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Lightaces

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Aug 3, 2018
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Quick patch to add save naming - makes it easier to keep track of paths.

Just extract to main folder (where .exe is) and overwrite if prompted.
The save game naming patch is causing an error when I start the new version of the game. Instead of the main menu screen, I get an error message. If I hit ignore, it starts a new game, and it is easy enough to get to the loading screen, so it's not a particularly critical error, but it is an aesthetic annoyance.
 
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HentaiKami

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I didn't make it very far into this one, but I wanted to ask why this game has such a high rating? Does the quality just drastically improve at some point? The early sections were really not engaging me at all. I read through the reviews and I just don't understand the disconnect between what I read and what I was playing. Thanks in advance.
Three words, Gabby and Ashe :love:
 

PHIL101-YYouPPHard

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You know, I get that part of the point of this game is to be able to explore your deepest, darkest fantasies, but I'm glad you can also enjoy the game if your kink is The Good Guy™ too.
Subjective I know, but personally, it seems clearer and clearer to me as I play that the point of this game is the opposite; to watch wounded characters heal, to basically have Satan (aka Neon :ROFLMAO: sorry buddy ;)) tempt you with terrible things, or just simply mean things, and to say 'back to the pit with you!' as you proudly select the most Joshy wholesome choices. Ok, ok, maybe you pick the darkest stuff to satisfy a curiosity or a full-on kink in a playthrough, but you also have to watch everything around MC crumble as you do it. I feel like the thing that really keeps you coming back is the catharsis of watching people help each other and grow deep, meaningful relationships; actually, that catharsis is even more impactful once you see just how bad things could be and is why I try to play dark route before nicer routes. Feels like a warm blanket :giggle:

But yeah, no other game represents both extremes of humanity so well, imo. It's honestly sad that some people would look at a game like this and judge it instantly because of some of the choices and scenes, completely ignoring all the other beautiful stuff that is served well by its complimentary opposites.
 

Dessolos

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Jul 25, 2017
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Three words, Gabby and Ashe :love:
I think Gabby is the only one I don't want to do anything lewd with but she is a good character for sure. Probably 2nd best to me or tied with Ashe not sure. Tho I have a feeling once Penny gets more character updates she might be up there for me as well. Tho really there is something to like about all the girls here for me they don't feel super simple or generic like other LI I wanted to like more in other AVN games, at least to me.
I feel like the thing that really keeps you coming back is the catharsis of watching people help each other and grow deep, meaningful relationships; actually, that catharsis is even more impactful once you see just how bad things could be and is why I try to play dark route before nicer routes. Feels like a warm blanket :giggle:
I didn't even know about the true dark stuff my first time since I didn't know about said patch. But after exploring it it's a interesting way to playthrough once. I don't know if id do it first tho cause I think the minute a new update comes I would want to explore more of the Nicki romance. Tho id be lying if I didn't say it would be tempting to try it first just see what else crumbles just to end on a positive note.
 

HentaiKami

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I think Gabby is the only one I don't want to do anything lewd with but she is a good character for sure. Probably 2nd best to me or tied with Ashe not sure. Tho I have a feeling once Penny gets more character updates she might be up there for me as well. Tho really there is something to like about all the girls here for me they don't feel super simple or generic like other LI I wanted to like more in other AVN games, at least to me.
I just find Gabby so adorable, with right combination of feistyness when she knows what she wants, so ends up being quite the minx for me. She and Ashe basically have the right combination of adorableness, sexyness and beauty. :love:
 

Dessolos

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I just find Gabby so adorable, with right combination of feistyness when she knows what she wants, so ends up being quite the minx for me. She and Ashe basically have the right combination of adorableness, sexyness and beauty. :love:
I agree with you on that tho even so id only be friends with Gabby. Funny enough the LI I'm attracted to most is the one I didnt think was hot at first since im not into short hair. that would be Nicki. I just love when a LI is playful and can brings a wholesome experience to the table tho there is other reason I like her but doubt you want to see a wall of text.
 

Karana

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Feb 8, 2017
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Hot damn, how did I miss this? Does this phone call happen in the prologue? I've done the Nice way, the 'pay you for sex' way, and the Assault way and I don't recall that. Is this later, after she's escaped from the porno shoot?
The first night she visits you.

Offer to pay for sex > Be nice > Tell her to take her clothes off > Promise > Compliment > Flatter > Yes, you want to touch > Taunt her about her boyfriend

You have to ride line of being nice to her or she gets pissed off and the dialogue chain drops to the angry blowjob/assault choice.
 

The unseen

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Hey, quick question. Are Vanilla version and the normal one the same? If, each one is 0.4, so why the vanilla version is bigger in terms of size of the game?
 

Dessolos

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Hey, quick question. Are Vanilla version and the normal one the same? If, each one is 0.4, so why the vanilla version is bigger in terms of size of the game?
Only difference I noticed is normal version requires a patch for the true dark path options and cant be applies to vanilla. Tho both versions have a light dark path it seems to me I like to call this the dick path where you're just a dick .I believe you can still get some of the bad outcomes with just being a dick just probably not to the extreme like if you were on the dark path but im not 100% sure on that.
 

Ottoeight

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Hey, quick question. Are Vanilla version and the normal one the same? If, each one is 0.4, so why the vanilla version is bigger in terms of size of the game?
Huh?

Zipped "Vanilla" version (Friends Indeed) is 2,19 Gb. Zipped "Normal" version (Friends in Need) is 2,43 Gb.
 

Impurity2937

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I just finished v0.4.

Biggest surprise of the year for me really. I expected totally nothing from this one, I was very skeptical seeing one guy and thirteen girls as a game banner but yeah, don't judge the book by its cover.

If I would have to comment that with one sentence it would be like it is one of the most real and natural AVN out there. For the entire game not even for a second I felt that it is just some another forced written fake shit story only to cover background for sex scenes. I'm deeply impressed by the level of dialogues and characters. Each of them is SO UNIQUE that I can really feel them, the emotions there are so true...

Before I started, I saw there is patch to get rid of Nicki which I didn't understand back then but now... WTF is wrong with you people? How can you get rid of the only friend you got who is loyal to you and tries to seek for your help when being hopeless even after you raped her? How deep in shit she is to ask for your help even after all what happen and you just want to throw her out? Damn. And NeonGhosts wow, the rapes in this games are really sick... I will not say that they feel real because I have no idea although they kinda seems like they could.

Characters... Wow, Ashe, her parents, Carolina with her daughter, Gabby being just a teenager, Madison, even Brittani is not just a dumb bimbo but quite interesting character. All these and the ones I didn't mention made me feel like it is not a game at all but a really great real life story with real characters. It takes a lot of skill and talent to be able to write story, narration, dialogues and characters that good, it is like an interactive book, AMAZING job.

I could just write a lot more how awesome that one is but I guess I made my point. Looking forward for the next updates!

ps. I hate you NeonGhosts for how perfect LI you made Ashe. I guess I would prefer Caroline but there is absolutely not a single thing I could blame Ashe for to get rid of her.
 

Dessolos

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Jul 25, 2017
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I just finished v0.4.

Biggest surprise of the year for me really. I expected totally nothing from this one, I was very skeptical seeing one guy and thirteen girls as a game banner but yeah, don't judge the book by its cover.

If I would have to comment that with one sentence it would be like it is one of the most real and natural AVN out there. For the entire game not even for a second I felt that it is just some another forced written fake shit story only to cover background for sex scenes. I'm deeply impressed by the level of dialogues and characters. Each of them is SO UNIQUE that I can really feel them, the emotions there are so true...

Before I started, I saw there is patch to get rid of Nicki which I didn't understand back then but now... WTF is wrong with you people? How can you get rid of the only friend you got who is loyal to you and tries to seek for your help when being hopeless even after you raped her? How deep in shit she is to ask for your help even after all what happen and you just want to throw her out? Damn. And NeonGhosts wow, the rapes in this games are really sick... I will not say that they feel real because I have no idea although they kinda seems like they could.

Characters... Wow, Ashe, her parents, Carolina with her daughter, Gabby being just a teenager, Madison, even Brittani is not just a dumb bimbo but quite interesting character. All these and the ones I didn't mention made me feel like it is not a game at all but a really great real life story with real characters. It takes a lot of skill and talent to be able to write story, narration, dialogues and characters that good, it is like an interactive book, AMAZING job.

I could just write a lot more how awesome that one is but I guess I made my point. Looking forward for the next updates!

ps. I hate you NeonGhosts for how perfect LI you made Ashe. I guess I would prefer Caroline but there is absolutely not a single thing I could blame Ashe for to get rid of her.
I could not agree more the characters is what makes this game so good not the overall plot I heard that Nicki removal mod was a joke / troll not sure if that is true or not but i refuse to try it out as I'm on Team Nicki she is easily the best character for me.
 

Impurity2937

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I could not agree more the characters is what makes this game so good not the overall plot I heard that Nicki removal mod was a joke / troll not sure if that is true or not but i refuse to try it out as I'm on Team Nicki she is easily the best character for me.
It is so hard to write good characters, it is even harder to write great dialogues for them but it is almost impossible for 99% of the games here to put it all together to make you feel it is not forced. That is the way you can recognize who is really good at it (making VNs) and who is not, you just need to have "that thing". Talent, tons of empathy to actually be able to identify as character? You call it but yeah, not an easy task for sure.

Each character has it's own approach for example, god how many games are out there that would allow you to just put some cheap lines to Caroline and make her let you fuck? Not here, she is mother above all and you can feel it here, make Maya like you is the way to go. Ashe? MC's first though is "bimbo" and after a while you see how complex and smart she actually is. Meeting her parents made me flashbacks lol, I guess I'm not the only one here. Madison didn't hop on MC's dick when she could, she is loyal to her husband and you can see that from the start, not even a single hint that she would do anything with you. Gabby and her teenage mind, Brittani similar to Ashe and actually more complex and way smarter that she looks like, still a mysterious Pepper, Wren, damn even Lisa feels like there is something more in her character than just silly sugar daddy's girl.

The thing is NeonGhosts did not go with the obvious and repeatable path of creating AVN characters (one jester male friend and couple girls with one/two obvious traits like sweet/silly, rebellious, dumb, the smartest etc...) but made them more real-like, more complex. Although, thinking about that now, I say it with every AVN, it would be great to see some good written male friends/characters to maybe even compete with them for the girl we both want.
 

Ulrich37

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Apr 1, 2018
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The first night she visits you.

Offer to pay for sex > Be nice > Tell her to take her clothes off > Promise > Compliment > Flatter > Yes, you want to touch > Taunt her about her boyfriend

You have to ride line of being nice to her or she gets pissed off and the dialogue chain drops to the angry blowjob/assault choice.
I'll have to play it, just to see the dialog. It doesn't invalidate my idea, but it would be the closest Nicki gets to being 100 percent honest about why she's there. Thanks!
 
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Ulrich37

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Apr 1, 2018
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I didn't make it very far into this one, but I wanted to ask why this game has such a high rating? Does the quality just drastically improve at some point? The early sections were really not engaging me at all. I read through the reviews and I just don't understand the disconnect between what I read and what I was playing. Thanks in advance.
If you enjoy games where the MC has a lot of power over a number of women, this hits the mark strongly. It's not really a Harem game, so much as he gets a shot at almost every woman he meets. Also, there is a patch that allows for significantly darker content. If you like dark content, that's a must.
 

Karana

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Feb 8, 2017
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I'll have to play it, just to see the dialog. It doesn't invalidate my idea, but it would be the closest Nicki gets to being 100 percent honest about why she's there. Thanks!
I wouldn't say she's 100% honest about it. She still tries to frame it around Brent but there's a very overt disparity between Brent's plan and Nicki's actions.
 

U330661

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+10 points for using the term 'doff' in the context it is appropriate for. (Most people don't use it, sadly.)
 
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