Nvm...I just played the game and I don't like the direction it's taking immediately, yeah I'm into choices, but none of them represent what I would have done.
I'm a bit confused by how the game "had potential" but also literally the first chapter turned you off.
I have to say, a lot of people have this opinion, that they shouldn't be forced into into being romantic with Nicki. But, I see it as a flashpoint in the MC's life, for good or ill. I don't think the MC forms his charity or becomes the guy in the second chapter, without being with Nicki. As we see in the prologue, he basically sits around in his expensive condo buying toys and watching anime, until she shows back up in his life.
Also, hopefully you understand why I can't implement unlimited choices accounting for everyone's sensibilities. I try to provide as many options as I can, being a one-man artist, coder, and promoter. I didn't have experience doing any of these things six months ago.
Its definitely a scumbag route. A tad to detailed too, No way in hell I can fap to that. The line about the blonde looking up in the sky was givig me the feels. So horrific.
On a bright side, I admire that the dev doesnt try to hide what it is. No "be forceful" trash. The game outright says what it is. Makes it easier to skip for me. I love dark games tho, the grittiness is a major turn-on. The ultra vanilla games give a decent fap if they have decent enough graphics but the fakeness breaks the immersion.
Great game. The sexy black girl saying "You dont see a resemblance" automatically let me know this was competent writing that didnt need a translator or wasnt written by someone who didnt pass sophomore year of high school. That girl that her bf left her for is hotter tho, lets be honest. Dev should have made the black girl thicker.
Honestly, I feel it's worse when games try to gloss over horrible things, or treat it with such an elevated sense of drama that it becomes silly. The evil MC in FiN isn't a scheming mastermind, and the girl's never going to suddenly decide she likes it halfway through, or some nonsense like that. You nailed it - it's a scumbag route. He's an everyday sort of evil, who can wield money and influence to feed his own ego. But, we'll see how long he can keep this up for.
Gabby have 2 path curently?Ultra Evil and good,but nothing in between like Ash and Nikki?
I don't really think her bad route is "ultra evil." MC was pretty fair-handed with her, compared to how he may have treated Ashe and Nicki. My plan is to have her bad route diverge in the near future - the fact that the MC paid her off for a handy is a clue as to how he might control her. After all, she's a young woman from a family that doesn't have much money. She lives in an attic with a window that faces another building's brick wall. Her interests are ignored by her parents. A rich, older guy who can give her a life of luxury, in exchange for favors, could be attractive to a young woman like that.
This was a pretty great update. I liked the new characters more than I thought I would and it is interesting that no matter how you decided to handle Nikki her boyfriend ultimately exploited her anyway. I kinda dig her new look although I don't know if the tats are permanent. She didn't seem to have any on her model in the banner, but that might be just an oversight. I kinda hope they are because they look good on her. Somehow I think she didn't necessarily want them, though. I am kinda puzzled by folks who just want to kick her out in the street, though. Even in my evil bastard playthrough the MC would probably be rubbing his hands together in glee, trying to figure out how to turn this to his advantage.
As to the new characters Ashe is a treasure. I think the fact that she is kinda sexually unsatisfied with the nice MC unless he gets rough with her is a great touch. That opens up some interesting possibilities for corruption in the other route, which is a little abrupt. It is almost as good as the nice character being able to open up Gabby sexually by being just a little bit pushy at the end of their conversation. Even though she will be crying afterward they will be tears of happiness because you have been nice to her as well as shown her that she can enjoy sex. You actually push her farther than in the cruel route when she just does some handiwork and dirty talk. In any case, I hope that she doesn't mind that the thirst for her mom is stronger.
The variety of responses from the characters makes them feel unique. They don't all have the same corruption path or findom path. You actually have to consider when to be nice and when to tighten your grip. I'm sure that the next chapter will explore these relationships in greater detail but it is a pretty good start so far.
Thanks so much! Nicki does have some tats in the banner, but she's turned in such a way they're not entirely visible. They'll be permanent. I think they make her look spunky.
And yeah, Ashe was a surprise to me. Originally she was just going to be in a single scene as an unnamed bimbo the MC is sleeping with, to show he's become a bit of a playboy. But once I started writing for her, she kind of came alive. The reluctant path where she drops all the "um's" and "like's" from her speech crystallized her in my mind. She's a character that fits every ditzy blonde cliche, but it's 90% because she's nervous and unsure of herself. As soon as she realizes what the MC wants, the anxiety is gone. She's been objectified by men her entire life, and he's just one more that wants to fuck her, and if that's what it takes to keep her job? Fine, whatever. Made me both very sad for her, and very happy to write that good morning scene for her with the MC.
Gabby's still my fave, though.
You did too well. She reminds me of MY sisters. I've played plenty of incest games, but they tend to be so unconvincing the immersion is just not there. Gabby is just too adorable, plus I love how you made getting to know her a real thing. Another writer would have just made it, oh this is the rude girl feel free to RAPE HER.
This is a good game. Please keep it up.
Thank you! I wanted to consciously steer away from the usual tropes you get with younger women in these games. Just because she's young, that doesn't mean she's stupid, naive, or saccharine sweet. She's allowed to lash out and get frustrated in a moment of grief.
I hope that players will only grow more invested in these characters as their stories unfurl.
Wow, just wow. So I just finished playing the game, and it was really disturbing. Seems like the dev is real salty about a gold digger he wanted something serious with or some shit like that, but lost her to a dickhead. Gotta say, the fact that this game is on Patreon is very concerning and kinda funny, considering they almost banned even SCAMcstor for less.
Man, no offense, I know this is just fiction and we are all perverts who have our own preferences in perverted shit, but damn bruh, you must have a real high opinion of women to make a game like this. Just sayin'. I mean, there's a game called
Bitch Squad where I'd wholeheartedly agree with all this misogynistic bullshit and humiliation coz those bitches deserve it, but for a girl who's dumb enough to pay her guy's debts and never wronged the MC, that's just too much. Why blame the woman for not wanting to date him when he never expressed any romantic interest in her ??
Wow, this VN sure dwell into to darker side of fantasies and misogeny, I'm a scumbag so well done I say. Question is why even bother with some "Romance Good Guy Route" when clearly not that kind of game. Does this apeal to anyone into sleazy romance? if not then why bother, all you'll end up is a bunch people complaining about all the fictional abuse they are not into or have a real hard time accepting.
I'll address both of these - I love women, romance, and cuddly warm fuzzies. The disclaimer at the top of the game about separating fantasy from reality, and the importance of consent and boundaries, isn't just some boilerplate bullshit I put there so I could dust my hands off and absolve myself of anyone taking the game the wrong way. I mean that stuff, and I want everyone to know I mean it.
I disagree about what the game fundamentally is, I suppose. I'm reminded of this anecdote about infamous porn star/producer, Rocco Siffredi. Now, he's famous for rough porn, degradation, etc. Supposedly he had a shoot scheduled with a bunch of Russian girls and Russian guys. So, he calls action on a scene, and these guys just start laying into these girls. Punching them in the stomach, shoving their fingers in their throats, the whole nine. Just heinous, violent shit.
Rocco calls cut and asks what the fuck they're doing, and the guys are like, "This is what you do! This is what's in your movies." And from this, Rocco understands he's failed. He explains to the guys that his movies are not about violence, they're about a push and pull, a give and take. Bringing someone low, and then nurturing them back up again. That's how I see my game. The sour can't exist without the sweet.
But uh, all that said, I think Rocco is kind of a scumbag who preys on poor women from poor countries, whose bet chance of making money is to let a leathery old guy sodomize them for an hour. This is also why I enjoy VNs and illustrated porn. It's the possibility of guilt-free extreme content, because at the end of the day, nobody is actually going home feeling used and beaten down. Nobody's blowing Harvey Weinstein in a hotel room for a job. It's all pixels and make-believe.
That's a very good game, good writing and choices.
I would just say that sometimes it would be nice to have a middle solution between beeing a psychopath or a saint.
For exemple during the first meeting with Niki, it was between beeing a cruel asshole or an idiot lover.
I would have prefered a middle solution where you just refuse to help her after learning that she was just sent by her boyfriend to take advantage of you.
But you could just fall in love like a stupid guy who just believe anything just because he thinks with his dick or a psychopath who just rape her or handle her like a cheap whore.
That was something that almost made me give up on this game, none of those options satisfied me. Fortunately later it was much better with the other girls and i loved how the story was written.
But i don't know how the dev will handle those options in the future because the story could easily get very complicated if you want to take all combinations in account.
Or maybe the story of each girl will be handeled separately and they will not meet all together.
Recently many games which offered many choices are in trouble and end up beeing a mess or are forced to choose a canon story or force certain charaters on the player.
I'll be honest, even on the good route, I don't think the MC is a saint. He's kind of a grumpy curmudgeon, who's terminally horny. And he's still not above slapping a girl in bed (after asking or being asked to) and he can be a bit rude about pushing boundaries.
The growing choices will naturally take more time as they grow more complex, but so far I'm happy with how I'm handling it. I'd previously written a scene that I had to toss out, involving Gabby interacting with Cassie, and it wasn't too onerous to code. Hopefully I can continue to defy expectations.
No man, I see tattoos I automatically discriminate. 
