VN Ren'Py FreshWomen [S2 Ep.3 Part 2] [OppaiMan]

[ashitanojoe]

I am mixed. Just annoys me when some one says I am black. Because ti discounts half of my heritage and half of me. If the skin is caramel-esque in colour or the face structure is more akin to a white person than a black person then odds are they are mixed race. But in the USA, for some reason, if you have any black ancestors that automatically makes you black, too? Its weird.

Ok, I get it now, it's something personal and also has a lot to do with the country where you are linving in. But it's a matter of perspective at the end. I'm mixed myself, my father is a blue eyes, blonde and caucasian man and my mother has dark hair and eyes and 'latino' color skin. I'm a man with honey/green eyes, dark hair and blonde beard, with 'latino' skin as a result, very atypical and exotic LOL. I don't expect that somebody guesses that my father is a blonde caucasian and I don't have a problem with that. Depending of the region and the amount of tan, I am considered a white person or a 'trigueño' one (I don't know the english term for that, if there's any, they use 'latino' I think), some people even say that I am actually yellow LOL. The people don't have to know my heritage.

In Latin America, according to my experience, we call a woman like Halle Berry a black woman too, independently of her white mother. So, I would not say that is different than USA in that categorization.

 

[ashitanojoe]

Now that you are mentioning it, this conversation reminds me a Seinfeld's episode.


Although no one in Latin America would call a white guy like that black, in contrast to USA.

 

[Orgitas]

if you live in africa you're seen as white, if you live in west you're black, getting annoyed because of it is stupid.

But I am neither yet I am both. Regardless, fortunately, people don't assume I am black in the UK. Most of the time they get it correct right off of the bat.

 

[Deleted member 5739294]

Brazil is a really mixed country with really mixed cultures and ethnicities.
Look at this:

She's brazilian.

She's also brazilian:

She's brazilian too

And also her:


So there is no point at requiring the dev to craft a latina or mulata bc of his nationality, this is just a stereotype.
He only needs to make beautiful models, and he is up to that.

 

[Aristos]

But in the USA, for some reason, if you have any black ancestors that automatically makes you black, too? Its weird.

There's a reason for that, but I can't explain it or my post will be deleted (again).

 

[Aristos]

Brazil is a really mixed country with really mixed cultures and ethnicities.
Look at this:

She's brazilian.
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She's also brazilian:
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She's brazilian too
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And also her:
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So there is no point at requiring the dev to craft a latina or mulata bc of his nationality, this is just a stereotype.
He only needs to make beautiful models, and he is up to that.

Since you are directly addressing this message to me without quoting me, what stereotype are you talking about? You are acknowledging yourself that an important part of the Brazilian population is black or mixed race.
If the devs were Russian, where black people are extremely rare, it wouldn't make any sense to allude to their nationality to ask for black models because they'd not be used to interacting with black people in their everyday lives. But since these devs are Brazilian, it makes a lot of sense to say that out of a dozen females at least ONE could have been black or mixed race.
But again, it all comes down to money for this team. If they thought a black LI would be popular, they would undoubtedly create one.

PS: Wow... I've checked different webs just now and it turns out that more than 50% of the Brazilian population is currently identified as African Brazilian, whether black or mixed race. It has the biggest population of African descent in the whole American continent, bigger than the USA.

 

[Deleted member 5739294]

50% of the Brazilian population is currently identified as African Brazilian

Yeah, but in regards of visual reference, there are not too much black people in Brazil.

At least 45% of Brazilian population identifies themselves as "pardos", it englobes a lot of mixed people:
Mulatos (white + black).
Caboclos (white + indigenous)
Cafuzos (black + indigenous)
Hafu (japanese ancestry, usually japanese + white)

In comparison, only 10,6% of Brazilian people identifies as pure black, or simply black/brown people.

 

[Deleted member 5739294]

black or mixed race.

Also, from the women i've posted, only Marina Ruy Barbosa isn't mixed at all.
I'm meaning that to be mixed race you don't need to simply look like a latina or a mulato.
This one is an example of a "cabocla":
She really looks like the new character that was introduced in the last chapter, the girl with glasses idk her name.

 

[Aristos]

That's fake news, pure nonsense.
At least 45% of Brazilian population identifies themselves as "pardos", it englobes a lot of mixed people:
Mulatos (white + black).
Caboclos (white + indigenous)
Cafuzos (black + indigenous)
Hafu (japanese ancestry, usually japanese + white)

In comparison, only 10,6% of Brazilian people identifies as pure black, or simple black/brown people.

If you say that's fake, I must believe you. To be honest, it struck me as strange that such a high percentage of the population was of African descent because I never noticed that enormous majority.

Here are some examples of the many articles I found claiming blacks were over 50%.

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However, we must also take into account that around 10% are pure black, but among those who consider themselves pardos the mulatos are very numerous too. The black or mixed race population of African heritage in Brazil seems to be definitely bigger than in the USA both in percentage and in total numbers.

 

[Aristos]

Also, from the women i've posted, only Marina Ruy Barbosa isn't mixed at all.
I'm meaning that to be mixed race you don't need to simply look like a latina or a mulato.
This one is an example of a "cabocla":
She really looks like the new character that was introduced in the last chapter, the girl with glasses idk her name.
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This will be my favourite Brazilian girl ever, no matter what
Those afternoons in my childhood; my parents could see their little son was 100% straight.

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[Deleted member 5739294]

This will be my favourite Brazilian girl ever, no matter what
Those afternoons in my childhood; my parents could see their little son was 100% straight.

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Xuxa is such a princess, i must agree with you.
In the 80s she looked like an angel!
Those pics i'm attaching is from a polemic movie she made in that time, the name is "Love strange love".
She kinda look like the angel from FreshWomen, the one from the pub.

 

[Deleted member 6385753]

This is a great game! The renders and animations are superb. The story is very engaging. Apparently Julia is the fan favorite but I'm partial to Susan! And Lily. I would ask that you make the Gallery scenes permanently unlocked because I lose access if I reload to choose alternate paths. Other than that, I love it!

 

[Son of Durin]

I still thinks that she looks more black than hispanic, for example. Independently of nationalities, her skin colour is black in universal terms.

Salma Hayek has an average hispanic's color tone and Halle Berry is a black woman. The girl's skin color looks more like Halle Berry than Salma Hayek. Although her niples should be black, right?

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Honestly, she reminds me of Yasmine Bleeth, one of the 90's Baywatch babes. Her tone was similar to that when she was tan. She's of predominantly European Ancestry (aka, white - German/Russian of Jewish descent, mother was French/Pied-Noir).

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[ashitanojoe]

I think the ambiguity comes from she having a dark skin but with white facial features, blue eyes and straight hair. In conclussion, she could be a mixed race woman, from a white parent and a black one. Something like Halle Berry, Zendaya or Alicia Keys. If you put her an afro and darker eyes, everybody would say that she is black. But with straight hair she looks 'latina'. Here a comparison with Alicia keys.

Maybe the idea of them is a tanned girl, not a black one or mixed, but they put the skin too dark in that case.

She could be acussed of 'blackfishing' like this girl. LOL

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[Deleted member 6385753]

Sue looks "different" in Blender.

 

[snakeplisskin]

Sue looks "different" in Blender.

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Not liking that at all

 

[Raziel_8]

Not liking that at all

Yeah, she looks way worse than before.

 

[Deleted member 6385753]

Don't know much about tech stuff but I guess It is hard to transfer models from Daz Studio to Blender.

 

[Orgitas]

Don't know much about tech stuff but I guess It is hard to transfer models from Daz Studio to Blender.

not really. There is a bridge an unofficial one and one you can download on Daz's site. But the Unofficial one is, generally, better for the human models. Some times the nodes need tweaking but half the time you can just import and go. Almost all of my own renders are from Blender as I have an AMD card and Daz. Well.. Not AMD friendly at all. I can render something in Blender that takes 15 minutes. But the same scene in Daz will take over an hour. Plus if you know what you are doing the composition, and lighting, in Blender is light years ahead.

 

[KanyeT]

Sue looks "different" in Blender.

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I think we can expect all the girls to differ slightly between the old Daz and the new Blender. They have been making minor adjustments here and there while adapting the new render engine.