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I am curiuos where the story goes, like it very much upto now.

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Attached is a full incest patch for the game. Also modded to allow you to choose your sister's name and fixed a few typos from the last update.

To install, extract and put in \game folder overwriting any existing files.

Starting a new game it will ask you to set your sister's name automatically.

From a save, it will default to the name "Sister". To change:
  1. Use unren to enable the console (Unren and instructions here: ).
  2. Open the console using Shift + O and type the following, replacing "whatever" with the name you want but LEAVE THE QUOTES
    Code:
     sis_name = "whatever"
  3. Hit Enter and then ESC to exit the console
  4. Profit!
I appreciate your work.
 
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Siddington

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But the point is that, up to now, Alice is NOT a love interest for the MC.
I get where you're coming from I really do but I've always gone from the players perspective rather than the MCs. The MCs in these games are often clueless horny losers who couldn't see a romantic sign if it was literally tattooed onto a girls forehead. The fact that it apparently took seeing Alice with someone else to make him realise he wanted to have sex with her, even after all the flirting and groping that has happened in previous updates, just proves it in my opinion. We play these games with mostly one goal in mind, because we think a certain girl is hot and we want to get it on with her pronto. So from that perspective, if said girl starts sleeping with another person, male or female, with no way to stop it, it's going to generate that jealousy thus NTR. Obviously this is subjective and it clearly doesn't bother you in the slightest. Fair enough
 
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I get where you're coming from I really do but I've always gone from the players perspective rather than the MCs. The MCs in these games are often clueless horny losers who couldn't see a romantic sign if it was literally tattooed onto a girls forehead. The fact that it apparently took seeing Alice with someone else to make him realise he wanted to have sex with her, even after all the flirting and groping that has happened in previous updates, just proves it in my opinion. We play these games with mostly one goal in mind, because we think a certain girl is hot and we want to get it on with her pronto. So from that perspective, if said girl starts sleeping with another person, male or female, with no way to stop it, it's going to generate that jealousy thus NTR. Obviously this is subjective and it clearly doesn't bother you in the slightest. Fair enough
Exactly, or does anyone think that all the people raging about NTR do so because they think the MC from their game is treated so badly and they feel sorry for their pixelated friend?
 

rick87

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Not forgetting there are at least 2 potential routes - Passive and perverse. You want to be a spectator and/or submissive go passive, to participate and/or dominant go perverse or mix it up....the dev has the points can that use them to effect.
the scene in the bathroom with Leah has the same outcome no matter if you go the pacifist or pervert route, that was the biggest mistake made by the dev in the last version, he should have had 2 different reactions by the MC according with the personality the the player creates with his choices.
 

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Attached is a full incest patch for the game. Also modded to allow you to choose your sister's name and fixed a few typos from the last update.

To install, extract and put in \game folder overwriting any existing files.

Starting a new game it will ask you to set your sister's name automatically.

From a save, it will default to the name "Sister". To change:
  1. Use unren to enable the console (Unren and instructions here: ).
  2. Open the console using Shift + O and type the following, replacing "whatever" with the name you want but LEAVE THE QUOTES
    Code:
     sis_name = "whatever"
  3. Hit Enter and then ESC to exit the console
  4. Profit!
Mind if I attach it to my Patreon page?
 
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Ares02

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(sorry for the wall-of-text, just can't get my point with less than this)
I get where you're coming from I really do but I've always gone from the players perspective rather than the MCs. The MCs in these games are often clueless horny losers who couldn't see a romantic sign if it was literally tattooed onto a girls forehead. The fact that it apparently took seeing Alice with someone else to make him realise he wanted to have sex with her, even after all the flirting and groping that has happened in previous updates, just proves it in my opinion.
I get that,
but if you look at it from another point ov view, every (EVERY) female named character in this game is designed to appease some romantic interest...
for the player, mostly, because the MC seems to be concerned only in ways of having his prick strocked (a healty and natural concern, btw)
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but this would step in harem territory.
The major point in this is that every character but Alice seemed to be some kind of a slut from the get-go (well, Alice gives that kind of vibe too, if you account the fact she goes to school and around town with those clothes), so I can well see why someone can feel a letdown the fact she too likes to get around.
And, I would like to add that Alice is a natural-born teaser and skirts around every time things start to get serious. And while the MC is clueless about that, I can see it, thus I can't really get on the romantic mindset.
Not for now, at least.

We play these games with mostly one goal in mind, because we think a certain girl is hot and we want to get it on with her pronto. So from that perspective, if said girl starts sleeping with another person, male or female, with no way to stop it, it's going to generate that jealousy thus NTR. Obviously this is subjective and it clearly doesn't bother you in the slightest. Fair enough
Well, it's not really that it doesn't bother me, mostly I don't get really concerned when there's not some kind of agreement (even informal of given in the spur of the moment) on the fact that a relation exist at all. Free and unconcerned sex is kind of nice, from time to time or as a starting point for a relation (and I like seeing it in games, too).
Mostly, my reasonment is, is this a case where the MC (or "me" as the MC) should get jealous over Alice having a cunny conversation (ah-ah) while he is having an affair with the HT and being more than flirty with the SC.
I haven't got the feeling there was a real "relation", so I can't really get on this whole jealousy train.
Unless you count as jeoulosy the "oh, damn, I (MC) should've boned her too" moment... in that case, yes
but that's probably more envy than anything else.
 

Siddington

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I get that,
but if you look at it from another point ov view, every (EVERY) female named character in this game is designed to appease some romantic interest...
for the player, mostly, because the MC seems to be concerned only in ways of having his prick strocked (a healty and natural concern, btw)
This literally describes every VN porn game ever.

The major point in this is that every character but Alice seemed to be some kind of a slut from the get-go (well, Alice gives that kind of vibe too, if you account the fact she goes to school and around town with those clothes), so I can well see why someone can feel a letdown the fact she too likes to get around.
I think this is the point a few people have been trying to make. Alice has now become just another slut in a game full of sluts. I think any hope for a proper romance with her went out the window with the way this last update was handled. Her words to the MC seem shallow now. In the Melody and Susan routes you can make choices to influence the content you see but with Alice, all player agency was taken away because "everyone loves lesbians right? this is plot". You're forced into it whether you as the player wanted to or not.

Well, it's not really that it doesn't bother me, mostly I don't get really concerned...
Again this is mostly your feelings on it and that is fine. Not everyone will experience the same feelings or emotions playing a game, be it a porn game or a FPS. I shortened your quote to avoid the "wall of text" as much as I could but referring to your "free and unconcerned sex" statement. I think most people who play these games would prefer if the player/MC was the person involved in this sex. You'd think it would be blindingly obvious really.
 

Penfold Mole

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@V.A. Laurie
I personally like your game from the beginning and I like where it's going. Just do your thing and follow the story that you have planned, because pretty much every game that has succumbed to the pressure of any bitchy and loud patreons (or forum members here) who aren't happy about something in it, has gone to shit and often eventually abandoned by the dev. And I wouldn't blame those devs for it one bit, because I would do the same - I would lose an interest to write a story that I'm forced to write and nothing good would come out of it.
Stick to your guns and be the real alpha here. Take a stand. Your game isn't finished and it's way to early to bitch about things that have happened so far without knowing what happens next.

I like Leah, she is a much deeper character than some people here are able to realize. She's been bitchy, but that is obviously just a facade, the way she is protecting herself.
From the very beginning she is the only one who's been acting like an actual sister. She took the MC under her wing and has been trying to protect him. She's been talking and acting tough and bitchy, but that is actually how sisters do most of the time. It doesn't mean that she is your enemy or some major competitor about the important stuff. I bet that she'll fight for the MC tooth and nail, should anyone (e.g the "bad teacher" or anyone else) dare to seriously threaten him. Competing for the sink to brush teeth or for the shower is what happens between brothers and sisters. If she pushes you away from the sink and kicks you out of the shower or doesn't give you a blowjob or let you watch her having sex as a thanks for a favor doesn't make her an enemy.
The guys complaining here about her don't seem to know what it means to have a sister. A real one. Every female has to be their bitch, or they feel like they've been castrated. IMHO, a sign of growing up as a single male child, always protected by the parents, a boy who never had to learn to share (a sink with his sister) or to lose a board or a card game and still be a man about it.
 

Siddington

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The guys complaining here about her don't seem to know what it means to have as sister. A real one. Every female has to be their bitch, or they feel like they've been castrated. IMHO, a sign of growing up as a single male child, always protected by the parents, a boy who never had to learn to share (a sink with your sister) or to lose a board or a card game and still be a man about it.
I personally think you should stay away from broad ranging borderline insulting comments about people you know next to nothing about. I actually have a very healthy relationship with my sister who was in my room no less that 20 minutes ago to borrow my headset to play Fortnite.

As for the rest of the statement, you're correct. I do feel like Leahs story could be a very interesting one to tell. I'm not certain I would have liked it but who knows. That being said it doesn't stop people from being allowed to voice when they disagree with something and your belittling comments about people who do so aren't fair to anyone. I don't think anyone here reasonably expects the developer to change what has come before and but that will obviously leave some people disappointed with it. It's the fact that we have no choice that annoys people so much.

Stick to your guns and be the real alpha here. Take a stand.
Of course you would say that as you've clearly stated that you love that game as is. I wonder whether you'd feel the same if you were on the other side of the fence.
 

elmandor

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I personally think you should stay away from broad ranging borderline insulting comments about people you know next to nothing about. I actually have a very healthy relationship with my sister who was in my room no less that 20 minutes ago to borrow my headset to play Fortnite.

As for the rest of the statement, you're correct. I do feel like Leahs story could be a very interesting one to tell. I'm not certain I would have liked it but who knows. That being said it doesn't stop people from being allowed to voice when they disagree with something and your belittling comments about people who do so aren't fair to anyone. I don't think anyone here reasonably expects the developer to change what has come before and but that will obviously leave some people disappointed with it. It's the fact that we have no choice that annoys people so much.



Of course you would say that as you've clearly stated that you love that game as is. I wonder whether you'd feel the same if you were on the other side of the fence.
I suggest you to stay away from him.Ignore button is useful for it. Guy is a serial insulter. I saw crybabies, babies , kiddies even one case brainless. If this was a normal forum he sould've ban like 10 times. Just because he has a shity fetish thinking himself smarter then most.
 

V.A. Laurie

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well shit i have no problem with ntr if it was optional damn i hope the next update will be better this was one of my fav game :cryingface:
It's not NTR. I've said it before and in saying it again; anyone claiming ntr is wrong because you don't know what is going to happen.

I love all of this feedback though, every one who has played the game to check it out is awesome.
 
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