay to replace him, he might be irreplacible.

To his issue, if he really has a work-based depression breaking through I can attest from my own experience, that all his behaviour makes sense. Going on vacation to delay admitting his issue and to self-trick into thinking he's alright, not handing over code because yes, that'd show what a wreck he was and would be admission of incapability to work. All depressions are different, but if he has a type similiar to mine, then one core aspect is that you do not want to admit you're not productive and on top of your game anymore, because you don't want to seem, even less be a useless depressive pile (who does).

Now, I'm not saying doubts aren't in order, depressions can be easily used as an excuse too, as they're hard to prove from the outside. But his behaviour at least makes sense with the depressions.

I also don't think that laying into him here is necessarily a bad thing. It can force oneself to take a look in the mirror and decide if that's what one wants to be. A similiar thing helped me starting to get over it. Being supportive and understanding can be unintuitevly toxic however, as it can lull you into your sense of "Everything is fine, I don't need to change, depressions are bearable". So no matter what you say, you have equal chance of helping or not helping his mood, no way to tell.
 
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If there's so much depression and so much burnout and so much "all the diseases in the world that somehow, every single Patreon porn game dev falls victim off", they could just pause the Patreon until the problems are solved

That's the absolute only way i believe a Dev actually has some issue that will delay them ~ they come out and say "im gonna pause for this month until i solve X or Y thing which will delay me" (and yes, some devs have done that)

If they dont pause, then its all just bullshit to cash in some free months
 
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Ouryuken said:
If there's so much depression and so much burnout and so much "all the diseases in the world that somehow, every single Patreon porn game dev falls victim off", they could just pause the Patreon until the problems are solved

That's the absolute only way i believe a Dev actually has some issue that will delay them ~ they come out and say "im gonna pause for this month until i solve X or Y thing which will delay me" (and yes, some devs have done that)

If they dont pause, then its all just bullshit to cash in some free months
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The artist never stopped working, only the coder did take a break. If you have doubts, just stop supporting them and come back (or don't) if they manage to recover from this. There's no point discussing this further for me because we really don't know what's really going on. What I do know is, that the artist is working hard every day and in a very stressful situation right now.
 
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IdarksoulsI said:
The artist never stopped working, only the coder did take a break. If you have doubts, just stop supporting them and come back (or don't) if they manage to recover from this. There's no point discussing this further for me because we really don't know what's really going on. What I do know is, that the artist is working hard every day and in a very stressful situation right now.
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Its absolutely irrelevant if the artist racks up 5000 years worth of art because "he keeps working", because it will still be delayed by the coder, even if he recovers from the supposed "depression" ~

The "supposed" ammount of work will never ever be shown unless he starts publishing a shitload of pinups (which wouldnt require code, its just art) to fill the gap between code and "amassed art from the days that he kept working while the coder scratches his balls"

Anyone can say they "work hard every day" when nobody checks on them and dont need to show anything/prove anything ~
 
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Is the writing well regarded? I've found individual lines funny but no great sense of characterization in the actual talking to the girls part. I doubt people would notice if someone else started writing their own brand of irreverent dialogue. Maybe it's not fair to judge because I skip all the tedious dream sequences with the annoying snake and spirit characters. I did notice the writing was bad in book 2 in terms of continuity. Try playing the love route without romancing Mai, your character keeps forgetting he is romancing Azula and barely knows Mai.

Considering everyone who's looked says the code is badly written and the coder is apparently the idiot with the fetish for awful minigames I think the talented artist was being weighed down before the coder turned into a flaky albatross. I doubt the artist would replace the coder now, but I hope they pick someone else to work with on their next project.
 
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BastHouse said:
Is the writing well regarded? I've found individual lines funny but no great sense of characterization in the actual talking to the girls part. I doubt people would notice if someone else started writing their own brand of irreverent dialogue. Maybe it's not fair to judge because I skip all the tedious dream sequences with the annoying snake and spirit characters. I did notice the writing was bad in book 2 in terms of continuity. Try playing the love route without romancing Mai, your character keeps forgetting he is romancing Azula and barely knows Mai.

Considering everyone who's looked says the code is badly written and the coder is apparently the idiot with the fetish for awful minigames I think the talented artist was being weighed down before the coder turned into a flaky albatross. I doubt the artist would replace the coder now, but I hope they pick someone else to work with on their next project.
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Personaly i liked it, it could be improved but it's better in term of humour and characters than like 99% of what i'v seen for that kind of game.
 
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Balrog said:
Mity make good money for what he does so he already get rewarded for it, we are in no way obligated to be any more lax or nice than we would be for anyone else from that point on, if it was charity work it would be another story but it isn't.

People can be dubious of what happens and talk about the infos they got and their opinions on it, chill out and accept it.
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"MITY makes money so I'm allowed to be a complete asshole even though there's no justification to do so"

Reveals quite a lot about who you are as a person if you act like an utter twat to everyone who doesn't do what you want instantaneously.
 
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The halloween story is mostly (not entirely, tho) reused assets from other different books, with like, 5mins of dialogue

Its seems long because Shady limits your skull game to 1 per day, if there wasnt a limit or if you cheat the money (or sell your soul), you realize you can finish it extremely fast
 
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JoeBanks said:
I am never horribly late, maybe 10 days, like last release. Generally speaking, for me it's real life. I have a full time job in a very challenging field. Luckily, I have nice lulls that require nothing, so I can be full time on the game.

But if the dev has made more than a single release in a year, they aren't the worst!
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Wait is this a crossover episode. The dev of one of my favorite games commenting on the game thread of the game that introduced me to this games.
 
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Wanted to try the game, immediately got an error during the intro, when the world map is shown:

Code: 
I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 519, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
Exception: Screen worldmap is not known.


-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
  File "script.rpyc", line 1645, in script
  File "*Path*\renpy\ast.py", line 1828, in execute
    self.call("execute")
  File "*Path*\renpy\ast.py", line 1816, in call
    return renpy.statements.call(method, parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "*Path*\renpy\statements.py", line 177, in call
    return method(parsed, *args, **kwargs)
  File "renpy/common/000statements.rpy", line 519, in execute_call_screen
    store._return = renpy.call_screen(name, *args, **kwargs)
  File "*Path*\renpy\exports.py", line 2705, in call_screen
    show_screen(_screen_name, _transient=True, *args, **kwargs)
  File "*Path*\renpy\display\screen.py", line 1068, in show_screen
    raise Exception("Screen %s is not known.\n" % (name[0],))
Exception: Screen worldmap is not known.


Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.0.0.196
Anyone had this problem before? Couldn't find it using the search.
 
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