Pixillin'

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As much as I loved the remake of chapter one, I’m more excited about chapter eleven. I can't wait to see what dynamic Cassie brings to the story.

Also, I hope she has some sexy moments with Ashe. Maybe she finds out about the sexy role play we did?
TBH I'm looking forward to the full thing - with Chapter 1 attached. New dialogue, and IIRC Neon said about 250 new renders in the combined chapter 1-10. 11 isn't coming until July so I can't get too excited about that yet.
 
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TBH I'm looking forward to the full thing - with Chapter 1 attached. New dialogue, and IIRC Neon said about 250 new renders in the combined chapter 1-10. 11 isn't coming until July so I can't get too excited about that yet.
If I were a betting man, like Guy, I think Polymarket predictions would say a Chapter 11 release sometime early September. I hope I'm wrong though; lose it all, but also win it all. Who isn't craving new story progression (Cassie, Viola, Gabby and *pretty please* Brittani) and not reading people's bitching about Chapter 1 remake.
 
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Pixillin'

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If I were a betting man, like Guy, I think Polymarket predictions would say a Chapter 11 release sometime early September. I hope I'm wrong though; lose it all, but also win it all. Who isn't craving new story progression (Cassie, Viola, Gabby and *pretty please* Brittani) and not reading people's bitching about Chapter 1 remake.
Maybe so. We'll see. He's already working on 11 - has been for awhile apparently since we got a teaser already. July is his goal but stuff can happen, who knows.
 

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I didn’t play all the game,I stopped after mc went to jail.U was there a lesbo actions in the older version?
There was not much in the way of sapphic action because nearly all of the sex scenes focus on Guy with girls (and Mason) solo. What they do in their own time is up for speculation, but there hasn't been anything but teasing and/or naughty photos between the girls thus far.
 

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Even if the revamped chapter 1 didn't blow your skirt up, you must admit that this story has not fallen to their level in a single update.
For some people, many in fact, the remake fails narratively. And hence the criticism.
Because I understand that we can consider the Chapter 1 Remake an update, right?
If not, there are also people, far fewer, who think the game began to spiral downward after the dinner with Ashe chapter.
In my opinion, the game reached its peak in that chapter with Ashe, and then has had its ups and downs. I think the introduction of the drug dealer—I don't remember if his name was Damian—was a negative turning point in the plot. In my country, we call that "a morcilla" (blood sausage), something that appears unexpectedly in the plot and that hadn't been foreshadowed. As an anecdote, it's called that because blood sausages are often filled with unexpected and low-value things. Does that mean many people won't like that plot? No, of course not. But we're not talking about taste or enjoyment here, at least not for me, but rather a narrative structure error. That plot wasn't planned from the start, and it's very noticeable. It's something that appears, unexpectedly, when the plot had already been established, and it "hijacks" it. That becomes the focus from then on, which is a mistake and considerably lowers the narrative quality of the work. Is the game a narrative disaster from then on? No, of course not. It continues to offer good things, especially what continues the previously established plot. That's why I say it has ups and downs from that point on.

But anyway, what I'm saying is that you can't assume that other game users have to admit that the game hasn't failed to deliver narrative quality in some updates. That's assuming too much, and putting too much trust in your abilities to judge the narrative quality of a plot.
 

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Then explain the ch 1 rework? Checkmate forum acquaintance ;)
Wait, how does this work? I'm confused -- Ch.1 rework was about fleshing out Guy and Nicki. It didn't have anything to do with the drug dealer plot, no..? The changes in the remake don't really touch it.
 
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I'm not sure this is really the case, given some aspects of this plot are established as early as Ch.2-3, something which only becomes apparent in hindsight.
This reminds me of a friend of mine who insists there are "clues" that Luke Skywalker and Leia are siblings from the very first film in the saga (Episode IV, after the prequels were filmed).
But anyway, that's an example of how a bad script doesn't stop a work from having legions of fans (myself included). The thing is, if someone tells me the Star Wars script is excellent, I'm going to turn up my nose and tell them that not everything they like is good. Sometimes you feel like eating a McDonald's hamburger more than a dish of haute cuisine, but that doesn't mean a McDonald's hamburger is quality food.
 
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Wait, how does this work? I'm confused -- Ch.1 rework was about fleshing out Guy and Nicki. It didn't have anything to do with the drug dealer plot, no..? The changes in the remake don't really touch it.
If it was planned from the start a story rework would be unnecessary (y)
 

ffive

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If it was planned from the start a story rework would be unnecessary (y)
But the rework didn't touch any aspect of the drug dealing plot, so it doesn't indicate if it's been planned or not. You'd have a point if the rework has added something tied to the drug dealing thing specifically, but that's not the case here..?
 

armond

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But the rework didn't touch any aspect of the drug dealing plot, so it doesn't indicate if it's been planned or not. You'd have a point if the rework has added something tied to the drug dealing thing specifically, but that's not the case here..?
You didn't mention drug dealing in the original post I responded to, you're adjusting the goal post my friend:giggle:
 

ffive

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You didn't mention drug dealing in the original post I responded to, you're adjusting the goal post my friend:giggle:
My entire response was to this part of soldano's post:
I think the introduction of the drug dealer—I don't remember if his name was Damian—was a negative turning point in the plot. (...) That plot wasn't planned from the start, and it's very noticeable.
So no, this isn't moving goal posts, but i could've made it perhaps more obvious with a more complete quote. Sorry about that.
 
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Remake is only Ch 1 for now but I think when Chapter 11 comes out when the full remake is integrated to the main game we are gonna have to redo our saves if im not mistaken.
I think there is going to be a Ch 1-10 release. Ch 11 isn't coming until July but IIRC the new Ch 1-10 is done or almost and there is new dialogue and something like 250 new renders in 2-10 so you're probably want to start over anyway.

Edit: From Patreon

As far as the game, work continues here in the rendering mines, and I'm making steady progress. I've added 250ish renders over the last two weeks, and I'm nearing the end of the work I need to do for the stuff that goes between the new Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. There's some additional background for our hard-luck hero, a new ero scene, and some little appearances from Carolina and the Chen family.

As always, things end up taking me longer than I'd like, but I'm working as quickly as I can to get this stuff finished, so I can move onto rendering Chapter 11. I promise, I'm just as eager to get back to the present as everyone else is. I'm planning to hit the ground running on June 1st, so that's my self-imposed deadline, to stop fiddling with other stuff.
 
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Anyone know how difficult it is for this game to:
a) Alter some dialogue
b) Unlock all choices, regardless of light/dark points
 
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