I can promise you, the way I play the game is objectively immoral.
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Stonethrower
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But you make that informed choice (seeing as you recognize it as immoral) to play the game as suchI can promise you, the way I play the game is objectively immoral.
To a degree, that's true. But someone was trying to say that everyone knows good from evil and right from wrong, which is just silly. Using a historical example I pose a question, is preemptive self-defense right or wrong? Moral or immoral? That's a question that defies time, and shows that morality is not a simple binary answer.
NewTricks
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We need an off-topic thread for all these a priori assumptions and moral relativism debates. I'm eager to see what happens when we begin debating deontology versus consequentialism. They are fascinating to read, and it would be a shame to see them all deleted the next time the mod goes on a cleanup spree.
Either that... Or our/mine ethics have not evolved until the point where what I'm doing is considered as suchBut you make that informed choice (seeing as you recognize it as immoral) to play the game as such
Nah bro, just let us have some fun with it
armond
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Evil begets evil, it doesn't change the universal nature of right and wrong.
Ciaran8023
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Wut?
Right and wrong are social constructs, there's nothing universal about them, they're malleable and have changed numerous times over the course of history.
Stonethrower
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I agree with you!
No use trying to enlighten someone with such a limited view on morals.
I've actually tried that irl
it gets you nowhere
armond
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IronicI agree with you!
No use trying to enlighten someone with such a limited view on morals.
I've actually tried that irl
Danny Jay
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Man, I'm new to the game and accidentally played the remake of CH1 before the actual game. And once i realized my mistake and started playing the actual finished parts of the game including the original CH1, I wish I never played the remake. It looks so much better and the story flows way better. Now, I'm conflicted on whether or now I want to play the game as is or wait until more remake chapters are released.
Edit: I now see why there's a mod that removes Nicki from the game lmao
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You won’t need to wait long. The other chapters will not be remade, there will just be some additional renders and maybe some text changes to improve consistency. The rest of the chapters will be incorporated into the remake by the end of this month, and Chapter 11 will be released in July or August.
Danny Jay
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I think you're right about a lot of people. But there are many who genuinely don't 'know' right from wrong in the same sense that you or me do; they are only capable of knowing what society at large deems right or wrong, and maybe they can logically understand it, but they'll never truly understand it like the rest of us do, in our guts. So their 'struggle' becomes: do I listen to society, or do I do whatever the fuck I want. I think these kinds of people, 100%, would do whatever they wanted if they were convinced they could get away with it. Compare that to normal people, where even if you or I knew we would get away with something bad, we wouldn't do it because of our own strong personal moral compass, and because it would make us feel really, really terrible, even if a part of us wanted to do it.
I don't think good and evil are necessarily the same as right and wrong. Personally, I believe in objective morality (I know, I know, it's a hard argument to make). Basically, the idea is that there are behaviors that will universally be good for everyone in certain situations, or at worst will be neutral (i.e., doesn't affect them), and behaviors that will universally be bad for everyone in certain situations, and then everything in between; but, the problem is that morality can be like any other form of knowledge, it's learned through trial and error, study, rigorous thought, and so on. Not all people or societies have the correct moral knowledge, maybe none do to this day, and it's certainly continuing to develop as we speak; but some are definitely ahead of others. This is not an argument for superiority or inferiority or anything like that, btw; purely about knowledge. So, just as a society might be ignorant about germ theory and be mistaken on hygiene without being inherently unclean or inferior, a society could be ignorant and mistaken about what is morally good without being inherently evil or inferior; and vice versa.
Aside from that, it's possible for a normal person to be raised to view something abhorrently evil as justified and morally good (or vice versa); but I would argue that deep down, that person knows what they're doing is wrong, they've just been indoctrinated or traumatized into ignoring and betraying it. The warrior going in to raid a village and rape their women learned that behavior or justified it after the fact, but unless they're some kind of psychopath, I would argue they know and feel that it is wrong, just as every innocent, uncorrupted child would; they merely suppress it, similar to how someone supresses their instincts for self-preservation in certain situations for whatever reason, but the instinct is still there.
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