VN Ren'Py Completed Freeloading Family [v0.32] [FFCreations]

[pystudios]

And I just stated you can't rationalize it with a partial view of history.
That said, the whole "dutch NTR" thing was a sort of pun, click the link and apply some googletranslate.

I do not care to lookup anything on the subject of NTR just as I would not care to lookup anything on the subject of homosexuality so I have no time to explore links to such nonsense.

 

[JenusKudo]

I agree with you. I was really into this story till this update. MC should have taken Leah into the bathroom and told her. 'Listen here, you want to keep having your little fling with Alice, you had better start treating me kinder. Lose the bitch has a stick up her cunt attitude, at least with me. I only have to make one call and the two of you are finished. You think her mother would allow her to continue living here with you? Think again."
At least something to that affect. I mean here the MC is being so kind as to let them be together in the house and not cause problems that he could for them and she treats him like a gimp. There at least should be the option for this. I know there are people out there who actually enjoy being treating like shit and good for them but I am not one. If this type of writing is what is to be expected in the future updates, then I will not be playing it for sure.

I am not paying for this shit anymore.

I get where you're coming from I really do but I've always gone from the players perspective rather than the MCs. The MCs in these games are often clueless horny losers who couldn't see a romantic sign if it was literally tattooed onto a girls forehead. The fact that it apparently took seeing Alice with someone else to make him realise he wanted to have sex with her, even after all the flirting and groping that has happened in previous updates, just proves it in my opinion. We play these games with mostly one goal in mind, because we think a certain girl is hot and we want to get it on with her pronto. So from that perspective, if said girl starts sleeping with another person, male or female, with no way to stop it, it's going to generate that jealousy thus NTR. Obviously this is subjective and it clearly doesn't bother you in the slightest. Fair enough

And if your love interest is sleeping with someone you are not comfortable with then it stings much more.

 

[Siddington]

On Alice I'd just like to point out that most of this was already in place in the previous update

I agree it was you're right. It was fairly obviously at the end of day 4 imo and when the MC came home late to find Alice had taken an extra shower for some reason. At that point though as much as it didn't sit well with me you always assumed the MC would be able to do something about it before you were shown it explicitly on screen. Obviously this turned out not to be the case and that is what has caused so much frustration

But seriously speaking, I think the story is written to just suggest that the opinion on Alice may pass from "lust object" to "romantic interest" and all is building toward that.

This I will disagree with this though as for me at least she started as a lust object. She's sweet, funny and fucking stunning. It would be next to impossible to ignore that, step-brother or not. She was the reason I tried this game in the first place. After that she grew into a romantic interest due to what seemed like genuine care for the MC, wanting to spend time with him more than anything and finally her obvious desire for something more with the MC. Now though unfortunately she has been made to look a slutty selfish bitch who you may or may not put out sexually for her step-brother because she's horny and to keep him sweet. She was the only truly likeable character in the game up to this point. The others are a sexy slut, a good looking lesbian bitch and a hot manipulative teacher. Now I find their content interesting and will probably enjoy as they are written quite fun but I was hoping Alice was going to be different. Obviously we will find out more in the next update but as far as I am concerned, the damage has been done...and a it's damn shame.

 

[JenusKudo]

I'm still remain as patreon and keeping my pledge but I have to say ending was disappointing.

Same here. But if this kind of material still continue to raise head in the upcoming updates i will stop my pledge. It's just that I am not comfortable with this kind of material.

 

[JenusKudo]

I agree it was you're right. It was fairly obviously at the end of day 4 imo and when the MC came home late to find Alice had taken an extra shower for some reason. At that point though as much as it didn't sit well with me you always assumed the MC would be able to do something about it before you were shown it explicitly on screen. Obviously this turned out not to be the case and that is what has caused so much frustration



This I will disagree with this though as for me at least she started as a lust object. She's sweet, funny and fucking stunning. It would be next to impossible to ignore that, step-brother or not. She was the reason I tried this game in the first place. After that she grew into a romantic interest due to what seemed like genuine care for the MC, wanting to spend time with him more than anything and finally her obvious desire for something more with the MC. Now though unfortunately she has been made to look a slutty selfish bitch who you may or may not put out sexually for her step-brother because she's horny and to keep him sweet. She was the only truly likeable character in the game up to this point. The others are a sexy slut, a good looking lesbian bitch and a hot manipulative teacher. Now I find their content interesting and will probably enjoy as they are written quite fun but I was hoping Alice was going to be different. Obviously we will find out more in the next update but as far as I am concerned, the damage has been done...and a it's damn shame.

I think she was trying to manipulate mc. By showing fake caring and tease, so she could ask a favor with which mc won't be able to refuse.

 

[Siddington]

I think she was trying to manipulate mc. By showing fake caring and tease, so she could ask a favor with which mc won't be able to refuse.

It's hard not to feel that way with how the last update ended. As I've said before, I'm sure she'll be immensely grateful on day 6 but whatever happens now it will just feel like we are banging another slut. Great, a million porn games haven't done that before. Was hoping for more from Alice tbh. We already have Melody and Susan for that.

 

[JenusKudo]

Sadly, any link from a Patreon page to this site is almost certainly a one-way ticket to a suspended Patreon account.

To be clear, I claim no rights on the patch I posted. Anyone can use it in any way for any reason, but would hate to see a game I've really enjoyed so far be put in peril (melodrama?) over my silliness.

Just a suggestion........ just like Alice, MC should bring some bitches home and fuck them in front of her.

 

[JenusKudo]

It's hard not to feel that way with how the last update ended. As I've said before, I'm sure she'll be immensely grateful on day 6 but whatever happens now it will just feel like we are banging another slut. Great, a million porn games haven't done that before. Was hoping for more from Alice tbh. We already have Melody and Susan for that.

Yeah.. we already have too many sluts. The game lacks innocent girls that we can love. There was one, but we latter discovered that we were wrong. :FeelsBadMan:

 

[Siddington]

Just a suggestion........ just like Alice, MC should bring some bitches home and fuck them in front of her.

It's a possibility. Making her jealous could be used to move things forward but I'm not certain she'd care too much unless her muff diving friend was suddenly out of the picture and she didn't get any release.

Spoiler: My theory

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Again though I'm not sure any of this redeems Alice or makes her look like less of a using slut.

 

[User_32285]

I'm just going to say that you probably are judjing the whole Holland based on a very partial view of recent history. It's a country one quarter the size of the Florida that for 4 centuries fought nails and teeth for indipendence between two imperial giants (France and the German Empire), then managing to create the third colonial empire of the XIX century.
Whatever you may think, they're not losers that simply waved a white flag from indipendence 'till now. But if you think that a nation willing to flood half of his territory instead of leaving it to invasors is the definition of "turning a cheek" suit yourself.

(I'm not even remotely Dutch, by the way)

Dont forget the Spanish btw. the 80 year war for independance. And "we" had a dutch king on the english throne.

Sadly WW1 was a lowpoint for the dutch as "we" stayed neutral and even allowed Germany access to invade Belgium.

WWII Netherlands was split up (much like France).

Sorry for boring history lesson

 

[JenusKudo]

It's a possibility. Making her jealous could be used to move things forward but I'm not certain she'd care too much unless her muff diving friend was suddenly out of the picture and she didn't get any release.

Spoiler: My theory

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Again though I'm not sure any of this redeems Alice or makes her look like less of a using slut.

I agree with you. I can't think of her as a love interest anymore. If it were up to me,i would have ruined there fun with the help of mom and ignore them rest of my life. Other sluts are way better compare to these two.

 

[User_32285]

I'm sorry if my post was perceived as "mocking" that was not my intent. Also we do listen to practically everything written here and take it into account when discussing where the story should go. I appreciate all the criticism and I'm listening to it.

In the end this is your and your teams "baby" and you all create the story.

I hated the GoT writers after the red wedding episode, but it was great for the story, struggle and negative emotions are part of epic stories imo.

 

[rodneyeatme]

In the end this is your and your teams "baby" and you all create the story.

I hated the GoT writers after the red wedding episode, but it was great for the story, struggle and negative emotions are part of epic stories imo.

So, instead of a wolf's head mounted on Rob Stark, we get a dyke's head mounted on Alice's crotch?

 

[BloodyRelight]

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In the incest genre no one cares about the definition of NTR or any of it's relatives we just don't want it in our games.[/QUOTE]
well said for some reason it feels way worse in incest game like the betrayal is even more devastating because they are family.

 

[pystudios]

In the incest genre no one cares about the definition of NTR or any of it's relatives we just don't want it in our games.

well said for some reason it feels way worse in incest game like the betrayal is even more devastating because they are family.[/QUOTE]
Especially in incest games but I don't want to see that crap anywhere whatever it's called. Yeah like we give a crap about semantics, I don't care if fucking a dog is bestiality while having a dog licking your dick is only some other term that I'm not going to look up as I don't want to see either fucking one and if I use the wrong word then fucking sue me but don't try and educate me on something I really don't want to know anything about!

 

[Carmen Sandiego]

Haven't tried the update but I'm glad to know the dev is so anti NTR.

 

[pystudios]

Haven't tried the update but I'm glad to know the dev is so anti NTR.

This update has NTR in it.

 

[rodneyeatme]

So, yeah, I finally played the update.

The cheerful narration while MC is being cucked made me want to dump motor oil in a duck pond. What the fucking hell? Banished by two bitches and he's telling me how happy he is about the changes in his life while he reaches down for a wank? There should have been a teddy bear wearing a "Proud Cuck" t-shirt on that bed.

Brutal.

 

[Ryahn]

Unless it can be proven otherwise, NTR tag is added.

 

[JenusKudo]

Haven't tried the update but I'm glad to know the dev is so anti NTR.

I hope you are being sarcastic.