VN Ren'Py Friends in Need [Ch.1 Remake v0.25] [NeonGhosts]

[Pixillin']

Yeah i see characters get shit on all the time because they're flawed and I don't get it. If one person is shown to do 90% good things, why would you hate them for the 10%? No one in the world has a completely clear slate with no regrets so why would you expect characters too?

I could be wrong but it seemed like it was mostly dark path enthusiasts who were using her (perceived) fuck up as a justification to abuse her (and then go on a spree.)

 

[mike12013]

I could be wrong but it seemed like it was mostly dark path enthusiasts who were using her (perceived) fuck up as a justification to abuse her (and then go on a spree.)

But surely her being more whole wholesome and whatever, works as a better justification

Currently it's one person who we're told is a close friend, "wrongs" guy so he does the things he does

Going forward, it's one person who were shown to be nice, and caring and a real close friend, "wrongs" him. The gymnastics that he'd have to do to reach that conclusion would better convey how fucked he is mentally.

To me anyway. Plus the remake adds an option to show how we he feels about women anyway, so if he's already negative about them, then it fits even better into the justification

 

[Pixillin']

But surely her being more whole wholesome and whatever, works as a better justification

Currently it's one person who we're told is a close friend, "wrongs" guy so he does the things he does

Going forward, it's one person who were shown to be nice, and caring and a real close friend, "wrongs" him. The gymnastics that he'd have to do to reach that conclusion would better convey how fucked he is mentally.

To me anyway. Plus the remake adds an option to show how we he feels about women anyway, so if he's already negative about them, then it fits even better into the justification

IDK that's just what the complaints seemed to be about. I only have the one save and it's a Nikki solo path, so I can't really explain.

 

[Jgriz04]

I could be wrong but it seemed like it was mostly dark path enthusiasts who were using her (perceived) fuck up as a justification to abuse her (and then go on a spree.)

I’ve never understood the need to justify Guy’s actions on the dark path. To me, this character has always been like this but only through his recent acquisition of wealth is he in a position to act on it.

 

[mike12013]

IDK that's just what the complaints seemed to be about. I only have the one save and it's a Nikki solo path, so I can't really explain.

Yeah that's fair. I had a solo path for each girl that's good Guy, but i don't think it's really gonna matter in the grand scheme of things, so i'll likely just have a Good save, corruption save and full dark save

 

[Dessolos]

I’ve never understood the need to justify Guy’s actions on the dark path. To me, this character has always been like this but only through his recent acquisition of wealth is he in a position to act on it.

that's why I hated the old dark path in chapter 1 on the Nicki path even tho im not a dark path enjoyer I did check out the content once. I hate it when there is any kind of justification for doing dark things like rape. I rather that dark characters just owns they are a dark / evil piece of shit and not try to justify their actions

 

[mike12013]

I’ve never understood the need to justify Guy’s actions on the dark path. To me, this character has always been like this but only through his recent acquisition of wealth is he in a position to act on it.

I just never saw the need for justification, outside of liking some anime and getting lucky on crypto, Guy is basically a blank slate. Use whatever justification fits. If someone enjoys that content, that's good enough justification

 

[ffive]

I’ve never understood the need to justify Guy’s actions on the dark path. To me, this character has always been like this but only through his recent acquisition of wealth is he in a position to act on it.

Even if a character is "always like this" there're some actual things which trigger them to leash out at a certain person and not any of literally hundreds of others they meet every day in all kinds of situations. For some players the situation with Nicki was this sort of a trigger for their version of Guy.

"Guy got rich" didn't cause him to spend that month raping random people left and right. Even though by this logic this was all that supposedly took.

 

[NeegNog]

I could be wrong but it seemed like it was mostly dark path enthusiasts who were using her (perceived) fuck up as a justification to abuse her (and then go on a spree.)

i dont really care about a justification to do stuff tbh , its just that peaple dont like remakes of unfinished games

 

[armond]

I’ve never understood the need to justify Guy’s actions on the dark path. To me, this character has always been like this but only through his recent acquisition of wealth is he in a position to act on it.

Rapist generally aren't pragmatic or machiavellian. Criminals they try to hide their crimes but they don't sit there dreaming of all the crimes they could get away with if only they had money, they steal money to finance their crimes and intimidate victims or just murder them. Morality is something they abandon, it's why you lot winning about justification is so asinine. The character writing for guy was better before the retcon.

 

[PHIL101-YYouPPHard]

It's not the ladies I want to do dark things to, it's scum like Lucien. No one would miss him.

Will this involve a chair too, Joshy?



Also, people discussing Nicki's situation again don't forget that this isn't just some normal debt situation where the most Nicki has to worry about is being on the streets; they got the loan from shady people and their lives are at risk. So, denying Nicki financial help isn't just teaching her some lesson about getting her shit together or whatever, it's basically signing her death note and waving buh bye. Even a hated coworker would have my concern in that situation, much less a friend.

 

[HissingPossum45]

Criminals they try to hide their crimes but they don't sit there dreaming of all the crimes they could get away with

This right here is false.

As someone who knew a rapist very closely. Let me tell you, he was CONSTANTLY thinking of who he could use and abuse next.

And if he got caught?

Probably a slap on the wrist, since our government is run by pedos and rapists as well.

The only thing that might have stopped him, was the fear of bullet to the dome.

It's because of him that I know realize why some criminals need to be hung from a tree.

Rapist generally aren't pragmatic or machiavellian.

It's stems more from the fact that rapists live in a society that doesn't punish their actions, so they're confused why others don't take what they want like they do.

 

[NeegNog]

This right here is false.

As someone who knew a rapist very closely. Let me tell you, he was CONSTANTLY thinking of who he could use and abuse next.

And if he got caught?

Probably a slap on the wrist, since our government is run by pedos and rapists as well.

The only thing that might have stopped him, was the fear of bullet to the dome.

It's because of him that I know realize why some criminals need to be hung from a tree.



It's stems more from the fact that rapists live in a society that doesn't punish their actions, so they're confused why others don't take what they want like they do.

i was shocked to know that 90% of it go unpunished , wich is crazy , but lets keep talk to the game

 

[yossa999]

The only thing that might have stopped him, was the fear of bullet to the dome.

It's because of him that I know realize why some criminals need to be hung from a tree.

Wrong game bro. Here the MC can't shove a baseball bat into Lucien.

 

[Ragnar]

Rapist generally aren't pragmatic or machiavellian. Criminals they try to hide their crimes but they don't sit there dreaming of all the crimes they could get away with if only they had money, they steal money to finance their crimes and intimidate victims or just murder them. Morality is something they abandon, it's why you lot winning about justification is so asinine. The character writing for guy was better before the retcon.

It depends on the type of criminal we're talking about. Many criminals are opportunists, like they see a bag or a phone on a bar table = grab n' run. That type don't last long before ending behind bars.
Then you have the cold motherfuckers. The fbi trapped BTK only because he was bored and sent them letters to troll them. He started killing in 1974 and they catched him in 2005.
Sexual predators vary too, there are opportunists and there are cold mofos. How many years was Harvey Weinstein getting free pussy for roles in his movies?

 

[NeegNog]

Wrong game bro. Here the MC can't shove a baseball bat into Lucien.

everything is possible , maybe lucien turns out to be gay and freaky enough to ask our guy for the favor himself lol

 

[Jack Townsend]

It depends on the type of criminal we're talking about. Many criminals are opportunists, like they see a bag or a phone on a bar table = grab n' run. That type don't last long before ending behind bars.
Then you have the cold motherfuckers. The fbi trapped BTK only because he was bored and sent them letters to troll them. He started killing in 1974 and they catched him in 2005.
Sexual predators vary too, there are opportunists and there are cold mofos. How many years was Harvey Weinstein getting free pussy for roles in his movies?

"Rape is about mastery, not sex."- Morgan Freeman

 

[armond]

"Rape is about mastery, not sex."- Morgan Freeman

I read that in his voice in my head before I saw the quote at the end, freaky

 

[HissingPossum45]

That type don't last long before ending behind bars.

For a lot of criminals, prison might as well be post secondary.

Because if they have the right connections, then they aren't being killed in jail, and they get a lot of time to network behind bars as well. Network with other convicts, the dirty lawyers/judges, and the recruiters for the underworld.

That's what lighter prison sentences bring, when the problem really should rectified with 50,000 volts instead.

Off-topic:

Are all the chapters really being reworked?

Because I imagine it'll be some time before we get all 10 chapters reworked.

 

[Ragnar]

For a lot of criminals, prison might as well be post secondary.

Because if they have the right connections, then they aren't being killed in jail, and they get a lot of time to network behind bars as well. Network with other convicts, the dirty lawyers/judges, and the recruiters for the underworld.

That's what lighter prison sentences bring, when the problem really should rectified with 50,000 volts instead.

Off-topic:

Are all the chapters really being reworked?

Because I imagine it'll be some time before we get all 10 chapters reworked.

No more reworks for now. Only code work to patch Chapter 1 remake with the rest.
That will take June prolly, then back to Ch11.