I'm on dark path with Brit and haven't seen anything beyond the encounter in the store. Have I missed something?
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It would be one thing for her to go away at the end of the game as a bad end, but including themes and fetishes in a porn game and then punishing the player for taking them by cutting the game in half is just stupid.
- Apr 7, 2020
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Really guys... WTF?????? This was the release???? Sorry to be a bitch NeonGhost but according to paths (and i've played MR nice, let's now talk of dark path consequencies), this was like 30 minutes of nothing.
This chapter mad me scream 'thanks Lord i'm not a supporter' ...
It's a great game, easely my favored here. Let's not lose too much focus
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This chapter mad me scream 'thanks Lord i'm not a supporter' ...
It's a great game, easely my favored here. Let's not lose too much focus
He did say this would be a small update, though I feel bad for anyone who paid $15 for this.Really guys... WTF?????? This was the release???? Sorry to be a bitch NeonGhost but according to paths (and i've played MR nice, let's now talk of dark path consequencies), this was like 30 minutes of nothing.
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This chapter mad me scream 'thanks Lord i'm not a supporter' ...
It's a great game, easely my favored here. Let's not lose too much focus
- Jan 10, 2018
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Who says they may not come back later due to another bad decision they made or can take dark path on a lot of decisions as long as not scare them away too much too early. Development of the game over time will answer that, but that in a game where almost every decision has consequences, going full ugly has consequences as well makes sense. It would be more weird if it did not
Didn't read all posts before, but basically it seems like same as with all good games who start dark and are able to build up a fan base, dev all all of sudden becomes a pussy and tries to play it safe. To be fair maybe patreon indeed got up his ass, so I am not sure what is really going on there.
This game was designed from the very start for MC to behave like an absolute jerk and abuse his power. Anything but dark route for this game is completely replacable by all the other junk at this site.
edit: haha, all the romance boys facepalming me get a girlfriend, losers
This game was designed from the very start for MC to behave like an absolute jerk and abuse his power. Anything but dark route for this game is completely replacable by all the other junk at this site.
edit: haha, all the romance boys facepalming me
get a girlfriend, losers
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Quick FYI to touch on some comments I saw.
Not Enough Sex: No, there's not a ton of sex content in this one. Nicki has two alignment-dependent scenes, Ashe has a short one, Brittani has some teasing, and Pepper has some webcam content. I said this a few times over the last month, and over on my pages, but the original plan was for this to be part of a larger chapter, which would have included three more sex scenes at various points on the light/dark axis, and some big story developments for Gabby. But, I got in the weeds with the update, and would have needed to push the release date back by at least a month, and likely more. Which leads me to my next point..
Too Short: See my comment about getting in the weeds. Basically, my decision to end the last chapter with the player in several very different circumstances (Sleeping alone, sleeping with Nicki, sleeping with Ashe, sleeping with Risa..) along with several other modifiers (Did you know Pepper is a camgirl? Did you know Nicki left? Was Ashe happy with you when she slept over? Is Carolina and Maya happy with you?) just wound up being more work than anticipated. So, an update with almost 900 renders can be played through one time, and you may only see 450 of those.
Do I Need to Wait for the Next Two Official Releases? Not really. The new stuff will come after the events of 0.55, and it's just my attempt to put a nicer bow on the end of the chapter. I'll release that stuff as a patch for people who don't want to re-download the whole update.
Dubya-tee-eff, No More Dark Content? Not really.. Again, this has been a converstion before. I was warning of this even before the last update, and everyone was saying it'd be the death of the game and blah blah blah.. Then the Ashe chapter came out, and I think people realized the truth was more nuanced. My goal has never been to force people into the box of being a good guy. Just that there be realistic consequences for being a bad guy. Consequences =/= punishment, by the way. Learning that Brittani's mom is basically willing to sell her to you is a consequence of being a bad guy, feeding into the dark path. But, so is driving off Nicki, and dealing with the repercussions that come with that. I just want to explore what happens to a Guy who's basically constantly lashing out at the people around him. While he may drive a lot of people away, that doesn't mean everyone will be in a position to leave immediately, and it doesn't mean he might not attract other like-minded people.
Also, to be perfectly blunt, it's never been my intention to write pure misery porn. I've played games that went that route, and I don't think there's any real meat on that bone. I'm trying to make like.. Breaking Bad, not A Serbian Film.
Also, also? Even the vanilla paths for characters will get trimmed a bit, just based on what the story needs. Like, Nicki's around all the time because she's your assistant. How much do we really need to see a Carolina who's been relegated to a friend path? Not much, I'd reckon.
Now, I also think it's worth noting that Not Enough Sex/Too Short are the direct results of me trying to address other critiques I'd previously gotten. People complained that the story wasn't moving fast enough. Okay, now we have scenes advancing the story of Pepper's bruises, your relationship with Nicki, your relationship with Ashe, Brittani's relationship with her mom, the future of your collaboration with Brittani, another glimpse at a place MC's invested in, a look at the downside of fame with being stalked by internet oddballs, a look at Alex's past, the idea that MC's going to learn some self-defense, Maya and Carolina's relationship with MC being dependent on how MC's treated Nicki, the photo mystery having another clue put into place, and more stuff besides. Story movement tends to come at the expense of long sex scenes.
People also dinged me for only presenting the 'illusion of choice.' Well, now the game radically diverges based on what you chose last chapter. But again, that does come at the expense of having one long, mostly linear update.
I'm not putting the blame on people who commented asking for more story/more choices, by the way. Ultimately, I'm the one who made the thing, for good or ill. But, sometimes I like to take these things as a challenge, and use them as inspiration to try new things. It's not always successful!
If I had put this update out as I envisioned it, with sex content for Risa and Mason, and double the renders/story stuff, I feel a lot of these complaints would be moot. But, I've only got so many hours in a day, which I can only devote a few of to game development. So, I made the best thing I could with the time alloted to me, and got it into my paying supporters' hands, because I feel like I owe it to them. I've always said I don't want to be a dev who dithers around for a year or more and then puts out a single update.
Not Enough Sex: No, there's not a ton of sex content in this one. Nicki has two alignment-dependent scenes, Ashe has a short one, Brittani has some teasing, and Pepper has some webcam content. I said this a few times over the last month, and over on my pages, but the original plan was for this to be part of a larger chapter, which would have included three more sex scenes at various points on the light/dark axis, and some big story developments for Gabby. But, I got in the weeds with the update, and would have needed to push the release date back by at least a month, and likely more. Which leads me to my next point..
Too Short: See my comment about getting in the weeds. Basically, my decision to end the last chapter with the player in several very different circumstances (Sleeping alone, sleeping with Nicki, sleeping with Ashe, sleeping with Risa..) along with several other modifiers (Did you know Pepper is a camgirl? Did you know Nicki left? Was Ashe happy with you when she slept over? Is Carolina and Maya happy with you?) just wound up being more work than anticipated. So, an update with almost 900 renders can be played through one time, and you may only see 450 of those.
Do I Need to Wait for the Next Two Official Releases? Not really. The new stuff will come after the events of 0.55, and it's just my attempt to put a nicer bow on the end of the chapter. I'll release that stuff as a patch for people who don't want to re-download the whole update.
Dubya-tee-eff, No More Dark Content? Not really.. Again, this has been a converstion before. I was warning of this even before the last update, and everyone was saying it'd be the death of the game and blah blah blah.. Then the Ashe chapter came out, and I think people realized the truth was more nuanced. My goal has never been to force people into the box of being a good guy. Just that there be realistic consequences for being a bad guy. Consequences =/= punishment, by the way. Learning that Brittani's mom is basically willing to sell her to you is a consequence of being a bad guy, feeding into the dark path. But, so is driving off Nicki, and dealing with the repercussions that come with that. I just want to explore what happens to a Guy who's basically constantly lashing out at the people around him. While he may drive a lot of people away, that doesn't mean everyone will be in a position to leave immediately, and it doesn't mean he might not attract other like-minded people.
Also, to be perfectly blunt, it's never been my intention to write pure misery porn. I've played games that went that route, and I don't think there's any real meat on that bone. I'm trying to make like.. Breaking Bad, not A Serbian Film.
Also, also? Even the vanilla paths for characters will get trimmed a bit, just based on what the story needs. Like, Nicki's around all the time because she's your assistant. How much do we really need to see a Carolina who's been relegated to a friend path? Not much, I'd reckon.
Now, I also think it's worth noting that Not Enough Sex/Too Short are the direct results of me trying to address other critiques I'd previously gotten. People complained that the story wasn't moving fast enough. Okay, now we have scenes advancing the story of Pepper's bruises, your relationship with Nicki, your relationship with Ashe, Brittani's relationship with her mom, the future of your collaboration with Brittani, another glimpse at a place MC's invested in, a look at the downside of fame with being stalked by internet oddballs, a look at Alex's past, the idea that MC's going to learn some self-defense, Maya and Carolina's relationship with MC being dependent on how MC's treated Nicki, the photo mystery having another clue put into place, and more stuff besides. Story movement tends to come at the expense of long sex scenes.
People also dinged me for only presenting the 'illusion of choice.' Well, now the game radically diverges based on what you chose last chapter. But again, that does come at the expense of having one long, mostly linear update.
I'm not putting the blame on people who commented asking for more story/more choices, by the way. Ultimately, I'm the one who made the thing, for good or ill. But, sometimes I like to take these things as a challenge, and use them as inspiration to try new things. It's not always successful!
If I had put this update out as I envisioned it, with sex content for Risa and Mason, and double the renders/story stuff, I feel a lot of these complaints would be moot. But, I've only got so many hours in a day, which I can only devote a few of to game development. So, I made the best thing I could with the time alloted to me, and got it into my paying supporters' hands, because I feel like I owe it to them. I've always said I don't want to be a dev who dithers around for a year or more and then puts out a single update.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Make the game you want, bro. You can't please everyone all the time. So, just please yourself... That sounds nasty. But hopefully you get what I'm saying.
But I do have a question. Is the Gabby and Masons upcoming scenes still coming after the first of the year? I've skipped a couple updates already as I'm not on anyone else's paths.
- Dec 5, 2017
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better then dick stuck in the toaster.
- Mar 20, 2019
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Yup, next update picks up with Risa and MC's errand, then onto Mason's glasses, then finally taking Gabby and Madison to go bail out Mr. Barron.Make the game you want, bro. You can't please everyone all the time. So, just please yourself... That sounds nasty. But hopefully you get what I'm saying.
But I do have a question. Is the Gabby and Masons upcoming scenes still coming after the first of the year? I've skipped a couple updates already as I'm not on anyone else's paths.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Just do your thing buddy, I think you are doing great with your update.
So, essentially, the game gets shorter and shorter for following the dark part, well, there goes the appeal. Do your thing though, I just hope you think it through.
Look, I’ll just say one thing: you’re making a porn game. It’s a vehicle for porn. If your writing is getting in the way of the porn, it’s bad writing for the work it’s a part of.
Personally I have zero interest in the game going forward if the main girl is out of the picture unless I choose options I don’t care about. I don’t care if some side character gets more content on the darker themes, I’m not here for the padding.
I’m not complaining or trying to get you to do anything, for me personally the game might as well have been abandoned.
Personally I have zero interest in the game going forward if the main girl is out of the picture unless I choose options I don’t care about. I don’t care if some side character gets more content on the darker themes, I’m not here for the padding.
I’m not complaining or trying to get you to do anything, for me personally the game might as well have been abandoned.
I dunno if you guys just have 1 save or something but there's way more routes than the hardcore dark route and the love route.
- Jul 17, 2021
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Neon never said he's makin a porn game. He's makin an Adult Visual Novel with porn elements. Story first, lewds second.
- Dec 4, 2022
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Actually, it's an adult visual novel first and foremost. It has sex in it and other adult elements, but at the end of the day it's still a novel. There are many differing styles of these as well, some more sex focused and fast paced. Others more story-driven and/or slow-burn. This definitely falls into the more story focused side of things, with the sex and lewd scenes being an element that adds another layer to the story, but doesn't take the forefront.
Meanwhile, there are other novels/games where sex is in the forefront, it IS the focus of those games. It sounds like those games/novels might be more your speed. I say this because to me it seems like you're looking for porn instead of a story or even a game. This makes me wonder why you don't just go watch porn at that point though, or just go download games/novels and use a gallery un-locker, there's your porn.
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